2011 Tribe Patches
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The probability of the Cleveland Indians winning the World Series in 2011 is less than 80%. But I still think we'll see the Front Office sign a major league patch or two or three to help that team along. I'm not talking about the total NRI gamble - we'll see several of those at every position.
I'm talking about signing players to a Branyan, Grudz, Pavano type contract. The favorite, of course, is the one year with a team option, but those are hard to come by. More likely we'll see a simple 1 or 2 year contract. And these are guys, like Branyan, who we could hopefully trade mid-season next year.
I just wanted to rank the priority of the different positions. Here's my take:
1. OF - Highest priority. We've got exactly 3 guys at the major league level that are (or might be) legitimate starters. Michael Brantley is still young and unproven; Grady Sizemore is coming off of microfracture surgery. It looks like all 3 will spend time on the DL this season. Shelley Duncan/Trevor Crowe - Hell/No. Wegz is set back by his injury. So there's a clear spot for someone of Branyan/Grudz quality. Maybe it will even be Austin Kearns himself. (Or Coco Crisp. Or Jody Gerut. I'm not familiar with any of the other names on the list.)
2. SP - It made a huge difference to drop Pavano in the middle/end of the rotation. Of course, with a pitcher, you're even more likely to be gambling on an injury recovery that could nothing. Let guys like Carlos Carrasco, Josh Tomlin, Jeanmar Gomez, David Huff battle over one fewer spot.
Big drop off...
3. C - Can't count this out if Carlos Santana is anything less than fully recovered. Add another Redmond to backup Marson for a while. And maybe if Santana is recoved, we don't want Marson to be a full time backup yet.
4. Corner IF - Could easily go with the status quo. Decide on Andy Marte/Jayson Nix/Jared Goedert, and let the other(s) backup. Duncan is also a reserve option at 1b. But I could see the FO deciding to just put Ty Wigginton or Melvin Mora or Eric Chavez there. It's what they did with Branyan.
5. RP - Every bullpen ever has room for another quality arm, but we've got a lot of arms here. Most likely we just audition a bunch of NRIs, as proven pen guys are too expensive and possibly imaginary.
6. MI - I really don't think this happens. Just seems unnecessary to the extreme with Asdrubal Cabrera, Jason Donald, Luis Valbuena, Nix.
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I disagree with the need for an OF. With Crowe (if still with the Tribe) at the ML level and Brown, Carrera, and Constanza in AAA I think we have good in the outfield in case of injury. I would guess they won’t sign anyone to a major league deal, just some Spring Training Invittee minor league deals. We are going to have another 40-man roster crunch this offseason. I think they will keep with who they have and try to sort out all their internal options in search of a stable rotation for 2012.
We can go into 2011 with those guys if our intent is to have a similar season to this year.
"I spoil a lot of people with my play."
"But I mean, even my family gets spoiled at times watching me doing things that I do, on and off the court." -Lebron James
by Roger Dorn on Aug 22, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That’s never the intent, just the likely unavoidable outcome.
The problem with sticking with these guys is that you don’t have anyone to trade away at midseason because no one will want crowe et al as a backup/roleplayer/starter to add in a pennant race.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Aug 25, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know who’s out there, but I could see a two-year deal to an aging outfielder. A bat is needed, and there shouldn’t be anymore Crowe-as-regular.
They didn’t expect Grady to be out for so many games. They needed to see what Crowe could do, and if you squint the answer is fourth outfielder.
If you squint. I see him more as the fifth outfielder. If you lose one of your starting outfielders, THEN he’s a reasonable fourth outfielder.
Trade him to the Astros. He’ll fit right in. Can’t the Tribe get Adam Champion from the Tri-City Valley Cats?
Never more appropriate. Rec.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Aug 25, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Just because we have a high number of fourth outfielders does not mean we shouldn’t try to acquire enough outfield depth to actually play our fourth outfielders as fourth outfielders instead of having to start them all the time.
"If Brown is the answer, then you’re asking the wrong question." - Ryan
by woodsmeister on Aug 23, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, its just prudent to expect that someone beyond Grady, Choo and Brantley is going to get a lot of starts. These guys (Crowe, Carrera, Constanza, Brown) are well below starting quality.
by dgcambridge on Aug 23, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
and Brantley or injured Grady might not be starting quality either.
"I spoil a lot of people with my play."
"But I mean, even my family gets spoiled at times watching me doing things that I do, on and off the court." -Lebron James
Yep. We could sign another outfielder who starts 160 games for us - and Crowe et al still might get 80+ starts.
by dgcambridge on Aug 23, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I really thought somebody had designed patches for the 2011 Indians that we could order from CafePress. Maybe one with a picture of Andy Marte and some dominoes, or Chris Perez giving Dustin Pedroia a noogie.
They’re usually in memoriam. I see it as a four-part series:
Games 1-40: Adam Miller Finger
Games 41-81: Travis Hafner Shoulder
Games 82-121: Carlos Santana Knee
Games 122-162: Waves of Arms
by dgcambridge on Aug 24, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Oh, I should have replied here, but I was thinking along similar lines. You made some great suggestions for designs!
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Aug 25, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought it was going to be some kind of badge he was designing for fans to wear as part of their 2011 Indians apparel while they cheer on the tribe, go to the game, etc, and it would be stuck onto other Tribe gear or other garments as a patch to show our tribe loyalty.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Aug 25, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Not weird, I did too. In the abysmal world of post-LeBron Cleveland sports, the most exciting news to me this summer has been the new Cavs uniforms.
Where's your crown, KIng Nothing?
by Turkmenbashi on Aug 25, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Mark Ellis still any good defensively? Fangraphs says he’s still a plus, just not at the elite levels he used to play at. If we add a MI, I would strictly be looking at defense.
I don’t know if Inge can still catch, but there’s a nice option for 3B who can fill in behind the plate in a spot. I assume he won’t be cheap enough.
Alfredo Amezaga is, by quick glance, a pretty-good-to-very-good defensive outfielder.
As for pitchers, I wouldn’t mind giving Snell an invite to camp.
Steel Nick

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