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He was my first thought as well. but word is he’s trying another come back.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
by notthatnoise on Aug 25, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Wright was not that hyped as a prospect, not like most of the others discussed, certainly not like Strasburg and Prior. His story is more of the flash-in-the-pan rookie.
The hype surrounding him was after he started hot in the bigs? I remember a lot of buzz about the young fireballer.
by JulioBernazard on Aug 26, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
He was a big prospect, but, as Jay says, not BIG like the guys in the article.(looks like he peaked at #22 on the baseball america list). For example, Colon was largely ahead of him. I remember when he came up in 1997 and saying “and this guy’s not even our best prospect!”
by dgcambridge on Aug 26, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Trust me, fans of other teams had never heard of Wright before the ’97 playoffs.
It ain’t remotely the same thing.
There was hardly any internet in ’97, though.
Where's your crown, KIng Nothing?
by Turkmenbashi on Aug 26, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude I never said he was. I don’t know or care anything about how well-know Jaret Wright was as a prospect.
Where's your crown, KIng Nothing?
by Turkmenbashi on Aug 27, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
And yet, we refused to trade him for Pedro.
"If Brown is the answer, then you’re asking the wrong question." - Ryan
by woodsmeister on Aug 27, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is a mistake, I guess, unless you look at it from the point of view where, between Colon and Wright, we didn’t know which one would turn out to be the healthy and productive one.
The most notable part, to me, is the Rob Dibble quote and JP’s reaction to it. Apparently, it doesn’t take very long for selective memory to kick in.
My first reaction was “Why would Jhonny Peralta be reacting to a Rob Dibble quote in this article?”.
Right, right.
by Logodaedalus on Aug 25, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Have to also say that having an acronym where A stands for “a” is not something I can endorse.
Len Barker Perfect Game Attendee
Don’t disagree but in my mind acronyms are governmed more by exclusionary rules. ie, what words don’t get a letter. That list, for me, is the, and and a, among others. How this affects the acronym itself or what combinations migth result from applying these rules is secondary to me. But I don’t really lose much sleep over this stuff either way tbh.
Your point shows that whole sentences don’t really fit the format.
Len Barker Perfect Game Attendee
by PortlandVinny on Aug 26, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
TINSTknaPP
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Aug 26, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
So do you call the ESPN show with Tony and Mike “PI” instead of “PTI” like everyone else?
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 26, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I can not for the life of me figure out what this acronym means, care to explain?
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
by notthatnoise on Aug 27, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
There is no such thing as a pitching prospect.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 27, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
thank you, by the way.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
by notthatnoise on Aug 27, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought it was something specific to this site, I’ve never seen it anywhere else.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
by notthatnoise on Aug 27, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t get your point. sure there aren’t any articles about it, but it comes up in 89 comments, 2 fanposts, and 2 fanshots.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
by notthatnoise on Aug 27, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I can not for the life of me figure out what this acronym means
you didn’t even try. you could have googled it. you knew it was at least “specific to this site”, so you could have gone and looked to see what it was.
you didn’t even try
Sure he did. He came here and asked.
by JulioBernazard on Aug 27, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone gets a little snippier late in a disgusting season.
by JulioBernazard on Aug 27, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure seems that way lately
Where's your crown, KIng Nothing?
by Turkmenbashi on Aug 27, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems like everyone is a lot more sensitive too.
"I spoil a lot of people with my play."
"But I mean, even my family gets spoiled at times watching me doing things that I do, on and off the court." -Lebron James
i don’t understand why every reply is taken as some kind of retort or challenge.
this is where you say “what the hell does me saying people are more sensitive have to do with me challenging turk….?”
I HATE YOU BRICK
Where's your crown, KIng Nothing?
by Turkmenbashi on Aug 27, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
/slams door
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by Turkmenbashi on Aug 27, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the root cause of both behaviors may be similar…
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by Turkmenbashi on Aug 27, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
So he asked here. Who cares? Did that really bother you so much that he asked a question?
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 27, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
You and Chemo are entitled to your opinion, but I make no apology that there is a certain level of effort and thoughtfulness expected around here.
Just how much effort does it take to Google the letters TINSTAAPP anyway? Is it really that much more effort than wondering if it would work?
Regardless of how obscure someone wants to say it is, it is a very VERY common term at any baseball site with sophisticated discussion going on. This is one of those sites. Get used to it.
by Jay on Apr 17, 2010 11:51 PM CDT up actions
by Brick. on Aug 27, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is it really that much more effort than wondering if it would work?
yes.
Regardless of how obscure someone wants to say it is, it is a very VERY common term at any baseball site with sophisticated discussion going on.
I have never seen the term before. I’m sure it appears on sophisticated baseball blogs all the time, but I don’t visit any of those besides this one.
this can all very easily be flipped the other way. Is it really that much more effort to just tell someone what it means than it is to complain about it?
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
by notthatnoise on Aug 27, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
The amount of digital ink being spilled on this argument about wasting time is hilarious
Where's your crown, KIng Nothing?
by Turkmenbashi on Aug 27, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s more about not being a jerk to other people.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 27, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this I can agree with.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
by notthatnoise on Aug 27, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
How’d you do that?
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Aug 27, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I meant the googling part!
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Aug 27, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, it looks like Strasburg is probably headed for Tommy John surgery. He has a significant tear in his UCL. That sucks for all of baseball, really.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
cancelled out by mauer’s re-upping in minnesota, though.
by Brick. on Aug 27, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That one just makes my heart grow.
"I spoil a lot of people with my play."
"But I mean, even my family gets spoiled at times watching me doing things that I do, on and off the court." -Lebron James
by Roger Dorn on Aug 27, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t really know what that has to do with Strasburg’s injury. Don’t you agree that it’s bad for the game of baseball that one of its biggest young stars is injured? Isn’t it good to have a talent like that as part of the game and drawing fan interest? I know he’s not on the Indians, but that doesn’t mean I wish bad things to happen for him. He’s not even in the AL, so his success or failure doesn’t impact the Indians at all.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 27, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Why not? There’s no reason this should be a positive development.
Where's your crown, KIng Nothing?
by Turkmenbashi on Aug 27, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
google the cliche “good for baseball”. a mauer article comes up number 3. this is not even to get into the topic of whether these isolated occurrences are particularly good or bad for “the game”.
I think you’re searching really hard for something to pick on here. Strasburg is an exciting player, and seeing him out for a full year for TJ surgery is a bummer. Simple as that.
Where's your crown, KIng Nothing?
by Turkmenbashi on Aug 27, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
i ain’t searching to pick on squat. the concept that strausburg getting hurt is “bad for baseball” is as dubious and annoying as the concept that mauer getting extended by the twins was “good for baseball”. if people can make those claims, i can make the claim/joke that they cancel each other out in the baseball universe.
I thought the joke was funny, for the record. And I agree the “bad for baseball” claim is dubious. Like I said… it’s a bummer, simple as that. Don’t think we’re really at odds.
Where's your crown, KIng Nothing?
by Turkmenbashi on Aug 27, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
But a player getting injured and not being able to play is completely different than a player signing an extension with a team. Those are two completely different situations and I really don’t see how they’re comparable. It hurts baseball fans because they don’t get to see a great pitcher play; it has nothing to do with small market or big markets or anything like that.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 27, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
now you need to google “too literal”.
what is so hard about this? i am not REALLY comparing the two situations. in what world do you live where you think i’m sitting here with checkers and a scale and tossing one on one side for mauer and one on one side for strasburg and saying “we’re all good, baseball is keeping pace with its goodness for baseball!”
I get really annoyed by announcers who pronounce his name as “Strausburg” ala Leo “Strauss” …His name is spelled Strasburg, without a “u” before the s, and I have no reason to believe it can possibly be pronounced like the philosopher or the jeans guy.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Aug 27, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn’t “good for baseball” in the realistic and true sense, defined by making profits for MLB? In that case, the loss of Strasburg certainly is “bad for baseball” because MLB will make way less money. The Mauer thing doesn’t compare.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Aug 27, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m just saying that the loss of Strasburg really is bad for baseball. They lose profit.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Aug 27, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s certainly terrible for DC, both in terms of continuing to build a fan base and the bottom line
Where's your crown, KIng Nothing?
by Turkmenbashi on Aug 27, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh, I wouldn’t worry too seriously about that.
Where's your crown, KIng Nothing?
by Turkmenbashi on Aug 30, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Really . . . what?
Please explain how a serious injury to baseball’s best and most popular young player is good for the game, because I have no idea.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 27, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m assuming you completely flew over Brick’s joke. The universal “bad for baseball” event is cancelled out by the Mauer signing, because every single writer proclaimed it “good for baseball.”
Steel Nick
But I don’t care about the cliche; I’m talking about the event itself. I don’t care what cliches some writers spew out.
I still haven’t heard why Strasburg’s injury is in any way a good thing.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 27, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Way number 1: weakens a team that is not the Indians.
"I spoil a lot of people with my play."
"But I mean, even my family gets spoiled at times watching me doing things that I do, on and off the court." -Lebron James
I could understand that theory if the Nats were an AL team, but since we’re not competing with them for a playoff spot then I don’t really see how it helps the Indians.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 27, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Every team in baseball is competing for the right to acquire players, the more any other franchise suffers economically (which would be the case if money was wasted on Strasburg) that is one fewer serious competitor with the Indians. It may not be an obvious competition, but there is the chance that it could affect us in the long-term.
"I spoil a lot of people with my play."
"But I mean, even my family gets spoiled at times watching me doing things that I do, on and off the court." -Lebron James
Are the Nats really suffering economically from this? Or was the money sunk cost, and they’re going to suffer mostly on the field?
It just seems to me that the Nats had already spent the 15M regardless.
Right, but they’re losing a lot in gate revenue and merchandise potentially, especially since he’ll be out all next year. DC sports fans have very short attention spans. I’m not sure anyone will care about Strasburg when he’s back in 2012.
In a non-financial sense, they’re losing the best oppurtunity they’ve had to build a real fanbase since the team’s inception.
Where's your crown, KIng Nothing?
by Turkmenbashi on Aug 28, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t most folks already buy their jerseys?
People will still be excited about Strasburg in 2012. Perhaps not so much nationally, but that’s not as important to the club.
This is as good a place to put this comment as any, but I think I still draft him #1 if I’m the Nationals and I know this beforehand.
He’s insanely good. He’s going to be gone a year and a half and come back with a stronger ligament and still ahead of most 2009 draft picks.
Steel Nick
He may in fact remain ahead of his entire draft class.
Sabathia had one of the fastest transitions of the past 30 years from draft pick to full-time major league starter. He was drafted in June 2008 and became a full-time starter in April 2001.
A pitcher from the 2009 draft, on that same timetable, would become a full-time starter in April 2012. That is exactly what Strasburg is likely to do, except, of course, that he already has something of a head start.
Obviously, Sabathia is considered a very successful draft pick, and if you had to pay him an extra $15 million, he still would be considered that. Yeah, I think you take Strasburg even if you know for sure this is going to happen. You perhaps pay him a little less, though.
No, he “became a full-time starter” seven years earlier. He wasn’t a closer in Little League, that’s all Jay is saying.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 30, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope, for their sake, that you’re right. It’s not the best baseball town, but I met plenty of diehard baseball fans in that city just yearning for a real team to root for and refusing to make that team the Orioles. Those folks, though, will be there regardless, I’d imagine.
Where's your crown, KIng Nothing?
by Turkmenbashi on Aug 30, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I am probably in the minority, but I care not a bit about the good of the game or other teams. I watch the Indians and nothing else.
"I spoil a lot of people with my play."
"But I mean, even my family gets spoiled at times watching me doing things that I do, on and off the court." -Lebron James
That’s fine, but I’m a baseball fan and not just an Indians fan.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 27, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I respect that. I think I’m pretty much in that boat, although the other teams and events do interest me sometimes independent of any relationship to the Indians. For instance, I’m interested in a Pujols-Votto triple crown race, and I love to see both players hit. And I love watching the Yankees lose.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Aug 27, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
This seems a little silly to me. I for one liked the outpouring on Twitter from national writers and bloggers for other teams that basically said, “That sucks about Santana.” Because it did suck.
Steel Nick
I wouldn’t say that it’s silly that I, personally, do not care about what happens to other players not on the Indians. I don’t fault anyone else for feeling bad. I also wasn’t comforted by other fans consoling us about Santana.
"I spoil a lot of people with my play."
"But I mean, even my family gets spoiled at times watching me doing things that I do, on and off the court." -Lebron James
I was also not consoled by any such thing.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Aug 28, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree. That’s too bad for the kid, and baseball fans.
by JulioBernazard on Aug 27, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
hundreds of pitchers get TJ. Just because he is more hyped than most of them doesn’t make it any special kind of tragic. The fact that he got that huge contract makes it less tragic, actually. It sucks for the the Nationals, if anyone – but what team doesn’t this happen to from time to time? It highlights another problem with the draft system, I’d say. It hurts ESPN. Injuries, especially to pitchers are “part of the game”, not “bad for the game”. But this doesn’t change The Game any more than Todd Van Poppel sucking. It doesn’t suck any worse than it does for Adam Miller or Dontrelle Willis or Carlos Freaking Santana. You know who it doesn’t suck for is Scott Boras.
I never wrote that it was worse or more game-changing than it happening to anyone else. I said it sucks for Stras (as it does for any young arm) and the fans.
by JulioBernazard on Aug 27, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
hundreds of posters reply fail. Just because Brick is more hyped than most of them doesn’t make it any special kind of tragic. The fact that he gets to write recaps on occasion makes it less tragic, actually. It sucks for Brick’s fans, if anyone – but what poster doesn’t this happen to from time to time? It highlights another problem with the thread system, I’d say. It hurts SBN. Reply fails, especially to frequent posters are "part of the blogging game", not "bad for the blogging game". But this doesn’t change The Blog.
by JulioBernazard on Aug 27, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Does it take 4 to turn green now?
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Aug 27, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Just because it has happened before to other pitchers doesn’t make this any less bad. No, the game of baseball is not going to end, but it’s a better game when the best players are playing.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 27, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
i don’t see where you can have an opinion on this anyway. do you live in DC? do you work in major league baseball?
Strasburg plays for the Nationals. Don’t you understand how Federalism works?
by Logodaedalus on Aug 27, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
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In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Aug 27, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m a baseball fan. I didn’t know only Nationals fans were allowed to have an opinion on a Nationals player.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 27, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
You can’t really call it a joke when you continue the discussion with mutliple comments. After a while, it kinda stops being a joke.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 27, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
a joke is a joke man.
-chuck makes comment about you being from columbus in an article about cleveland.
-you take it a certain way, argument ensues.
-days later another discussion comes up about something and i make joke about the above situation replying “says the man from columbus”.
-you “get it”, take it to next level and make that your signature.
-another innocuous comment you take the wrong way comes up, argument ensues.
-i make joke about how you’re not from DC (ie. the man from columbus).
-again, the same original reply about how you should be allowed to have an opinion regardless happens.
by Brick. on Aug 27, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I didn’t even know you and Brick had been together.
by Brad D on Aug 28, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Nope, you missed the point. ’Twas Brad…
by stuart dean on Aug 28, 2010 9:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The Tommy John Mosque is bad for baseball!
Oh wait, I’m getting stuff confused. Sorry.
by emd2k3 on Aug 30, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That sucks for all of baseball, really.
Really? Because I’m pretty fine with it.
Come on, four billion!
Isn’t the game of baseball better when the best players are playing? From a purely Indians perspective it really doesn’t matter, but as a baseball fan this is bad news.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 27, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem is that Strasburg was greedy in his negotiations after the draft like when Jim stupidly choose Pam over Karen, which is pretty much like picking Vazquez over Phillips, who was never given the real chances that Andy Marte has received, or really any of the Indians excellent but low-ceiling draft picks, some of whom probably suspected Hafner’s shoulder injury before he signed and therefore blocked Jordan Brown, who is the Steven Speilberg of the International League, a league better than the NL West, irregardless of which we never should have traded Cliff Lee away from the respectful real Clevelander Chief Wahoo, who would look better in a Shapiro-brand button down gingham with chinos thereby allowing Shapiro to have traded Grady away in 2008, giving CC one less player that he should’ve known about aside from his fellow soft-tossing lefties.
by dgcambridge on Aug 27, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
Post of the century right here
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by Turkmenbashi on Aug 27, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
run-on-sentence length is an idiot stat
by Logodaedalus on Aug 28, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m sorry I missed whatever the Spielberg discussion was.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 30, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, this is part of the beauty of the game. Herb Score, J.R. Richard, Doc Gooden, Mark Fidrych. A baseball fan sees many of these stars fall across the sky, a moment of glory, and then darkness. Observing Strasburg pitch I thought of Bob Feller’s peevish comment—something like “come ask me again when he’s won 100 games”—and I realized the awe with which we watch these rare players who make the game seem so easy. Inevitably—and, again, this is part of baseball—the game has a way of ingloriously crushing most players. As the cliche puts it, the game has a way of making you humble. As Cyril Connolly said (perhaps too cynically for your tastes), “Whom the gods wish to destroy they first call promising.”
Baseball would not be so great if these sorts of players all were permitted to enjoy long, seemingly effortless, careers. The best players often aren’t playing (think Kirk Gibson or Grover Alexander). And despite the magic of such moments, it’s never as easy as it seems. The other team always gets its outs, as well.
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