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Indians designate RHP Josh Judy for assignment to clear a spot on 40-man roster for OF Aaron Cunningham. Roster is at capacity.

Bastian on Twitter. If I've got this right, we'll know if Judy's been retained or claimed by another team in the next few days. Judy is a 25 y/o right-handed reliever who was very poor in his Major League debut last season. He has had some success in the minors.

Surprised it was him instead of Juan Diaz, but we'll have to wait and see if Judy is claimed. The Indians rarely lose a player on waivers, in the Rule 5, etc.

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Simply for depth reasons I’d hate to see Cunningham’s price rise from one to two upper level pitchers.

by MTF on Dec 17, 2011 3:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Both of whom were well into the double digits on the depth chart, I’ve got to assume. If Judy had ended up throwing a single high-leverage pitch for the Tribe this year, we’d have much larger problems.

by Joel D on Dec 17, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

This. Our depth in relief arms far exceeds our depth of guys who are young and can play SS.

by APV on Dec 17, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t get worked up over relief prospects. Not too long ago, Frank Herrman was dominating the minor leagues.

Plus, while everyone is eyeing CC Lee to be this year’s Pestano, I think Zach Putnam is going to shut down some people with that splitter.

by xrickx on Dec 18, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t say “dominating,” but the point still stands.

I would argue that the volatility of relievers makes depth all that much more important in the pen. I’m not saying this move shouldn’t have been made by any means, just that losing Judy could have more of an impact that we’d think at this juncture.

by callmrplow on Dec 20, 2011 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not disagreeing, but what you’re really getting at here is that any number of relievers can be ineffective enough to be DFA’ed one season and then near-dominant in another season. It’s the nature of the beast.

by Jay on Dec 20, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe I missed this discussion in another string, but why would they have DFA’d Juan Diaz? He was just added to the 40 man to protect him from the Rule 5 draft. I agree that he is one of the weakest players on the roster, but the FO must want to keep him if they recently rostered him in lieu of someone else.

by Kenyafan on Dec 17, 2011 4:56 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, I think there’s just been speculation that he’s got to be close to the bottom of the 40. You’re right that it wouldn’t make sense for them to add him just to remove him but, stranger things have happened.

by afh4 on Dec 17, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

judy jumped out at me when we signed sizemore. i’m sure he’ll pass through.

by Brick. on Dec 17, 2011 5:01 PM EST reply actions  

I was a little worried that Josh might get snatched up, so naturally I read the MLBTR comments to get some substantial insight into the issue of his attractiveness to other teams.

It was just a bunch of Judge Judy jokes.

Based on that, I think he’s safe.

by PBH on Dec 18, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, because MLBTR commenters = major league GMs.

by Jay on Dec 19, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Excellent point, Jay. Where would I be without you?

I know where to look, Cleveland.com comments!

by PBH on Dec 19, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Signing veterans to minor league deals is a good thing and every team does it, but the extent to which we are re-stocking Columbus also has to do with the failure of a whole cohort of minor leaguers in the Tribe’s system. This includes former prospects like Nick Weglarz and Beau Mills, poor draft choices like Tim Fedroff and John Drennen, and guys who just stagnated like Hodges, McBride and Goedert.

by APV on Dec 18, 2011 1:53 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Really makes you appreciate the stretch of drafts that included Belle (1987), Thome (1989), Giles (1989), Ramirez (1991), and Sexson (1993).

by xrickx on Dec 18, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

It is kind of the black box of player development, but presumably those guys also met a few coaches coming up through the organization that, at best, helped them become better or, at worst, didn’t screw them up. They weren’t drafted as finished products.

by APV on Dec 18, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Even Branyan (1994), who might end up with more than 200 career hr.

by jhon on Dec 18, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s not so much that Branyan belongs on that list as that Sexson doesn’t.

by Jay on Dec 19, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I read it more like, “been a while since we turned up even one Sexson.”

Richie was a very tall player—a big target—who could occasionally hit baseballs far; certainly he made for a more legible selection than the Drennen crowd.

by jhon on Dec 19, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Damning with faint praise.

We got only a couple of good players out of 12 years of drafts, 1996-2007. There’s a dozen different ways to say it, but that’s the bottom line.

by Jay on Dec 19, 2011 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I like that Beau Mills could be listed in all three groups.

by Brick. on Dec 18, 2011 11:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

We’re going with “former prospect” for Weglarz, who turned 24 two days ago?

Let’s give him another year of sucking.

by Jay on Dec 19, 2011 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously! Seven minor league seasons under his belt now. In that time his peak for playing time came way back in 2007 (127 games). Since then, in order, his games played have gone: 106, 105, 87, 41. If I’m not mistaken, I think this year will also use his last option. He is almost a former baseball player at this point, let alone a former prospect.

by APV on Dec 19, 2011 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I blame Canada

by Brick. on Dec 19, 2011 9:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Then why don’t we DFA him?

by Jay on Dec 19, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Why DFA him until we have someone to take the spot? It is not as if we had anyone selected in the rule 5 draft. But should one of these non-roster spring training invites impress, Weglarz should certainly be one of the people considered for roster removal.

by APV on Dec 19, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Um, we just had someone a few days ago.

by Jay on Dec 19, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Just because we value Josh Judy less, doesn’t mean we should value Weglarz much

by APV on Dec 19, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Would you keep him over Diaz and/or Neal?

by jhon on Dec 19, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know. We’re sort of stuck trying to see Diaz the way the front office does.

by Jay on Dec 19, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

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