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Multiple media outlets — MLB.com, Sports Illustrated, WTAM — are now reporting (or at least tweeting) that the Indians will announce that they have signed Grady Sizemore to a new deal, either tonight or tomorrow.

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So, what’s the over/under on number of games Sizemore plays in next year? I’m guessing 96.

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by mauichuck on Nov 22, 2011 8:30 PM EST reply actions  

I’ll take the over, but just barely. Set it at 105 and I’d really be torn.

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by Brad D on Nov 22, 2011 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

definitely go w/ the under on 105

by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 23, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

As long as he hits 81 games played in CF, I’m happy.

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by USSChoo on Nov 22, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Really? Bar seems kinda low.

by JulioBernazard on Nov 23, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

This is a bet between Chuck and I dating back 2 years now. Loser gets an avatar makeover.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Nov 25, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m happy for Phil. I want this story to end well, not as a slightly more tragic Joe Charbeneau.

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by Brad D on Nov 22, 2011 9:47 PM EST reply actions  

Very pleased right now. Any takers on a Grady 20 homers vs. Fausto 4.00 ERA bet?

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by Turkmenbashi on Nov 23, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Is the bet Fausto under 4? Because if that’s the case, I think Grady with 20 homers is more likely.

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by notthatnoise on Nov 23, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

4 or lower

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by Turkmenbashi on Nov 24, 2011 3:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Definitely Grady 20 homers.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Nov 24, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Ditto.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Nov 25, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Is neither an option?

by callmrplow on Nov 30, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I still think the most likely outcome for next year is another injury and bad play for Sizemore….but I think this was a good move by Cleveland

by APV on Nov 22, 2011 9:59 PM EST reply actions  

What is second most likely… Great year, leave as FA?

by Brick. on Nov 22, 2011 10:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Grady’s Glebes.

"Sounds like 'Take the Z-Train' to me." -- Antoine Batiste

by T.O. Tribe on Nov 23, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m sure Rastafarians would grow an alternative crop to grapes

by AllenSmith on Nov 23, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Are we counting playoff games?

by OscarDog on Nov 22, 2011 11:12 PM EST reply actions  

I like the way you think.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Nov 23, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it’s like stats. I don’t count Division, Championship or World Series games, but I will count the one game play off at the end of the season when he homers to give us a 1-0 win in Detroit to win the Division.

by LondonTribe on Nov 23, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s official. 1-year deal, no option for 2013. Base salary of $5 million, $4 million in incentives don’t kick in until he reaches 450 PA.

Will earn $500,000 if is named Comeback POTY.

by cozmeesah on Nov 23, 2011 11:28 AM EST reply actions  

A like the high threshold for incentives

by APV on Nov 23, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

As do I. Of course people are already complaining about the $5 mil base. What did they think he’d take when other teams were probably offering him $5-$6? It was always going to be around $5 mil when they said a deal was close.

by cozmeesah on Nov 23, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

In a market where Rod Barajas and Juan Rivera are getting more than $4M and Jamey Carroll, Mark Ellis and Willie Bloomquist are getting multi-year deals…I’ll take Grady’s 1-year $5M without much complaint.

by APV on Nov 23, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah it’s a thin market for talented players and the middling ones are going to get that cash influx from the teams. It’s a good move. Now we need to get another outfielder and a 1st baseman.

by hans on Nov 23, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

That much for Barajas? I wonder what Rod Beck could get in today’s market (as is).

by jhon on Nov 23, 2011 1:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

people are complaining about the $5 mil base? I love this deal.

by westbrook on Nov 23, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah. Twitter and Facebook are ablaze with anger.

by cozmeesah on Nov 23, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

And of course you get people like Lastoria saying it’s “questionable.” Why do people listen to him again?

by cozmeesah on Nov 23, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s only because he probably thinks Carrera is a “solid regular.”

by callmrplow on Nov 30, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Sizemore’s performance bonuses max out at fewer plate appearances than he had in any season from 2005-08.

This kind of seems like a cheap shot from Hoynes to drum up discontent. Of course it’s going to be lower. They aren’t going to make him have more PAs than he did in full seasons in order to earn his bonus.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Nov 23, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate to defend Hoynsie, but is it possible he just provided it for context, so fans would know how many PAs are expected in a year?

by JulioBernazard on Nov 23, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s a cheap shot. Sizemore was the most durable player in the world for those seasons. It’s not a fair standard for being a regular everyday player in reasonably good health.

by Jay on Nov 23, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

That is a terrible quote. Sizemore led the league in plate appearances in 2007 (748), was second in the league in 2006 (751) and 2008 (745), and still topped 700 in 2005. A grand total of 9 guys had more plate appearances than Grady at any point during those 4 years and NO ONE had more.

by APV on Nov 23, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Another way of thinking about this….if Sizemore maxes out his bonus it means he has stayed very healthy all season. It also means he has not only remained healthy, but been a guy you want to have in the lineup everyday from a performance stand point. It is hard to imagine both of those being correct and Sizemore not being worth at least 2 WAR, which is about the value of this deal, fully maxed out. The contract values Sizemore’s 2012 somewhere in between Josh Tomlin and Jack Hannahan.

by APV on Nov 23, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Considering that I doubt he’ll be a lead off hitter in 2012, it wouldn’t be fair to set it at any level that equals 05-08.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Nov 25, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Payroll likely at around $65MM now.

by cheech99 on Nov 23, 2011 11:53 AM EST reply actions  

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