Buck, Duncan, Hannahan Make Team
Per Ocker. Huff sent to Columbus, as are Gomez and EZ Carrera. Reyes outrighted to minor league camp.
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Buck and Duncan? Both are 4thOF/1B leaving one slot for utility IF if the bullpen is 7 deep. One of them is getting sent down when Grady comes back unless Brantley looks awful.
I kinda figured that would be what happens anyway. I love Shelley, but I think he’ll be the one. Jay did uncover that one option remaining.
"Spring Training wins are good for the soul."
Buck has the remaining option. New user engtribe uncovered it.
by jhon on Mar 25, 2011 8:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I thought Duncan had an option as well.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Mar 25, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Does Buck have options left? I know Duncan has one left but I’m not sure about Buck.
"I don't always hit the ball with the bases loaded. But when I do, I prefer a Grand Slam." - Travis Hafner WITH HAIR
Nothing surprising. Herrmann, Germano and Pestano will be the relievers. Only the backup catcher is in play, and if they can’t make a forty man move Marson may stick in Cleveland even though he’s had an atrocious spring with the bat.
I think the final reliever spot is still open, particularly since Germano is not on the 40-man roster. Seems like a 3-way race between Nix, Valbuena and Everett (Everett would be the long-shot) for the utility infielder spot. I have no idea how to pick a backup catcher…if the bullpen puts a roster crunch on the team, that obviously favors Marson.
Just doesn’t seem like that weighed too heavily going into camp. His ISO was the only strong point – even slugging like he did (and I believe he tailed off), he still had a sub .300 obp.
Some guys’ 2010 performance earned them at least a high spot in the ST pecking order – judging by his general usage time and name-drops, Nix doesn’t seem to be one of those guys. He just hasn’t had a very good camp.
Tomlin’s the SP4, per Bastian and every other Indians newsbreaker on Twitter:
Acta said Carrasco is the No. 2 starter to break up sinkerballers (Carmona/Masterson). Manager said Tomlin earned No. 4 with strong spring.
You are reading my signature.
searching twitter to see if anyone interesting made PIT’s roster yet unveiled this. What is this guy talking about?
"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady
No matter how often we repeat the contrary on this website, in the rest of the Cleveland sports world it is taken as gospel fact that Andy Marte was given plenty of opportunity by the Indians – in fact, more than he deserved. Not sure why this guy thinks that Lewis didn’t have enough opportunity.
"Magic would be getting productivity out of Crowe or Valbuena. I’ll admit we could use a little luck, but that’s not the same thing." - Jay
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by woodsmeister on Mar 25, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, RHP Jesse English signed to minor league contract.
"Magic would be getting productivity out of Crowe or Valbuena. I’ll admit we could use a little luck, but that’s not the same thing." - Jay
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Sorry – Reliever LHP Jesse English.
"Magic would be getting productivity out of Crowe or Valbuena. I’ll admit we could use a little luck, but that’s not the same thing." - Jay
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by woodsmeister on Mar 25, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
We can always use another lefty in the pen.
He wore #50 last year for the Nats. Things just keep getting worse for Jensen Lewis.
I’m sure Jensen has dibs on #50 at Columbus. English is the newcomer.
"Magic would be getting productivity out of Crowe or Valbuena. I’ll admit we could use a little luck, but that’s not the same thing." - Jay
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by woodsmeister on Mar 25, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
It is good that Jensen will be there to show him around Columbus and remind him to stop at Grandpa’s Cheese Barn on the way up I-71.
"Magic would be getting productivity out of Crowe or Valbuena. I’ll admit we could use a little luck, but that’s not the same thing." - Jay
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by woodsmeister on Mar 25, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m driving up to the Cleveland area from Columbus to visit my parents this weekend. Meanwhile, I’m almost out of pickled eggs – I’ll have to make a stop at the Cheese Barn.
by InfiniteMonkeyTypists on Mar 25, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m afraid that it is made from the people who book a stay at the Grandpa’s Cheese Barn Bed and Breakfast suites.
by InfiniteMonkeyTypists on Mar 25, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think the team wanted Marson to earn the backup catcher spot…but his woeful spring training hasn’t helped. I’m guessing he goes to Columbus to try to figure out how to hit, and Paul Phillips, the man-legend, goes to Cleveland with the team. I also think Valbuena comes to Cleveland and Nix gets DFAed.
Out of options and won’t clear waivers.
"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady
This is an interesting problem. I think the fact that ACTA considers Talbot only to be competing for the 5th spot in the rotation is not so much how good Tomlin is, but more of how bad Talbot has been this spring and even at the end of last year. The problem is Huff was optioned out and Gomez does not look much better. Basically, the internal options are not very good so Talbot will probably be in the 5th spot. However, I have not looked lately, but I think that the Tribe should be looking around for a Veteren pitcher. I would much rather let a young guy with potential fill out the roster and the 5th spot in the rotation, but I am not sure any of the options provide much hope for the future, so it might be worth taking a flier on Bonderman ect….. just my two cents
Guys, seriously. You’re fretting over spring training numbers from a guy who is not competing for anything. Talbot may very well collapse this year—he doesn’t have much room for error in his peripherals—but you’re not going to divine it from his spring training performance.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Mar 25, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem is that it is not really spring training that bothers me. The last two month of the season Talbot had rough a 6.00 ERA, followed by a awful spring and the manager not showing much confidence all that together is bothersome.
Also when the manager comes out and says the guy who you thought was going to be the 5th start is now the 4th it raises a lot of confidence questions about the impression that Talbot has made this spring and more so at the end of the year
Talbot was coming some serious lost time to injuries so him falling apart at the end of last year wasn’t out of the blue. And maybe they see him more as the 5th starter to start the season in an effort not to do the same this year and gradually ramp him up.
by The Grimace on Mar 25, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Talbot missed two starts in early August, then closed out the season with a 5.40 ERA over eight starts. He was a little better than that in July, 4.95 ERA, and he pitched into (a little) bad luck on BIP in all three months.
Not sure where you’re getting this “rough 6.00 ERA,” but a 5.21 second half is hardly bad to any noteworthy degree, especially when the guy had some injury trouble. I’m not saying there’s no cause for concern, but there’s certainly no cause for this kind of alarm.
As Manhattan noted, the guy was not competing for a spot, so his spring performances were not competitive but rather just tuneup opportunities, and the numbers should be disregarded as such.
I guess we will see how it plays out.
by johio1 on Mar 26, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is a great summary line for many more of our pitchers than just Talbot. I’m trying follow this advice: do not assume on Talbot, or most of the other starters.
Yep, pretty much all of them, but I think we can rely on Fausto. He’s not the 2007 edition, but he’s a horse and has become a better pitcher than he was then, believe it or not.
He made 33 starts last year, pitched 210 innings, and had a 3.77 era (shorthand stats). That’s reliable on any team. And he’s throwing more than one pitch now, too.
Per above, everybody else is a big question mark – might suck, might be good, no reason to make sucking the default state. I do think Talbot and Tomlin at their best are average starting pitchers (there’s a good market for that I hear), but Masterson and Carrasco have the potential to be better than that.
You’ve been posting here a year, and you’re still acting as if wins are a meaningful statistic.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Mar 26, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey! Leave me to my assumptions and prejudices.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Mar 26, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
This might end up reaching Fanpost length, but I’m putting it here for the sake of relevance:
On March 11, “Cleveland right-hander Mitch Talbot, who has a spot in the starting rotation, was charged with three runs on five hits in three innings against Seattle. In all this spring, Talbot has surrendered 14 runs on 15 hits in 6 2/3 innings.”
Whatever. The important part there is bolded. Guys who have jobs going into ST typically don’t approach it the same way guys like Buck and Hannahan did.
“Even though it is only Spring Training, both Talbot and Acta said it was a bit of a relief to see an improved showing from the starter. Talbot said it helped having the knowledge that he already had a spot on the Opening Day roster. That allowed him to work through his mechanical issue without worrying about losing a Major League job.” —Bastian
Want more details?
That 17.55 ERA for Mitch Talbot is still eating at you? How about we turn the mic over to Mr. Acta again…
"It is Spring Training," Acta repeated, "and he’s got a spot on the club and he’s just getting himself ready."
Now that we’ve got all that out of the way, let’s get one thing clear. If Talbot were fighting for the fifth spot in the rotation, he might be in trouble. But that’s not his situation. He won 10 games a year ago as a rookie for a team that lost 93. So Acta believes Talbot has earned the right to open this season as one of the five starters.
That said, it is certainly worth pointing out that Talbot is out of player options. What that means is the right-hander would need to be exposed to waivers — up for grabs by other pitching-starved clubs — before he could be sent to the Minor Leagues. Cleveland is not going to mess with that scenario. It needs all the depth it can get.
The other thing to keep in mind is a player’s mind-set when he knows he has a spot guaranteed on the Opening Day roster. Spring Training is no longer a time to come out fighting. It is suddenly a time to work on things. Don’t like how that pitch is moving? Keep throwing it until you get it right — no matter the results.
As for the end of last season, Antonetti said early this month:
Showing the effect of working far more innings (159 1/3) last season than ever before, Talbot ran into what general manager Chris Antonetti characterized as “fatigue” in the second half of the season. He made only 11 of his 28 starts after the All-Star break and averaged less than five innings in them.
"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady
I learned my lesson on spring training stats with Peralta for his last few years. Guy was the spring training champ every season.
I didn’t quite remember it that way, so I checked. He had a great spring in 2009, but most of the others were pretty ordinary. Below .300, a handful of extra base hits. Did have a good spring in 2005 too.
So Hoynes throws in a comment today saying it is (he?) believed Everett is the favorite for the utility role. If true, that would surprise me.
by APV on Mar 26, 2011 8:48 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Could be indicative of new focus on defense and maybe, like Marson, they want Valbuena to play daily. Where he plays in AAA, especially if Josh Rodriguez returns, is another question. Whose going to be the ss at Columbus, anyway? Rodriguez?
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