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New Caps - Aye or Nay

After the first few games, I have noticed some disagreements on the new alternate home cap, so enter the poll zone:

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And just for reference, here is the road cap (not alternate):

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I personally like the red cap and the new road one as well. I also like the new uniforms. Was bummed to see the last of the script Cleveland go, but the block Cleveland seems more traditional to me.

Poll
Which cap do you prefer best?
Home Blue with red bill and Wahoo
24 votes
Home Alternate all red with midnight block C (shown above)
7 votes
Road Midnight with red Block C (shown above)
39 votes
Road Alternate all blue with Wahoo
20 votes

90 votes | Poll has closed

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I’m not completely against the idea of a red cap in general, but they feel tacked on to a uniform that they don’t go well with. I agree with emd2k3 from the balls in play thread that the socks should be red. Plus, like I pointed out over there, the red in the caps is not the same shade of red that’s in the logo on the shirt. It looks very awkward, and I’m sort of stunned that they couldn’t make the darn thing match.

by VA tribe fan on Apr 6, 2011 12:53 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s probably the same red, but with different fabrics and different lighting conditions,hard to match.

by emd2k3 on Apr 6, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  


I wish it was a lighting issue, but in every picture I can find from the April 3 game, the difference really is this jarring. Plus, the sleeves and socks are blue, and the batting helmets are too. Throw in that the fonts on the caps and jerseys are completely different, which already bugged me when they wore these with the midnight block C caps, and these uniforms are just a dischordant mess.

by VA tribe fan on Apr 6, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Change those long sleeves and the piping on the pants to red and I think there wouldn’t be an issue. The difference in font between the cap and jersey is something that has happened quite a bit historically in MLB and for the most part is not overtly jarring to me.

I'm emotional about my glove...

by JimmyAB on Apr 6, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forgot to add: Why are the Texas Rangers playing in Progressive Field?

by emd2k3 on Apr 6, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

while the Rangers do wear red, the Tribe has worn red on many occasions throughout the years as well.

1904 – home, 1928 – home had a red wahoo, 1933-35 had red striping on the top, 1936, 1938-1944 home had red C on iniform and cap, 1944-1949 home and road had red lettering, 1951-1962 home and road also had red lettering, 1963-1969 home and road introduced red sleeving and red caps as well as the lettering, 1970 home and road red lettering only, 1972 home and road red lettering and caps, 1974 red top, 1975-1977 red top or red top and pants, and from 1978 to today, most of the uniforms have had some form of red as an accent.

So obviously our red predates the Rangers /sarc

by talonk on Apr 6, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice job but you forgot the piping.

Texas Rangers? Um, no I don’t believe they currently have a uniform with that type of combination.

I'm emotional about my glove...

by JimmyAB on Apr 6, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry about sounding curt. It wasn’t intentional as I think it’s great that you are taking the time to do those alterations/creations.

I'm emotional about my glove...

by JimmyAB on Apr 6, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

More Angels, then. I got confused with the alternate red Rangers jersey. They also have alternate red caps.

by emd2k3 on Apr 6, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is a huge improvement! Throw in red piping, make the hats the same rich tribe red as the sleeves, maybe add a cream border around the blue C (or make the C entirely cream) and that would be one of the all-time great tribe uniforms! But just the simple switch to red sleeves makes a world of difference.

by VA tribe fan on Apr 6, 2011 2:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The reason for this mismatch is obvious: Larry Dolan got the red hats for a song. He wasn’t about to buy new socks or sleeves.

by odradek on Apr 6, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really like the two wahoo hats and the blue hat with the red c. I am not fan of the red hat with the blue c, I think it looks horrible.

by craig19 on Apr 6, 2011 9:32 AM EDT reply actions  

I prefer this one with the “I” that you can still get from mlb.com, but is it gone completely.from the field? The “C” at first reminded me of the Chicago Cubs when it came out, although I guess the font is different, but I’ll get used to it.

As for the four you mention, nay to the red cap, yay to the others.

by Matt Y. on Apr 6, 2011 9:49 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t love the C for the reason you mention: I think at least four teams are now featuring “C” on a hat—the Twins, the Cubs, the Reds, and the Indians. I do not want to have the Wahoo discussion again (that is an order), but if they are uncomfortable with Wahoo on the cap, regardless of how you or I or anyone else feels about the logo, they ought to change it. It’s silly and boring to not be able to use any kind of iconography on the uniform.

by afh4 on Apr 6, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I actually have a black cap with a silver I that I really like. I know it isn’t an official cap, but I like it nonetheless.

by talonk on Apr 6, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I prefer the 1948 script to the current one. The current one looks too perfect and well-designed.

by emd2k3 on Apr 6, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love both of the Block C caps. It may seem odd to some considering that they’ve had the Wahoo cap since 1984 and it’s very iconic, but historically the team has had a C on it’s cap for the larger majority of its existence. They had Wahoo inside a C from 54 to 57—which is a pretty sweet hat, but it looks better with script jerseys than the new block letters. I find the new block lettering refreshing. I think the fans need to put the 90s out of their heads and an the new, yet classic, look should facilitate that.

by PBH on Apr 6, 2011 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, good points. The new red cap is sort of a combination of the ’68 and some of the late 70s/early 80s caps with the block C. Both of which were pretty sharp looking caps.

If there is a color difference (and I don’t think there is actually) between the uniform lettering and the caps it is due to the sheen of the fabrics/stitching, etc. but they obviously need to coordinate some of the other elements such as under shirts, sox,, stirrups, etc.; they should all be red or with red piping/banding.

I'm emotional about my glove...

by JimmyAB on Apr 6, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

This.

Granted, the team sucked during much of the ‘chop-block’ type days, but it’s unlike any other type (block or script) that is used in MLB.

by emd2k3 on Apr 6, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I love all the chop-block stuff. Those are my favorite Indians uniforms.

by afh4 on Apr 6, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

even the all red uniforms with that font? Yikes.

by talonk on Apr 6, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

BANG.

Same simple concept, but at least not as generic.

by emd2k3 on Apr 6, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Cool. That would be an awesome sleeve patch. I like it even though I’m not especially fond of that chop-a-block font. It would be a really cool jersey with just a big red “C” or script “I” (but different than the most recent iteration which was an awkward looking thing) on the left breast.

I'm emotional about my glove...

by JimmyAB on Apr 6, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

emd, you have mail in regards to the uniform numbers.

by talonk on Apr 6, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would kill a man for that jersey. Holy cow.

by Turkmenbashi on Apr 9, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that red is worse than the new caps.

by talonk on Apr 6, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree. Man that’s ugly.

by Matt Y. on Apr 6, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, he was fooled on the pitch and was lucky to get a piece of it.

by YoDaddyWags on Apr 6, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s a pie/cake joke here somewhere…

by VA tribe fan on Apr 6, 2011 2:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don’t love the all-red but I like it as much as I like the cream and block script and way more than any of the cursive stuff.

I’m a sucker for a jersey that easily converts into a t-shirt, though.

by afh4 on Apr 6, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now batting, Scarlett Beauregarde.

by emd2k3 on Apr 6, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely agree. I especially like the rare blue version.

by Turkmenbashi on Apr 6, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Let’s Go Tribe dreamcatcher logo uses the chop-block font (Boog Powell version).

by odradek on Apr 7, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the hat I wear—picked it up in Cooperstown—and I love it.

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Apr 6, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really like the red hats on their own but, as some have said, I don’t like the way they look with the cream “faux-back” jerseys. In general, I’m starting to think they kinda dropped the ball on those jerseys entirely. I know they were going for simplicity, but they lack personality. Maybe, like with the new Cavs jerseys, I’m conflating the plain jersey with mediocrity and it’s mor of a psychological construct, but I like these jerseys less and less since the day they were introduced.

I think the best overall ensemble is the blue jerseys with the all blue wahoo cap. Would really like to see a blue script jersey with block C cap combo. Regardless, I’ll continue to rock the new red cap since, for some reason, I’ve been wanting the Indians to do a red cap since I was a kid.

by Turkmenbashi on Apr 6, 2011 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I prefer the blue one, but I still like the red one. As others have said, if they incorporate more red into the rest of the uniform, I don’t think it will be a problem.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Apr 6, 2011 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m the only one who liked the Script I right?

by Gradyforpresident on Apr 6, 2011 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Liked it, didn’t love it. Liked the script “Indians”.

by Jay on Apr 6, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

But I also prefer the block lettering on the uniform to the script. So obviously something will have to give because the block lettering and the Script I cap probably don’t work too well together.

by talonk on Apr 6, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I like it as well.

by talonk on Apr 6, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t nuts about it. Out of the context of the full logo, it looks like too much like a J to me.

by VA tribe fan on Apr 6, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blechh… that cap was not a pretty sight, especially when it had the silver outline (and don’t get me started on those terrible vests). The script “Indians” was good but I’ve seen about enough of it at this point.

I'm emotional about my glove...

by JimmyAB on Apr 6, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Random cap logo idea. I should clarify that I would never advocate changing the name from Indians. Also, adding this type of logo would have to done only after winning a World Series (or two) in order to stop the masses from hyperventilating. But this type of logo would be an interesting way to acknowledge our rich and long baseball history. As an alternative, alternative uniform cap, it would be another marketing angle and a new paraphernalia line for the Indians Team Shop. Obviously, they would have to change it from the Richmond University logo, but I was envisioning something simple like it.

What do you think? Do most hate the idea?

by Kenyafan on Apr 6, 2011 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I would love to be the Spiders, period. I think it’s a cool, underutilized mascot.

Also, the Naps!

by afh4 on Apr 6, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just tweeted about this the other day. I could very much get behind a name change to the Spiders.

by ameliorate on Apr 6, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait until the team moves to Orlando, then do it.

by odradek on Apr 6, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the only name change suggestion I’ve heard that I didn’t hate.

by VA tribe fan on Apr 9, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

UR’s logo looks more like a flea than a spider. I cringe every time I see it, and given that I live in Richmond, I cringe a lot.

As for the red block C caps, my biggest problem is the lack of contrast between the background and the logo. Even trimming the C in white would make it better. Dark blue on red doesn’t please the eye.

by FredOx on Apr 6, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the non-trim version (at least the red C on navy caps) … it’s awesomely old school.

by emd2k3 on Apr 6, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’re picking a new logo, but all the options I’ve seen are cringe worthy.

by cleveland teamer on Apr 13, 2011 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

GO X!

Wait, what?

The persuasion is not inherent in the lobster.

by Joel D on Apr 6, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

This has come up before, but the only change I support is to make the nickname “Tribe” official. The Cleveland Tribe.

by jhon on Apr 6, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would love to be the cleveland spiders. Imagine the cool uniform designs.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Apr 6, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d go for the Spiders also. Just gotta get past the 20-134 season.

by DixonCayne on Apr 8, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll always be a fan of the script I uniforms.

by emily522 on Apr 6, 2011 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

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