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Farm Fresh: 5/1/2011

Everything seems right in the baseball realm of Cleveland these days...

Columbus Clippers: Luis Valbuena

The return of Jason Donald and Josh Rodriguez has created a small battalion of infielders in Columbus. It seems as if someone is going to need to go soon. After a hot week (9-24, 3 HRs), none of them are hitting better than Valbuena at this point (.300/.355/.543). Valbuena, who is 25, is younger than Donald and Rodriguez, but older than Phelps/Chisenhall/Kipnis, and seems the most uncertainly positioned within the organization. Valbuena's chance at occupying a role in Cleveland seems to exist only in the narrowest of cracks between the current Cleveland roster and the more organizationally valuable guys right behind him.

Akron Aeros: Chun-Hsiu Chen

2010 breakout Chun-Hsiu Chen has not made much noise in 2011. And yet, if you look at his line, .288/.316/.493, it isn't so bad for a 22-year old AA catcher. Most of this has come in the past week, as Chen has caught fire, 8-21 with 4 HRs, raising his line to a respectable level. Chen has not yet found the strong plate discipline he displayed the past two seasons, just 3 walks against 19 Ks, but his line is certainly encouraging. The catching depth in the organization right now, particularly from an offensive standpoint, is impressive.

Kinston Indians: Giovanni Soto

A year ago Kevin Goldstein said this about Soto:

Fantastic command and good secondary pitches; if velocity projects like some scouts think it will, he could turn into something.

This week he said this:

19-year-old precision lefty with sink, but sits in the mid-to-upper 80s; if he can fill out and gain some velo, the Indians might be on to something here.

Reports out of Kinston this year are that Soto has indeed increased his velocity. Soto put up his first scoreless outing of the season on Wednesday, going six strong innings (3 hits, 1 walk, 6 Ks). Soto's been a bit up and down in his four starts thus far, but his overall line 15 hits, 7 walks, 20 Ks in 20.2 IP is worth watching.

Lake County Captains: Jesus Aguilar

I almost gave this slot to Aguilar last week after a 3-HR game. He followed that performance up with two more HRs this week, giving him 6 already on the season. Last year's Lake County HR leader hit a whopping 13, meaning as of May 1st Aguilar is well on his way to topping that number. Aguilar's overall line, .253/.341/.532, shows a nice combination of power and patience, despite having some contact problems (20 Ks) and a sub-par BABIP (.264). Aguilar is a 20-year behemoth Venezuelan (6'3", 240), whose defense is never going to be anything, so he needs a great bat to make his way up the organization.

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by stuart dean on May 1, 2011 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

How are they going to deploy the battalion? So it’s in rough order of importance… Chisenhall, Kipnis, Phelps, Donald, Valbuena, Rodriguez? So basically everyone sits once every six games while everyone else rotates among 3B/SS/2B/1B/DH? Or does Rodriguez sit more than the others….

by cheech99 on May 1, 2011 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I think someone has to go

by APV on May 1, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I almost wonder if they’ll do something unexpected. Seems like we’d be selling pretty low on Valbuena but I’m not sure what else they can do.

by cheech99 on May 1, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I won’t be happy to see Valbuena go. But I also like Huff, so I’m probably a moron.

by APV on May 1, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, you STILL like Huff?

by afh4 on May 2, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I still like the possibility of Huff. I don’t like the current manifestation of Huff.

by APV on May 2, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Huff is possibility-less.

by afh4 on May 2, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

You can have my conductor’s hat as I have stepped off of the Huff train.

by The DiaTriber on May 2, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Donald > Phelps until proven otherwise in the bigs.

I agree that someone has to go.

by Jay on May 2, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Donald > Phelps until proven otherwise in the bigs.

this

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on May 2, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phelps and Moncrief leading their respective leagues in walks.

And check out Cory Burns’ line in Akron:

7.2 6 2 1 1 0 17 (7 saves, and yes, that’s 17 K’s in less than 8 innings)

by mcrose on May 1, 2011 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Burns’ numbers are comic book silly. 17 of the 23 outs he has recorded have come via the K. That is insane. With 0 walks. That would be like Josh Tomlin, who has pitched 33 innings, recording 73 Ks.

by APV on May 1, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

And it is AA after all – at some point he’s going to be getting some press.

by mcrose on May 1, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’re being raved on Mike & Mike in the morning! “The Indians are for real and their not going anywhere.”

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on May 2, 2011 6:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Just saw Dave Winfield saying some fairly nice and objective things about the Indians, I assume Golic or did they have a guest on?

"Ok everyone listen up! I've just invited Dave to suck it!"

by GoTribe028 on May 2, 2011 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

They had their resident MLB guy on, can’t remember his name.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on May 2, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, I was pretty surprised to see the Indians game as one of the lead stories on Sportscenter last night. Even ahead of the Heat/Celtics game.

by Toxicadam on May 2, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know of course that Golic’s from Cleveland – St. Joe’s I believe. They talk a lot – waaaaay too much in fact – about the Mets too, because the other Mike is Mets fan.

Our best players wear suits.

by mauichuck on May 2, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah. I forgot that Golic’s an Indians fan. Still nice though.

by emily522 on May 2, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really…he’s more of a Yankee fan than a Mets fan, but he doesn’t have a big baseball allegiance.

by TribeJay on May 2, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d say he’s mostly a Jets fan who sometimes talks about baseball. Granted, I haven’t listened to them lately.

by FredOx on May 2, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the accurate description. I remember the baseball season preview, either opening day or the day before. There would be a solid 20-30 minutes between actual MLB discussion.

by 7foot3 on May 2, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chen gets highlighted in Goldstein’s monday morning 10-pack today:

…Catchers with his kind of bat are a rare commodity, but his ability to stay behind the plate remains in doubt. In 160 career games at catcher, Chen has been charged with 35 passed balls and 15 errors, and while he’s made some progress so far this year, he remains well below-average defensively…

by APV on May 2, 2011 8:03 AM EDT reply actions  

It gets mentioned a lot that Chen will likely need moved from behind the plate, but then it becomes a question of where do you place him? First base seems to be a popular opinion. Maybe right field?

"Ok everyone listen up! I've just invited Dave to suck it!"

by GoTribe028 on May 2, 2011 8:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Reply fail

"Ok everyone listen up! I've just invited Dave to suck it!"

by GoTribe028 on May 2, 2011 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seems like we could use more guys at second base.

by Jay on May 2, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

backup second base

by APV on May 2, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Selig expands the playoffs to ten teams, maybe he’ll expand the rosters to allow teams to start using a rover.

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 2, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Slow-pitch softball rec

The persuasion is not inherent in the lobster.

by Joel D on May 3, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

3rd? I mean, a lot of 3rd basemen move behind the dish, can the opposite be done? I like Chiz, but having an alternative plan would be nice.

"Spring Training wins are good for the soul."

by USSChoo on May 2, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brandon Inge is a catcher-turned-third baseman. Of course, he was a terrible catcher, so…

by ameliorate on May 2, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

So is Chen! Perfect.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on May 2, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe we’ve nailed it.

"Spring Training wins are good for the soul."

by USSChoo on May 3, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

For the first time since 2007, I’ve paid next to no attention to minor league box scores. Hopefully, I can continue to rely on people like you while replaying Hamilton home run calls over and over.

by FredOx on May 2, 2011 10:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Happy to do it. It is also the most interesting crop of minor leaguers we have had in some time.

by APV on May 2, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I went to the Lake County game yesterday here in Lansing and Carlos Moncrief hit a home run to lead off the game that almost left the stadium completely. He absolutely destroyed it.

by NickFantana on May 2, 2011 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

How did he look in CF? He seems to have the speed to stay there. Stole a base yesterday, I think?

by mcrose on May 2, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he looked plenty fast on the steal.

Not too many plays for him in center. The one that sticks out was that he chased a gapper in right center and unleashed a gigantic throw to the shortstop to prevent the hitter stretching it to a triple.

He also had a pretty gigantic baserunning error on a line drive right at the third baseman. He was on first and just took off. He was standing on second when the first basemen caught the ball doubling him up.

Cole Cook also was not bad, good control, but it was hard to tell much, other than it seems like the Lansing team is pretty terrible at making solid contact or Cook is good at missing bats.

by NickFantana on May 2, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been struggling with months lately…

by APV on May 2, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the infield clog, Could we trade Everett for cash once Goedert comes back (early June) and promote Donald? I am against ruining the chemistry but what long term/current value does Everett bring? Could be more vaulable to another team with infield issues (Phillies).

Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic. - Robert S. Wieder

by jerseywahoo on May 2, 2011 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

What long term/current value does Goedert bring?

by Jay on May 2, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Goedert is all but stuck. He’s behind a lot of guys, but already rostered. I’d imagine they’ll burn through his 3 options while better players solidify major league spots.

by 7foot3 on May 2, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’m still surprised they didn’t work out a trade with the pirates for rodriguez.

i’m not personally giving up on valbuena.

i’m not sure i can figure what the kind of return on one of these guys should be. i feel like they’d deal for low minors talent rather than something for the big club.

i’m pretty sure my next sentence starts with i’m.

by Brick. on May 2, 2011 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Are we ok with Valbuena playing short some days out of the utility spot? I’m under the impression that the entirety of our infield battalion is underwhelming defensively at shortstop.

by 7foot3 on May 2, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

How valuable is Kipnis as our future at 2nd? Would it be crazy to deal him for an MLB starter that presented an upgrade over Tomlin/Talbot/Gomez and rely on one of Donald/Phelps/Valbuena to be an average 2nd baseman over the next 3-4 years?

I guess it may come down to who we could get in return. Shields? Niemann?

by TKilbane on May 2, 2011 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

interesting… how long is Shields signed for? If it’s just this year, I feel like we’d shoot higher.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on May 2, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shields would cost a bunch (ala Grady), from Cot’s:

2011: $4.25M
2012: $7.0M club option ($2M buyout)
2013: $9.0M club option ($1.5M buyout)
2014: $12.0M club option ($1M buyout)

by talonk on May 2, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

As long as we don’t get the 2010 Shields.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on May 2, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those options are better than anything we’d get on the FA market for a pitcher of his caliber. I suspect it would take more than Kipnis though.

by TKilbane on May 3, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t imagine a potentially good 2B could have enough greater value than a starter to make this crazy.

by 9James on May 3, 2011 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, one of my favorite Indians MiLB lines of the week was Chisenhall with a double and HR off Mike Minor. Both because he’s one of the best pitchers in the minors and because he’s left handed.

by TKilbane on May 2, 2011 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Chen knocks a first-inning RBI double, scoring Jordan Henry.

by APV on May 2, 2011 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

How long do you think it will be until somebody replaces Everett? I hop Jason Donald comes up soon and takes a few ABs away from both Cabrera and Hannahan.

by clefan on May 2, 2011 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

One of the veterans has to play themselves completely off the team before they mess with the roster, I think.

"Spring Training wins are good for the soul."

by USSChoo on May 3, 2011 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

play themselves completely off the team

That sounds to me like playing atrociously, and in that case, I disagree. This is a competitive year for the Indians as of right now, so if Donald looks like an obvious upgrade I think we’ll see him in the major league infield. I have loved Hannahan so much, that I really wonder about Donald vs. Orlando

by 9James on May 3, 2011 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

USSChoo is right…pay attention to what the players and what Acta say about Cabrera. Nothing is happening short-term. The only way Cabrera loses significant at-bats is either due to a) injury, b) the Tribe falls out of contention, or c) his OBP falls so far below .300 that they really have no choice. At his and the team’s current production level, there is no way he loses at bats to Donald or really anyone else. Whether or not we as fans think Cabrera makes too many outs or that his range isn’t very good at 2B.

by TribeJay on May 3, 2011 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m a Donald fan, but I don’t see him as an obvious upgrade anywhere on the current roster.

by Jay on May 3, 2011 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

the thing about everett is you don’t give a crap if he rots on the bench bat-wise and comes in as a great glove sub. donald you don’t want to do the former at this stage in his career and doesn’t sound like he can do the latter as well.

by Brick. on May 3, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Scott Barnes… yikes, gave up 4 HR’s tonight. Then again, Columbus scored 18 runs. We have got to flip Valbuena or Donald.

by cheech99 on May 2, 2011 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

30 runs total in the game…seems like one of those ones you can put an asterisk next to

by APV on May 2, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I knew that Andy Sonnanstine wouldn’t disappoint. He also has given up two to Ben Francisco in the same game, which should count as four.

"Spring Training wins are good for the soul."

by USSChoo on May 3, 2011 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Watching BenFran go up against Sonnanstine was pretty fun.

by ahowie on May 3, 2011 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not many get the chance

by 9James on May 3, 2011 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess this is just way too subtle.

by Jay on May 3, 2011 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, I got it. Very nicely done.

by MooneysRebellion on May 3, 2011 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, to be fair, it’s only happened 985 times in the big leagues. Things don’t really start to sink in until quadruple digits.

Fewest batters faced to give up 4 HR: 5, Pat Mahomes in 2001.

by FredOx on May 3, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

PS I got the real joke, too. I just wanted to point out the talent required to give up 4 homers in 5 tries.

by FredOx on May 3, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I got it now. I’ll jump at any occasion to throw around a Sonnanstine reference. I can’t help it.

"Spring Training wins are good for the soul."

by USSChoo on May 3, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I finally got it.

by Matt Y. on May 3, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think others are catching on that this is really a statement vs. an opinion…

by TribeJay on May 3, 2011 7:53 AM EDT reply actions  

reply fail – should be a reply to Jay’s comment about Nobody.

by TribeJay on May 3, 2011 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Michael Goodnight with a great start for LC today (6IP, 1H, 1R, 2BB, 10K). Carlos Moncrief had two more hits, including a double (10).

by APV on May 3, 2011 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Moncrief, by the way, has an organization-leading 16 XBHs

by APV on May 3, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

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