Indians decline Sizemore's option, pick up Carmona's
Not much more to say. Carmona will occupy $7 million on the 2011 payroll, and the club retain an 2012 option on him. Sizemore's buyout is $500,000, so the club saves $8.5 million by declining the option. Sizermore is now eligible for free agency. Brantley is now eligible to be our injury-prone center fielder.
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Yeah, not liking the outfield situation right now. Michael Brantley is the starting CF, Shelley Duncan is your starting LF, and either Carrera or Crowe is the fourth outfielder. The Indians need to sign two outfielders now.
Meh. The WS-winning club just trotted out John Jay and Skip Schumaker in two of the OF positions in Gm7. Of course, they get a little more production from 1B.
by JulioBernazard on Oct 31, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll give you Schumaker, but Jon Jay looks like a promising player – in 826 major-league PA, he has 114 OPS+.
At the very least, the Indians need to sign a starting left fielder and a good backup center fielder, because if Brantley misses any time the Indians are hosed at that position.
I wonder if they’ll consider bringing back Fukudome, at a lesser price tag.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on Oct 31, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
That’d be cool, but he’d have to take a big pay hit.
by JulioBernazard on Oct 31, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you implying that EZ Carrerra is a less-than-optimal backup CF?
by woodsmeister on Oct 31, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
i personally like Carrera
"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard" -Norm Nixon
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
I personally like my mother, but she has awful range and a questionable arm.
by Joel D on Oct 31, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I’m sure she bunts with much more aplomb than Zeke.
by JulioBernazard on Nov 2, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Trevor Crowe might be playing in Atlanta next season. He fits the definition of a second-line player to a T.
by woodsmeister on Oct 31, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless I’m mistaken, don’t they have a small window where only they can talk to him? Not that I expect them to re-sign him because I don’t. Just wondering.
As long as he stays healthy and gets back out there, I can deal with it. It will be odd to see him in another uni, but baseball needs him at his best, no matter what team it’s for. Of course, if he goes to NYY, BOS, CHW or to a lesser extent SF, DET or PHI, that feeling may change. ;-)
In all seriousness now, where do you see him going? I would hope for his sake it’s not somewhere like Houston or Washington. It sounds like mostly NL teams would be interested.
Yankees and Boston are both pretty set in centerfield.
by woodsmeister on Oct 31, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Boston Herald predictably says that the Red Sox are interested, though they say that about every large® free agent out there. They also say that Grady is willing to shift to a corner outfield spot if needed. However, any team having Grady for a RF I feel sorry for. Teams will run on him like crazy all season long.
If he goes to the Red Sox I will lose my lunch. That would signal the time where I stop following him. The, the Yankees or White Sox and I’m done. Any other team and I’ll still follow him. Just couldn’t stomach watching those 3 teams at all.
Boston wants him in the clubhouse. Which is fortunate, because he doesn’t spend much time on the field anymore.
by Jay on Nov 1, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He will shift if needed? How do they know, aren’t we still under the timeline where we can talk to him exclusively?
Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.
Any offers probably can’t be presented to Grady until tonight after midnight, but I would assume that any of the teams could call and talk to his agent any time.
His agent, Joe Urbon, told the Washington Post this:
“He wants to have an opportunity that will allow him to show he’s still the elite player he’s been,” Urbon said. “In a perfect world, he’d love to play center field. You can’t ignore the fact that’s where he won two Gold Gloves, where he’s been a three-time all-star. When healthy, he’s one of the best players in the game. But if he feels the best opportunity is for him to play in a corner spot, then he has the ability to do that.”
He also says he’s open to just about any opportunity that comes his way before he makes a decision.
But will Grady accept an offer to go somewhere and play LEFT field? There’s no question about his inability to play right field given his poor arm.
by woodsmeister on Oct 31, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Why did we/ we did give up to get Derek Lowe? MLBtraderumors posted it. I know… I know.
Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic. - Robert S. Wieder
saw this myself. What the flip???
Fear the Fedora.
by MooneysRebellion on Oct 31, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Buster Olney tweets a “second-line player return going from CLE to ATL.” Hope it’s not Trombone Shorty.
by YoDaddyWags on Oct 31, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not to get too far off Indian-talk, but I just finished watching the first season of Treme, and in my estimation, it is actually a better piece of the filmmaking than the Wire.
Rather scared. Inquiring about dog.
Many of my friends—including Nawlinsians—love Treme. I tuned in to the first episode, which seemed to me contrived and unbelievable, a screenwriter’s version of real life. I’ll cheerfully concede being wrongheaded about this, though.
Certainly, I was slow to warm to the series. John Goodman’s character — his whole family, in fact — seemed contrived at first. Same for Steve Zahn’s character. But by the end, the breadth of story, the depth of characterization and above all the pace of the storytelling won me over. Very reminiscent of European cinema.
The fact that a series like Treme got made, which focused so much on cultural fine points (ie. music, cuisine, tribal ritual, etc.) at the “expense” of more tangible fiction elements, not to mention the corny expository dialogue that litters most tv shows these days, is a credit to HBO (and D.Simon).
Regarding the Wire, I found it to be an excellent show, but much like Salman Rushdie said, at the end it is still just a police procedural. And a cynical one at that. The main thing that the Wire lacks, which Treme contains (in the same way we experience in real life) is joy. Oh, wait a minute….I am an Indian fan, aren’t I?
Rather scared. Inquiring about dog.
Sorry, but it’s the off-season and I’m lonely here in Canada with nobody around me who has ever seen Treme. Words cannot express how smitten I was with that program. At least I have season two to look forward to…come on, iTunes! Bring it!
I need something for the long winter months.
Rather scared. Inquiring about dog.
The Wire is not “just a police procedural.”
I like ex-Phillies prospects.
by Gradyforpresident on Oct 31, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t get me wrong — the Wire is a fantastic show. It is about the chase, the job, honour, hypocrisy, power and many more things (within the structure of a police procedural). However, at the end of the day, the Wire expounds a deeply negative, deeply cynical worldview (that rarely ever lets up), whereas Treme, in my mind, is more closely attuned to the complete human experience. While stuck in the mire, joy and happiness can still be found.
Rather scared. Inquiring about dog.
On certain forums, Zahn’s character is referred to as “Jar Jar.”
by Jay on Nov 1, 2011 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m opposed to this move on a sentimental basis. Then I realize that paying a player 9 million to continually disappoint is not a rational move. Best of luck Grady.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
Why, God?
I like ex-Phillies prospects.
by Gradyforpresident on Oct 31, 2011 1:28 PM EDT reply actions
Can we start a new thread for all of us who will need new LGT nicknames?
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on Oct 31, 2011 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Assume for a minute that no one wants to give him more than a couple year deal with performance incentives that I am gathering we would (did?) offer him. Do you think he would deal with us, or is this kind of thing usually the kiss of death? A while back Adam was basically assuming that you had to pick up the option to get Sizemore to sign a friendly contract. Does this (still?) sound about right?
From Hoynsie: "Grady is not going to rule out playing for anyone, including the Indians," said Joe Urbon, Sizemore’s agent. "The only difference is now he is able to engage with all 30 teams."
As jerseywahoo noted above, it does sound like they’ll take the biggest one year deal they can get, hope for a big 2012 and a bigger 2013 payday.
Grant Bisbee on Grady’s next contract, from that story to the right:
Of all the contracts this offseason, the one I’m most interested in isn’t the one that Pujols, Fielder, or Reyes will get — it’s the leap of faith that someone will take with Sizemore. One year, $4 million with incentives? Two years, $14 million guaranteed? More? Less? I have no idea. Whoever makes the deal is likely to be disappointed.
Travelers to Sizemoria have a map with, in lieu of data, the inscription: “Here be dragons.”
But, really, what these travelers will learn is that Sizemoria is round; no matter how many (DL) trips they make, they’ll always end up back in the same spot where they started.
Rather scared. Inquiring about dog.
Which is essentially what happened when he first came back this year….only to go on the DL yet again.
Rather scared. Inquiring about dog.
it was like the baseball gods had acknowledged our pain.
nope.
I like ex-Phillies prospects.
by Gradyforpresident on Nov 3, 2011 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions
















