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The indifference of Beckett, Lester, and Lackey in a time of crisis can be seen in what team sources say became their habit of drinking beer, eating fast-food fried chicken, and playing video games in the clubhouse during games while their teammates tried to salvage a once-promising season.

hilarious.

by hans on Oct 12, 2011 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

ESPN wouldn’t do that to their Sawx.

by johnf34 on Oct 12, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know, I would actually watch this. Nothing quite like watching Sox fans suffer.

If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.

by Cap'n Snegiryov on Oct 13, 2011 6:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Someone here said it before – Soxenfreude…

by stuart dean on Oct 13, 2011 8:31 AM EDT reply actions  

I prefer the spelling “Sawxenfreude.”

by ameliorate on Oct 13, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Olberman calls out ownership here.

by stuart dean on Oct 13, 2011 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

The Boston media ain’t looking very pretty through this mess. Take the Adrian Gonzalez comment about the schedule – the quote was taken waaaay out of context: he was simply asked by a reporter in August whether he found the schedule to be difficult, and he said that the night/prime time games on getaway days were difficult. I don’t see how he was making excuses as the question was asked while the Sox were in first place.

This brings up stories I have heard about the Cleveland media members getting into it with Boston media members. Heck, you only have to listen to Hammy to hear the disdain for all things associated with the Red Sox. In the case of this article, it exemplifies how douchey the Boston writers are.

Plus, it’s great to lump Lester and Buchholz into the same group as Lackey and Beckett. Let them all crash and burn.

I also envision “Chicken Delays” at all of the road games these guys pitch (as ground crews pick up all the chicken fans throw on the field).

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Oct 13, 2011 10:44 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I also envision "Chicken Delays" at all of the road games these guys pitch (as ground crews pick up all the chicken fans throw on the field).

Awesome. Little pedroiants would love living in the ballpark grass.

by westbrook on Oct 13, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s amazing how quickly that whole organization has come apart. Just six weeks ago they were almost a lock to make the playoffs, and with HFA in the playoffs to boot. Now Terry Francona is gone, Theo Epstein jumped ship to the Chicago Cubs(!), and now the Boston media is bringing out the long knives.

Beckett et al have been doing the chicken runs long before the collapse began (and for all I know, this may be common with other teams as well), so the only reason why this is coming out now is that it is now “safe” to start printing this stuff. Not that I’m feeling sorry for that team and that city.

by Ryan on Oct 13, 2011 11:58 AM EDT reply actions  

this may be common with other teams as well

I feel like I saw plenty of shots during the ‘11 Tribe season of Masterson, Fausto, and Ubie in the dugout during games when they weren’t pitching. I’m not entirely sure that it’s common for SPs to hang out in the clubhouse as much, or for as long, as The Fried Chicken Posse was.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I don’t think something like this would fly on a younger team, or with a manager that commanded presence in the clubhouse.

by hans on Oct 14, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not Wedge supporter, but could you even imagine him allowing something like this….nah. The Red Sox were a complete mess (and I can’t tell you the joy I feel as I write that sentence).

by hans on Oct 14, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Will BOS reach out to Wedge? I’m sure he’d be happy to leave SEA.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 14, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you’re going after an under-contract guy, why would you choose Wedge!?

by westbrook on Oct 14, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

He rules with an iron fist!

Also, I’d like to see Youk patrol LF.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 14, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

And Chris Gimenez signed and given the catching job in ST without any competition.

by westbrook on Oct 18, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eating chicken is no surprise from fringe relievers – like Terry Forster – but I think you expect your leading starters to be in the dugout unless they’re getting work done.

Of course, it’s possible these guys had just completed a heavy workout and were in the middle of icing down when they were eating the chicken. I wouldn’t put it past the Boston media to get the full story and context wrong.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Oct 13, 2011 8:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

had just completed a heavy workout

Have you seen John Lackey lately? The video game-playing is his workout.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 14, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of the guys at hardballtalk called them the Fried Chicken Posse. I think that would be an awesome blog name.

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on Oct 13, 2011 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

A juicy little coda from Trader Jack.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2011 2:54 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

McKeon recalled in June how he handed out what he called "poo-poo cards and pee-pee cards. Put them where I was sitting (in the dugout), so if you wanted to go to bathroom you had to get a card. That broke it up."

I’m way too absorbed by this. Were there different cards for poo-poo and pee-pee? Did you need to take two cards if you planned to do both?

by TheDanimal on Oct 17, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those are just the NL rules.

by YoDaddyWags on Oct 17, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

AJ Pierzynski weighs in:

It’s just, sometimes you just need a rally beer.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Oct 13, 2011 5:04 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s a douchebag, so he’d know.

Formerly fwembt, now co-moderator of Banners on the Parkway

by Brad D on Oct 21, 2011 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

On the other hand, Keith Hernandez must have smoked a pack of cigarettes each game. You’d see him taking drags in the dugout all the time.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Oct 13, 2011 8:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Oddly, this whole mess made me actually respect Pedroia a bit more. At least he was trying.

by ameliorate on Oct 13, 2011 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

The little guy sure does give it his all…

by emd2k3 on Oct 14, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I’m not sure he’d be able to stand upright after one beer.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 14, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

The hits keep on coming

(Boston owner) Henry said that he ultimately deferred to general manager Theo Epstein and the front office decision-makers, adding:

“We had plenty of left-handed hitting. I don’t have to go into why. I’ll just tell you that at the time I opposed the deal, but I don’t meddle to the point of making decisions for our baseball team.”

I don’t think “dysfunctional” even begins to describe what’s going on in Boston…

by Ryan on Oct 14, 2011 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice. Theo gets to go from dysfunctional to more dysfunctional for 15 million.

by johnf34 on Oct 14, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was pretty shocked to see that quote on Crawford. Is Henry unaware that he still owes the guy something like $140M for the next six years?

by APV on Oct 14, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find the most bizarre part of the statement was that his primary reason for opposing the deal was that he is left-handed.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 16, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I get that. He’s not a remarkable hitter, and his lefthanded-ness makes even him less so.

Put another way, the deal looks somewhat better if he’s a switch hitter.

by Jay on Oct 16, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

but then you couldn’t rationalize pulling him vs lefties!

by westbrook on Oct 18, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, I am with you, my point was more that you should be more opposed to the massive contract because he can’t hit that well not because he is a lefty which is only a smaller factor.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 21, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, it all adds up. I would argue that the contract looks a whole lot better if he’s a righty with the same overall numbers.

by Jay on Oct 21, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Found this little guy on the googles.

by joeee on Oct 15, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

It shall be green.

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on Oct 18, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

So is it ok to call them the DoucheHose once again?

by talonk on Oct 17, 2011 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

When wasn’t it OK?

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Oct 17, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was going to say the same thing… I mean why wouldn’t you call them that?

by hans on Oct 17, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was at least one person on this site who was bagging me for using that term. Calling it childish if i recall corrrectly. Personally, I have no problem using Jackwagons and DoucheHose, but I stopped because of that comment.

by talonk on Oct 18, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well it sure wasn’t me, but I see where you’re coming from.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Oct 18, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure it was me who initially said it, but it is pretty childish to come up with cutesy little nicknames to refer to teams you don’t like. You might as well call them doo-doo heads.

by Joel D on Oct 18, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doo-dooHose?

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Oct 18, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is only the case if you lump all disparaging remarks into one level of strength or meaning. There are nuances here and sometimes a childish response works perfectly in invoking the added humor (in it’s childishness) for your disgust for the target.

Is it high discourse? no. But, like whatever man.

(I do appreciate the dissenting opinion though, group think is always a risk in generally uniformal discourses.)

by hans on Oct 19, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Plus, there’s a pretty high correlation between use of terms like “Douche Hose,” “White Sux,” etc. and clecom-style commenting.

by cleveland teamer on Oct 22, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree to disagree.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Oct 23, 2011 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, he’s right. The dummies like their dumb little nicknames a lot.

by Jay on Oct 24, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

But everything they do is dumb. We can’t just have one little thing?

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Oct 24, 2011 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

The terms have their uses, as Jay exhibits here.

by YoDaddyWags on Oct 24, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

They can put “Sabathia is a jackass” on my tombstone.

by Jay on Oct 26, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

The future LGT Mecca.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Oct 26, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

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