Briefly: The Return of Carlos Carrasco
In all likelihood, we'll be watching Carlos Carrasco pitch in Cleveland sometime soon and, to his credit, he appears ready to do so. Since June, Carlos has been striking out well over 20% of the batters he faces while also maintaining a groundball percentage right around 50%. This is excellent work, obviously. His ERA has bounced around a bit but for the most part he's been solidly good and flashed his "top prospect" card often enough to keep us intrigued. He's flashed it his last two starts, for instance, going 13.0 IP, giving up only 2 runs (1 earned), and striking out 14 while walking none. This all follows his return from a foremarm strain, suffered in a game in which he'd already struck out 5 over 3.1 IP and during which his stuff drew rave reviews.
Carrasco has really been excellent most of the year but his numbers have taken a significant hit because of his May, when he scuffled, posting a 5.33 ERA. CarCar is still in his age-23 season; compare that to Tomlin (25), Talbot (26), Huff (25), Laffey (25), and Masterson (25). Carrasco already carries the aura of a disappointment but that's only because he failed to reach his own lofty projections after he combined a great deal of raw stuff with some luck to get to AAA and appear to dominate the league at just 21 years old. My feeling is that his rapid advancement and coinciding decline in dominance contributed to him losing a great deal of his sheen while other players with more interrupted development paths, like De La Cruz or Hagadone for instance, maintained some allure. Despite this being KDLC's age-21 season and Carlos' age-23, only 17 months separate the two. Hagadone is older than Carlos, by about 14 months. If Carrasco's press agent had had the foresight to ask the young pitcher to wrench his elbow out of socket in 2007, would we be more taken with his current results now?
Carrasco is still a very interesting prospect, a truly young player that appears at the top of his game, getting ready to come to Cleveland for the second time. So, I'm going to try to enjoy him in that context, an admittedly simpler one that doesn't insist I point out that Carrasco has not totally dominated AAA for an extended period of time or that he seemed comically overwhelmed in the majors last year, like Lucille Ball in a chocolate factory.
I'm taking this approach for two reasons-the first is that I think Carrasco was plain rushed, despite receiving relatively positive results up the ladder; I'm hopeful that last season's disastorous MLB debut was the necessary wake-up call, alerting him to the fact that he needed to learn some more before he could make the big jump. Carlos was long knocked for "make-up", for getting upset when he got in trouble, losing focus and losing games. Last night, for what it's worth, he avoided this expertly:
Scranton/WB Top 2nd
- Juan Miranda singles on a line drive to right fielder Jose Constanza.
- Jorge Vazquez reaches on fielding error by third baseman Jared Goedert. Juan Miranda to 3rd.
- Colin Curtis out on a sacrifice fly to left fielder Drew Sutton. Juan Miranda scores.
- Brandon Laird strikes out swinging.
- Greg Golson strikes out swinging.
After Goedert, he of the nose-diving OPS, let him down, Carrasco buckled down and took care of business and, after that inning, the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankees never really threatened again. Now, this isn't hard evidence of some great developmental jump but it's still nice to see.
The second reason I'm choosing this context is because if we're going to have a new frontline starter anytime soon, it will probably be Carrasco; I want to be sucked into the fable of the hard thrower, the mythology of stuff, at least for a little while. I'm tired of praising our pitchers for being aggressive or strike-throwing or crafty or short. Carrasco and Carmona can sit off the side with Chris Perez and talk about their arms as gifts from god not implements with which they hope to reach arbitration.
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Goldstein just posted his prospect rundown of the day and noted CarCar:
Carlos Carrasco, RHP, Indians (Triple-A Columbus): 7 IP, 5 H, 1 R (0 ER), 0 BB, 6 K
Once the top prospect in the Phillies system, Carrasco has certainly stalled a bit since getting to the upper levels, but at 23, he’s not exactly an old man whose window of opportunity has closed, and his stuff hasn’t regressed in any way. Always inconsistent, Carrasco has been throwing more strikes of late and the results are clear with a 1.64 ERA since the All-Star break. He should be in line for a September call up and a long look next spring.
Thanks for this. I hadn’t been following CarCar as closely as I should have been. Between you and Goldstein I’m convinced that CarCar’s performance post-ASB is finally pushing the Indians to give him a shot in Cleveland, and him pushing the Indians with good numbers is certainly far better than the Tribe having to overlook mediocre performance in pulling him up to Cleveland before his time. I look forward to seeing how he does this fall and next spring; I hope he pitches well enough to justify a rotation spot in 2011.
I think he should be given every opportunity to be in our rotation.
"I spoil a lot of people with my play." -Lebron James
Last paragraph is truly awesome and I support 100 percent. No offense to the Huffs of the world, I’m just tired of them.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
Also known as the cliff lees of the world.
by Brick. on Aug 18, 2010 1:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Let’s not comcare Huff to Lee. I’m pretty sure that Lee’s never send a Twitter message in his life. I’m also pretty sure that Huff’s never tried to dislocate the team captain’s head from his torso either.
Resident LGT results-oriented boob.
So now you’re overstating your case. Cliff never said he couldn’t read, only that he chooses not to.
Resident LGT results-oriented boob.
by mauichuck on Aug 18, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good piece, thanks. I think you are hitting on something with the scouterazzi that there seems to be an inconsistency applied. The fact that Hagadone is a good deal older Carrasco is an interesting dose of perspective.
"I spoil a lot of people with my play." -Lebron James
Ranking Hagadone over CC is silly of course, but scouts just love Hagadone’s arm, plain and simple. On pure stuff, it’s him or Knapp, no?
And this is the exact reason you can’t declare trades a win or a loss right away. If is if.
by Brick. on Aug 18, 2010 1:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Now, this isn’t hard evidence of some great developmental jump but it’s still nice to see.
It sure is, especially with several of the most prominent starters in the pipeline sidelined (Rondon) or regressing (de la Cruz). I’d say we need at least two out of Carrasco, White, and Pomeranz to succeed if we’re going field a competitive team in 2012.
by ken from alexandria on Aug 18, 2010 2:20 PM EDT reply actions
And on top of everything else, he’s posting these numbers after having surgery on his knee just a couple of weeks ago.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 18, 2010 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
I’m bracing myself for what we got last year, but looking at him more optimistically than with Tomlin or Jennmar.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
I hope he’s having better luck than I am forgetting the straight meatballs he threw his first time up.
by JulioBernazard on Aug 18, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I meant in terms of his performance in the majors last year. You’re saying you guarantee he’s going to pitch just as horribly?
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Aug 18, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough. I think it ‘has the right stuff’ to fit in perfectly.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Aug 18, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you Andrew for offering up another valuable piece of our little puzzle. Someone wrote (maybe in a recap?) last year about tears welling up in Carlos’ eyes as he grooved yet another pitch during his late season audition. I laughed so hard when I read it, but it really was true. Carlos just wasn’t prepared emotionally to handle pitching at the major league level. Maybe he was gassed by the time he reached Cleveland and knew he had nothing. Hopefully, he’ll use the experience and prove himself a competent starter. Boy, we could really use him.
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I had trouble wit the link so am resorting to C’n’P
http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/prospects/prospect-bulletin/2010/2610536.html

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