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Was told couple weeks ago Rondon suffered a "setback." Don't have details. Could be DFA candidate. Roster at 41.

Bastian on twitter. Pretty depressing.

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[goes back and looks at the schedule]

Yep…seems about right

by APV on Dec 1, 2011 1:17 PM EST reply actions  

Oooof.

Fear the Fedora.

by MooneysRebellion on Dec 1, 2011 1:22 PM EST reply actions  

Slightly more seriously, I think/hope the Indians may be increasingly incorporating volatility in pitcher development into how they handle pitchers in the system. Pitchers blow up, the best way to handle them is to get as much out of them before they blow. We have seen over the last several years both a more aggressive promotion regime for pitchers and a willingness to trade young guys like White/Pomeranz/Gardner for a pitcher with a longer track record of health. I would be open to the Indians being even more aggressive with pitchers, and basically promoting them to the bigs as soon some portion of their repertoire, even if their entire set of pitches, seems major-league ready.

by APV on Dec 1, 2011 1:25 PM EST reply actions  

I would be open to the Indians being even more aggressive with pitchers, and basically promoting them to the bigs as soon some portion of their repertoire, even if their entire set of pitches, seems major-league ready.

Especially in non-contending years.

Fear the Fedora.

by MooneysRebellion on Dec 1, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Especially in non-contending years

So, whattya think, does 2012 fall into that category?

Our best players wear suits.

by mauichuck on Dec 1, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn’t say that at all, I don’t believe. Just considering the past couple years (2009 and 2010) were certainly the right points in time to be pushing guys, since it certainly wasn’t going to help our W/L record or matter.

Fear the Fedora.

by MooneysRebellion on Dec 1, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Not saying you implied one thing or another. All I’m asking is this: do you think the Indian’s will contend next year or not? Personally, I’m don’t like the Indians chances of winning it all next year..

Our best players wear suits.

by mauichuck on Dec 1, 2011 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Contend, yes. Win it all, too many question marks at this point to say yes.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Dec 1, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

At the time of the trade, my dad said to me, “The Indians must think something is wrong with these pitchers. What do you think it is?”

I said: “They’ve risen in value recently. That makes them inherently flawed.”

by Jay on Dec 2, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish I had more conversations about the Indians like this with my family members. Actually, the most knowledgeable of them all is my grandmother.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Dec 3, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Rondon was always a favorite of mine, sad if true.

by Roger Dorn on Dec 1, 2011 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

So predictable. Never get attached to a pitching prospect. Yes, I mean you all your Pomeranz lovers.

by Cols714 on Dec 1, 2011 11:18 PM EST reply actions  

Yes, I mean you all your Pomeranz lovers.

Really?

by APV on Dec 2, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I have a feeling you are going to reverse jinx this and Pomeranz will be a superstar.

by Roger Dorn on Dec 2, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

It will be triple reversed into a wrinkle in the fabric of our universe and one of us will become Pomeranz. Likely, whoever among us is already missing an appendix.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Dec 2, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The Pomeranz is a lie.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Dec 2, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

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