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Not much more to say. Carmona will occupy $7 million on the 2011 payroll, and the club retain an 2012 option on him. Sizemore's buyout is $500,000, so the club saves $8.5 million by declining the option. Sizermore is now eligible for free agency. Brantley is now eligible to be our injury-prone center fielder.

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Yeah, not liking the outfield situation right now. Michael Brantley is the starting CF, Shelley Duncan is your starting LF, and either Carrera or Crowe is the fourth outfielder. The Indians need to sign two outfielders now.

by Ryan on Oct 31, 2011 12:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Meh. The WS-winning club just trotted out John Jay and Skip Schumaker in two of the OF positions in Gm7. Of course, they get a little more production from 1B.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 31, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll give you Schumaker, but Jon Jay looks like a promising player – in 826 major-league PA, he has 114 OPS+.

At the very least, the Indians need to sign a starting left fielder and a good backup center fielder, because if Brantley misses any time the Indians are hosed at that position.

by Ryan on Oct 31, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if they’ll consider bringing back Fukudome, at a lesser price tag.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 31, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want this to happen.

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Oct 31, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’d be cool, but he’d have to take a big pay hit.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 31, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

He will regardless.

by Jay on Nov 1, 2011 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d take Fukudome for sure on a small two year deal.

by johnf34 on Oct 31, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you implying that EZ Carrerra is a less-than-optimal backup CF?

by woodsmeister on Oct 31, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

i personally like Carrera

"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard" -Norm Nixon
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius

by ChewyFL on Oct 31, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Her OTD+ is 135 in the summertime, but only 89 during the snow/sleet days.

by talonk on Nov 1, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure she bunts with much more aplomb than Zeke.

by JulioBernazard on Nov 2, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I see Trevor Crowe play in Cleveland this year I am going to vomit

by APV on Oct 31, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trevor Crowe might be playing in Atlanta next season. He fits the definition of a second-line player to a T.

by woodsmeister on Oct 31, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d rather see Crowe than Zeke.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 31, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Crowe wasn’t 45 months older than EZ, I’d agree

by APV on Oct 31, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zeke over Crowe for me. Although either is a 5th OF for me.

by johnf34 on Oct 31, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

:/

Sammy Watkins for Heisman

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2011 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Unless I’m mistaken, don’t they have a small window where only they can talk to him? Not that I expect them to re-sign him because I don’t. Just wondering.

As long as he stays healthy and gets back out there, I can deal with it. It will be odd to see him in another uni, but baseball needs him at his best, no matter what team it’s for. Of course, if he goes to NYY, BOS, CHW or to a lesser extent SF, DET or PHI, that feeling may change. ;-)

In all seriousness now, where do you see him going? I would hope for his sake it’s not somewhere like Houston or Washington. It sounds like mostly NL teams would be interested.

by cozmeesah on Oct 31, 2011 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Yankees and Boston are both pretty set in centerfield.

by woodsmeister on Oct 31, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly, which makes me happy. Was just outlining the teams I don’t care for. :)

by cozmeesah on Oct 31, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably Mets on a 1 year deal. Agent sounded like he’s playing for next year’s big contract.

Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic. - Robert S. Wieder

by jerseywahoo on Oct 31, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where did you see Urbon talking about it?

by cozmeesah on Oct 31, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear Boston doesn’t want another left-handed hitter.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Oct 31, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boston Herald predictably says that the Red Sox are interested, though they say that about every large® free agent out there. They also say that Grady is willing to shift to a corner outfield spot if needed. However, any team having Grady for a RF I feel sorry for. Teams will run on him like crazy all season long.

If he goes to the Red Sox I will lose my lunch. That would signal the time where I stop following him. The, the Yankees or White Sox and I’m done. Any other team and I’ll still follow him. Just couldn’t stomach watching those 3 teams at all.

by cozmeesah on Nov 1, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Boston wants him in the clubhouse. Which is fortunate, because he doesn’t spend much time on the field anymore.

by Jay on Nov 1, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Then Boston doesn’t know much about him. A guy who rarely talks isn’t going to fix their clubhouse a whole lot. Not with the douches they’ll still have. That clubhouse could actually keep them from getting someone like Grady.

by cozmeesah on Nov 1, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could be. Seems like they more needed a guy like Victor.

by Jay on Nov 1, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

He will shift if needed? How do they know, aren’t we still under the timeline where we can talk to him exclusively?

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Nov 1, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t you know by now that NE sports media can state blind assumption as fact with impunity on any topic?

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on Nov 2, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any offers probably can’t be presented to Grady until tonight after midnight, but I would assume that any of the teams could call and talk to his agent any time.

His agent, Joe Urbon, told the Washington Post this:

“He wants to have an opportunity that will allow him to show he’s still the elite player he’s been,” Urbon said. “In a perfect world, he’d love to play center field. You can’t ignore the fact that’s where he won two Gold Gloves, where he’s been a three-time all-star. When healthy, he’s one of the best players in the game. But if he feels the best opportunity is for him to play in a corner spot, then he has the ability to do that.”

He also says he’s open to just about any opportunity that comes his way before he makes a decision.

by cozmeesah on Nov 2, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate to tell his agent, but you can ignore that fact, because he has never played another position. Deductive reasoning.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Nov 3, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

His price range will be low enough that everyone who has an OF need should be in play.

by johnf34 on Oct 31, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

But will Grady accept an offer to go somewhere and play LEFT field? There’s no question about his inability to play right field given his poor arm.

by woodsmeister on Oct 31, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

If there’s one guy on the Indians who doesn’t hit 80 it’s Grady. I think Brantley gets there.

by johnf34 on Oct 31, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this is probably huge. If the Indians tell him that, if healthy, CF is his, he stays.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Oct 31, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why did we/ we did give up to get Derek Lowe? MLBtraderumors posted it. I know… I know.

Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic. - Robert S. Wieder

by jerseywahoo on Oct 31, 2011 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

saw this myself. What the flip???

Fear the Fedora.

by MooneysRebellion on Oct 31, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buster Olney tweets a “second-line player return going from CLE to ATL.” Hope it’s not Trombone Shorty.

by YoDaddyWags on Oct 31, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not to get too far off Indian-talk, but I just finished watching the first season of Treme, and in my estimation, it is actually a better piece of the filmmaking than the Wire.

Rather scared. Inquiring about dog.

by T.O. Tribe on Oct 31, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Many of my friends—including Nawlinsians—love Treme. I tuned in to the first episode, which seemed to me contrived and unbelievable, a screenwriter’s version of real life. I’ll cheerfully concede being wrongheaded about this, though.

by YoDaddyWags on Oct 31, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Certainly, I was slow to warm to the series. John Goodman’s character — his whole family, in fact — seemed contrived at first. Same for Steve Zahn’s character. But by the end, the breadth of story, the depth of characterization and above all the pace of the storytelling won me over. Very reminiscent of European cinema.

The fact that a series like Treme got made, which focused so much on cultural fine points (ie. music, cuisine, tribal ritual, etc.) at the “expense” of more tangible fiction elements, not to mention the corny expository dialogue that litters most tv shows these days, is a credit to HBO (and D.Simon).

Regarding the Wire, I found it to be an excellent show, but much like Salman Rushdie said, at the end it is still just a police procedural. And a cynical one at that. The main thing that the Wire lacks, which Treme contains (in the same way we experience in real life) is joy. Oh, wait a minute….I am an Indian fan, aren’t I?

Rather scared. Inquiring about dog.

by T.O. Tribe on Oct 31, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Odd that a Treme thread broke out in a Sizemore thread…or not

by APV on Oct 31, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, but it’s the off-season and I’m lonely here in Canada with nobody around me who has ever seen Treme. Words cannot express how smitten I was with that program. At least I have season two to look forward to…come on, iTunes! Bring it!
I need something for the long winter months.

Rather scared. Inquiring about dog.

by T.O. Tribe on Oct 31, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Wire is not “just a police procedural.”

I like ex-Phillies prospects.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 31, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t get me wrong — the Wire is a fantastic show. It is about the chase, the job, honour, hypocrisy, power and many more things (within the structure of a police procedural). However, at the end of the day, the Wire expounds a deeply negative, deeply cynical worldview (that rarely ever lets up), whereas Treme, in my mind, is more closely attuned to the complete human experience. While stuck in the mire, joy and happiness can still be found.

Rather scared. Inquiring about dog.

by T.O. Tribe on Oct 31, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still fairly cynical, though not as much as the Wire.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 31, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Treme quite a bit.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 31, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

On certain forums, Zahn’s character is referred to as “Jar Jar.”

by Jay on Nov 1, 2011 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Try it again. It’s beautiful.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 31, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m opposed to this move on a sentimental basis. Then I realize that paying a player 9 million to continually disappoint is not a rational move. Best of luck Grady.

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Oct 31, 2011 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Why, God?

I like ex-Phillies prospects.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 31, 2011 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I have to think it’s time to move Grady officially to LF now if he comes back.

by johnf34 on Oct 31, 2011 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Can we start a new thread for all of us who will need new LGT nicknames?

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 31, 2011 4:33 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

westbrook stuck with his! Credit to him and whoever stays with it because I would’ve changed.

by johnf34 on Oct 31, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Time to go into hiding.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Oct 31, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Assume for a minute that no one wants to give him more than a couple year deal with performance incentives that I am gathering we would (did?) offer him. Do you think he would deal with us, or is this kind of thing usually the kiss of death? A while back Adam was basically assuming that you had to pick up the option to get Sizemore to sign a friendly contract. Does this (still?) sound about right?

by gmfrodo on Oct 31, 2011 6:22 PM EDT reply actions  

From Hoynsie: "Grady is not going to rule out playing for anyone, including the Indians," said Joe Urbon, Sizemore’s agent. "The only difference is now he is able to engage with all 30 teams."

As jerseywahoo noted above, it does sound like they’ll take the biggest one year deal they can get, hope for a big 2012 and a bigger 2013 payday.

by YoDaddyWags on Oct 31, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

interesting, thanks

by gmfrodo on Nov 1, 2011 8:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Grant Bisbee on Grady’s next contract, from that story to the right:

Of all the contracts this offseason, the one I’m most interested in isn’t the one that Pujols, Fielder, or Reyes will get — it’s the leap of faith that someone will take with Sizemore. One year, $4 million with incentives? Two years, $14 million guaranteed? More? Less? I have no idea. Whoever makes the deal is likely to be disappointed.

Travelers to Sizemoria have a map with, in lieu of data, the inscription: “Here be dragons.”

by YoDaddyWags on Nov 1, 2011 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

But, really, what these travelers will learn is that Sizemoria is round; no matter how many (DL) trips they make, they’ll always end up back in the same spot where they started.

Rather scared. Inquiring about dog.

by T.O. Tribe on Nov 1, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d like to end up back in the spot we started.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Nov 1, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is essentially what happened when he first came back this year….only to go on the DL yet again.

Rather scared. Inquiring about dog.

by T.O. Tribe on Nov 2, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was an exciting few weeks, eh?

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Nov 3, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

it was like the baseball gods had acknowledged our pain.

nope.

I like ex-Phillies prospects.

by Gradyforpresident on Nov 3, 2011 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh my, was it ever.
Lord, did I really believe then that we might pull off a miracle season.

Rather scared. Inquiring about dog.

by T.O. Tribe on Nov 3, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

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