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The probability of the Cleveland Indians winning the World Series in 2011 is less than 80%.  But I still think we'll see the Front Office sign a major league patch or two or three to help that team along.  I'm not talking about the total NRI gamble - we'll see several of those at every position. 

I'm talking about signing players to a Branyan, Grudz, Pavano type contract.  The favorite, of course, is the one year with a team option, but those are hard to come by.  More likely we'll see a simple 1 or 2 year contract.  And these are guys, like Branyan, who we could hopefully trade mid-season next year.

I just wanted to rank the priority of the different positions.  Here's my take:

1.  OF - Highest priority.  We've got exactly 3 guys at the major league level that are (or might be) legitimate starters.  Michael Brantley is still young and unproven; Grady Sizemore is coming off of microfracture surgery.  It looks like all 3 will spend time on the DL this season.  Shelley Duncan/Trevor Crowe - Hell/No.  Wegz is set back by his injury.  So there's a clear spot for someone of Branyan/Grudz quality.  Maybe it will even be Austin Kearns himself.  (Or Coco Crisp.  Or Jody Gerut.  I'm not familiar with any of the other names on the list.)

2.  SP - It made a huge difference to drop Pavano in the middle/end of the rotation.  Of course, with a pitcher, you're even more likely to be gambling on an injury recovery that could nothing.  Let guys like Carlos Carrasco, Josh Tomlin, Jeanmar Gomez, David Huff battle over one fewer spot.

 Big drop off...

3.  C - Can't count this out if Carlos Santana is anything less than fully recovered.  Add another Redmond to backup Marson for a while.  And maybe if Santana is recoved, we don't want Marson to be a full time backup yet.

4.  Corner IF - Could easily go with the status quo.  Decide on Andy Marte/Jayson Nix/Jared Goedert, and let the other(s) backup.  Duncan is also a reserve option at 1b.  But I could see the FO deciding to just put Ty Wigginton or Melvin Mora or Eric Chavez there.  It's what they did with Branyan.

5. RP - Every bullpen ever has room for another quality arm, but we've got a lot of arms here.  Most likely we just audition a bunch of NRIs, as proven pen guys are too expensive and possibly imaginary.

6.  MI - I really don't think this happens.  Just seems unnecessary to the extreme with Asdrubal Cabrera, Jason Donald, Luis Valbuena, Nix. 

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Sign everyone available who had a great 2009 & a lousy 2010 and sift through ’em.

by stuart dean on Aug 20, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

They aren’t supposed to come back.

/sobs

by dgcambridge on Aug 20, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree with the need for an OF. With Crowe (if still with the Tribe) at the ML level and Brown, Carrera, and Constanza in AAA I think we have good in the outfield in case of injury. I would guess they won’t sign anyone to a major league deal, just some Spring Training Invittee minor league deals. We are going to have another 40-man roster crunch this offseason. I think they will keep with who they have and try to sort out all their internal options in search of a stable rotation for 2012.

by datrain021 on Aug 22, 2010 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

We can go into 2011 with those guys if our intent is to have a similar season to this year.

"I spoil a lot of people with my play."
"But I mean, even my family gets spoiled at times watching me doing things that I do, on and off the court." -Lebron James

by Roger Dorn on Aug 22, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

News Flash: Tribe will stink in 2011, too.

by emd2k3 on Aug 22, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not the point.

"I spoil a lot of people with my play."
"But I mean, even my family gets spoiled at times watching me doing things that I do, on and off the court." -Lebron James

by Roger Dorn on Aug 22, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s never the intent, just the likely unavoidable outcome.

The problem with sticking with these guys is that you don’t have anyone to trade away at midseason because no one will want crowe et al as a backup/roleplayer/starter to add in a pennant race.

In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).

by V-Mart Shopper on Aug 25, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know who’s out there, but I could see a two-year deal to an aging outfielder. A bat is needed, and there shouldn’t be anymore Crowe-as-regular.

by odradek on Aug 22, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

We signed two marginal outfielders this year, and yet Crowe saw plenty of time anyway.

by Jay on Aug 22, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

They didn’t expect Grady to be out for so many games. They needed to see what Crowe could do, and if you squint the answer is fourth outfielder.

by odradek on Aug 23, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you squint. I see him more as the fifth outfielder. If you lose one of your starting outfielders, THEN he’s a reasonable fourth outfielder.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Trade him to the Astros. He’ll fit right in. Can’t the Tribe get Adam Champion from the Tri-City Valley Cats?

by odradek on Aug 23, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Championship!

by YoDaddyWags on Aug 23, 2010 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Never more appropriate. Rec.

In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).

by V-Mart Shopper on Aug 25, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just because we have a high number of fourth outfielders does not mean we shouldn’t try to acquire enough outfield depth to actually play our fourth outfielders as fourth outfielders instead of having to start them all the time.

"If Brown is the answer, then you’re asking the wrong question." - Ryan

by woodsmeister on Aug 23, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, its just prudent to expect that someone beyond Grady, Choo and Brantley is going to get a lot of starts. These guys (Crowe, Carrera, Constanza, Brown) are well below starting quality.

by dgcambridge on Aug 23, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

and Brantley or injured Grady might not be starting quality either.

"I spoil a lot of people with my play."
"But I mean, even my family gets spoiled at times watching me doing things that I do, on and off the court." -Lebron James

by Roger Dorn on Aug 23, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. We could sign another outfielder who starts 160 games for us - and Crowe et al still might get 80+ starts.

by dgcambridge on Aug 23, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I weirdly thought this post was going to be about uniform patches for next season ….

by talonk on Aug 23, 2010 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Same here…kind of morbid.

by TribeJay on Aug 23, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah .. mine wasnt morbid or anything … I was thinking maybe anniversary of some sort … Doby appearance, Robinson managing, etc … but none of the timeframes seemed to make any sense.

by talonk on Aug 24, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really thought somebody had designed patches for the 2011 Indians that we could order from CafePress. Maybe one with a picture of Andy Marte and some dominoes, or Chris Perez giving Dustin Pedroia a noogie.

by Chemo on Aug 24, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I should have replied here, but I was thinking along similar lines. You made some great suggestions for designs!

In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).

by V-Mart Shopper on Aug 25, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Same here.

http://www.justingermanofanclub.com/

by westbrook on Aug 25, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was going to be some kind of badge he was designing for fans to wear as part of their 2011 Indians apparel while they cheer on the tribe, go to the game, etc, and it would be stuck onto other Tribe gear or other garments as a patch to show our tribe loyalty.

In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).

by V-Mart Shopper on Aug 25, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not weird, I did too. In the abysmal world of post-LeBron Cleveland sports, the most exciting news to me this summer has been the new Cavs uniforms.

Where's your crown, KIng Nothing?

by Turkmenbashi on Aug 25, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think a defensive minded 3B should be high on the list of potential patches. 3B has been an absolute hole this year defensively. Nix definitely isn’t the answer, they say Geodert needs to work on his D, and Marte seems to have been written off (he has been rather absent minded at 3B as is).

by The Grimace on Aug 24, 2010 12:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Is Mark Ellis still any good defensively? Fangraphs says he’s still a plus, just not at the elite levels he used to play at. If we add a MI, I would strictly be looking at defense.

I don’t know if Inge can still catch, but there’s a nice option for 3B who can fill in behind the plate in a spot. I assume he won’t be cheap enough.

Alfredo Amezaga is, by quick glance, a pretty-good-to-very-good defensive outfielder.

As for pitchers, I wouldn’t mind giving Snell an invite to camp.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 25, 2010 11:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Given the Indians’ interest in Hudson prior to this season, an Inge signing wouldn’t be totally surprising. He would drive the clecommers nuts, too.

by Jay on Aug 25, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Snell!? When did we hire Genius Zderdzencik?

http://www.justingermanofanclub.com/

by westbrook on Aug 25, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

awesome! google knows who i meant.

http://www.justingermanofanclub.com/

by westbrook on Aug 25, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

He just wants to give Snell an invite to camp. He makes amazing s’mores.

by emd2k3 on Aug 25, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thought it was a good low-risk high-reward move at the time.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 25, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

An outfield stick has to be top priority, but the list linked to here is pretty thin (as far as cheap guys go).

by JulioBernazard on Aug 25, 2010 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

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