Balls In Play: May 2
It appears that our long nightmare of horrible Indians coverage on FanGraphs has come to an end, or at least to a respite. Evidently, the Indians are now a big enough story to attract their A-List contributors (and let's just admit it, that means the Seattle guys plus Szymborski), so we no longer have to endure error-riddled, sloppy analysis from some ass-clown Yankees blogger. If so, that alone may be the second-best thing to happen in Indians media this year (trailing the "Hammy overlay" feature of course). Let's take a look.
FanGraphs: Jack Hannahan’s Crazy April
So far this year, Hannahan is hitting .529/.619/1.059 against LHBs, good for a .684 wOBA. Yes, it includes a ridiculous .700 BABIP, but Hannahan has also shown legitimate offensive skills against lefties – four of his nine hits have gone for extra bases and he has a 4/5 BB/K ratio in 21 plate appearances, which isn’t easy to do against same-handed pitching, even in a small sample size.
He’s obviously not going to keep this up, but looking through his career, it’s interesting to note that Hannahan has actually hit LHPs better than RHPs, posting a slight reverse platoon split. He has only 250 career plate appearances against southpaws, so we’re still dealing in small samples, but his core numbers don’t change much regardless of who is on the mound. It sets up an interesting – and somewhat unorthodox – option for the Indians.
Hannahan was essentially brought in to keep the seat warm for top prospect Lonnie Chisenhall, who is currently performing just okay in Triple-A. Chisenhall is clearly the future at third base for the Tribe, but he’s not quite Major League ready just yet. His biggest problem? Hitting left-handed pitching.
I'm going to go farther and suggest that Chisenhall will not be our Opening Day third baseman in 2012, because Hannahan will be. Is this irrational exuberance for Hannahan? Perhaps, but I don't think so. I have drunk the Kool-Aid on Hannahan in the sense that I believe a legit major leaguer, albeit not the impact player he has appeared to be over short stretches. His defense is strong enough that he sticks on the roster as long as he can sustain a 700 OPS. Effective, cheap, and under club control for multiple years, Hannahan is everything we hope Chisenhall can be, and while Hannahan is unlikely to be a star, many feel that Chisenhall won't be, either. And anyway, as Cameron suggests here, why not make room for both?
Hannahan represents two positive, early trends for the Antonetti regime. First, the acquisition of what you might call neo-prospects (or perhaps "junior retreads"), players who have some big-league experience but have washed out for one reason or another. Guys who never reached their ceiling on the one hand, and who have minimal service time on the other. Turn one of these guys into a solid player, and the club gets to treat him like a late-blooming core player, keeping him on the roster inexpensively for four or five seasons, rather than watching him drive up his price with a nice make-good season and then walk away, like Bob Howry or Kevin Millwood.
Mark my words, among Hannahan, Buck and Duncan, at least one of these guys will still be on the roster in 2013, and possibly a second one will have been traded for something more than a bag of balls.
The second trend is his reconfiguration of the lineup to focus on infield defense, something about which some of us have obsessed for three years. Our outfield defense is arguably in even better shape, but that mostly has come together out of long-term moves. The infield defense, on the other hand, was put together by Antonetti in a deliberate series of moves that were seen as insignificant and even incomprehensible — our failure to explain Orlando Cabrera's signing was a full-fledged meme for a good week — and all three were short-term moves. Speaking of which ...
FanGraphs: Same Masterson, Different Results
In 2009 and 2010, the right-hander’s average on balls in play was roughly 25% more than the league average, which came despite a fantastic groundball rate. It certainly did not help that most of those groundballs came in front of the second worst defense in the league during the same period. With an increased amount of balls finding holes, his strand rate fell about 6% below the average of his peers.
In terms of the things he had control over, Masterson was much better. Both his FIP and xFIP settled around the 4.0 mark. Although his strikeout-to-walk ratio fell under 2.00, he allowed just 26 home runs in 309.1 innings – a byproduct of the insane amount of groundballs allowed.
This season, it appears as if the 26-year-old is experiencing a breakout. Through five turns in the rotation, he is a perfect 5-0 with shiny 2.18 ERA. Despite the improvement in traditional marks, Masterson is roughly the same pitcher he has been for a few years now. Masterson’s 2011 xFIP of .3.77 is slightly lower than his 3.87 xFIP of a season ago; the .10 point improvement, however, has little to do with his ERA being sliced in half.
... somebody noticed. When Cole Hamels posted a mediocre 2009 campaign, contrasting with fairly stellar results in 2007 and 2008, eventually a spate of articles noted that the fundamentals of his performance had not really changed. He was not as bad as he looked in 2009, and not quite as good as he'd looked before that. If Masterson continues to look like an All-Star, we can expect to see similar posts about him (in reverse of course), and here's the first. (I do wonder, why does FanGraphs insist on citing the win-loss only to refute it in every single article about a pitcher? Isn't it time to just start ignoring stats that don't matter?)
What may take a little longer is the rush to reevaluate Mark Shapiro's trades for prospects in 2009. And here's I'm going to pull out some fermented soylent green to make the point.
We won’t know whether this trade was a success for Cleveland—-I’m being as liberal as I can—-until 2011. More realistically, check back in five or six years.
Bartolo Colon was traded June 27, 2002. Two and half years later, at the end of the 2004 season:
Cliff Lee, age 25, just pitched 179 innings, gave up more hits than innings pitched, served up 30 bombs, and walked 81 batters for an unimpressive 1BB:2K ratio.
Brandon Phillips spent nearly the entire season at AAA, except gathering 22 ABs in Cleveland in 2004. This came after his horrible 300ABs in Cleveland the previous year.
Grady Sizemore posted a .798OPS in Columbus and a .739OPS in 136ABs in Cleveland. He was the hope of salvaging the trade.
We’re three months into the Cliff Lee trade. Save the reflections, as tempting as it is to take stock of the deal from Cleveland’s perspective in light of Cliff’s NLDS performance.
by xrickx on Oct 15, 2009 2:03 AM EDT 11 recs
This comment was made in response to one of those old, hacky FanGraphs articles about the Indians. If it seems painfully familiar, it's because since this comment was posted 19 months ago, several LGT commenters (including me) have been beating it like a drum. What xrickx divined here has become gospel to me; I call it the Three-Year Rule. That is, one can't even begin to evaluate a trade for prospects until at least three years have passed. And please note, I'm not saying one can make a final judgment after three years. I'm saying, again, one can begin to make judgments after three years.
Without going into a detailed analysis, I think the objective view at this point has to be that Masterson will be a significant contributor, Carrasco's upside as at least a number-three guy looks very much in reach, Hagadone has a K rate suggestive of a late-season debut this year, and Marson and Donald are providing some value to the current club as well.
All of this while emphasizing, it is still more than a year too early even to begin making judgments about those trades. All-Stark break, 2012, that's when this discussion starts for real. Masterson, Carrasco, Hagadone, Marson, Donald, Price — and don't forget Jason Knapp. I'm looking forward to that discussion, and when we have it, the point won't be that early critiques of the 2009 trades will have been proven wrong eventually. The point will be, they were always wrong. They were wrongheaded, built upon fallacy and nothing more.
We are, however, coming up on the three-year mark on the Sabathia deal, and if current trends hold, we'll be feeling good about that deal come July. Brantley never looked like an impact player, and LaPorta didn't look like one for very long. At this moment, the exact one-sixth point in the season, both have played like average major league starters, and that's what I expect them to be. LaPorta can be something close to Overbay than Konerko, Brantley can be the more intuitive and electrifying version of Coco Crisp. Perhaps more to the point, they look better now than their old Double-A Brewers teammates like Gamel, Escobar and Green, whom we might have acquired instead.
The oft-forgot Rob Bryson has been recovering from a fluke, non-baseball injury to his foot and will be back in Akron soon, hopefully building on a pretty stellar 2010 campaign. Is it enough to get two average big-league starters for six or seven years, plus a decent bullpen arm, in return for a Cy Young incumbent on three-month rental? For most any GM, sure, that return would be enough.
For the typical fan, however, that thorny question is answered with another question: Are we in first place?
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Everything was fine until that no talent ass clown started winning Grammy’s.
by cheech99 on May 2, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The other key point about the infield defense is the psychological element. You can’t tell me that pitching in front of four gloves instead of four chainsaws hasn’t hugely relaxed the pitching staff and bumped their confidence with attendant results.
Who is the organization’s best defensive second baseman?
by APV on May 2, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
If you assume Asdrubal stays at SS and Everett is not a viable starter, than I say its Donald. Although I’ll admit to not knowing hardly anything about Rodriguez’ glove.
Brantley never looked like an impact player, and LaPorta didn’t look like one for very long. At this moment, the exact one-sixth point in the season, both have played like average major league starters, and that’s what I expect them to be.
I think you might be overly rosy in some of your assessments (Donald and Marson are significant contributors now?…Why would we think Hannahan can maintain an OPS >.700?), but I think you are possibly underestimating LaPorta and Brantley. Brantley has reclaimed control of the strike zone and is not missing nearly as many pitches as the past two seasons we have seen him (IFFB% 8%>13.4%>4.3% this season). I still would not be surprised to see some additional power develop throughout the season. I think the change in LaPorta is even more striking. Last season he had one extra-base hit, a freak triple, to the opposite field. This year he already has two doubles and a HR that way. He still at times looks a little uneasy at the plate, but it is a dramatic improvement from 2009 and 2010. I think these guys both have the potential to be well above average over the next three seasons.
They’re performing a little above preseason expectations. If they continue this way throughout 2011, we might expect them to “break out” as they get closer to 27. It’s also possible, of course, that they will regress, that their major-league averageness has in fact been a small-sample phenomenon.
What I expect, though, is basically what they’ve been doing. Brantley isn’t ever going to have pop and will at best be one of the league’s more effective outfield tweeners. I may be underestimating LaPorta, but I’ll believe that when I see it.
I love the changes I see in both guys, but everything is relative, and both guys were TERRIBLE last year.
by Jay on May 2, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m optimistic because what each player has done so far this year is consistent with the skill set they displayed as minor league prospects.
by APV on May 2, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m thinking you’re under-valuing these two guys – not uncommon among Indians fans. I believe Brantley will eventually develop some pop. Like I said before I can see him hittin 20+ HRs in 2013/4. And LaPorta’s ability to squarely contact the ball is growing by leaps and bounds.
I can see both of these guys putting up OPS+s of 120 or higher with Brantley playing a stellar CF and LaPorta being above average at first base.
Gotta say it: Shapiro did a hellova job turning three months worth of FatBoy into major league talent.
Our best players wear suits.
by mauichuck on May 2, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That last line made me chuckle. 3 months worth of FatBoy.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on May 2, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
If LaPorta puts up an OPS+ of 120, he will be an average major league starter. So you are agreeing with me.
I see little reason to think that Brantley eventually will either (a) hit 20 HR or (b) play a stellar CF … let alone doing BOTH of those things. He will need to do one of those things in order to be an average major league starter.
I consider their averageness to be good news.
Last year, 11 first basemen put up a 120+ OPS, so Laporta would be safely above-average as a hitter. If he is playing good defense, as I think is the consensus in this forum, he would be farther still above-average.
I really like the way LaPorta has been handling himself around the bag, but let’s not go crazy here.
by Jay on May 3, 2011 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope that the “good defense” thing is not the consensus in this forum. I don’t think most here have seen enough of him to say that he is good defensively just yet. I’d say he’s not the worst in the league, but I don’t think he’s yet an average defensive first baseman.
he does a good job of picking bad throws out of the dirt
by Gradyforpresident on May 3, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know how much you’ve actually watched him this season, but he’s looked awfully good around the bag. A couple diving stabs, throws in the dirt, tags, not too awful on throws to second.
by Jay on May 3, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
What throws have you been watching? That nasty little short-armed toss to 2nd on the goofy Alex-Gordon walk-off-bag play was the grossest throw I think I’ve ever seen a major leaguer make.
His glove work is a nice extension of his athleticism.
You’ve forgotten already our many bad first basemen.
by Jay on May 3, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I unfortunately aren’t able to “watch” many of the games living in cleveland area without cable, so I really don’t have anything beyond hearing the games on 1100. I’m basing my comment above on some limited data in UZR so far this season, a couple games I’ve been to, and a couple games I caught at the bar or on Sundays. I will say I don’t have much problem with his “footwork” at the position, though I don’t see range standing out yet.
I never said Marson and Donald are significant contributors.
by Jay on May 2, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I meant to go back and fix that:
and Marson and Donald are providing some value to the current club
So Marson is a cheap backup who has had some nice hits. I can see that. But what value is Donald currently providing?
by APV on May 2, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Obviously none at this exact moment, but before getting injured, he was our top choice to be an everyday player at third base. Come on.
by Jay on May 2, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Inspiring Hannahan to bust his butt at third base every night?
by 9James on May 3, 2011 6:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for the insights as always, Jay. I really liked the point at the very end about how much hair pulling we did over the Gamel/Escobar/LaPorta/Green/Brantley decision, and how it looks now. Disappointing as LaPorta’s production may have been up to this point, hard to argue Shapironetti didn’t pick the right guys there, especially now that LaPorta has looked like a for-real major leaguer this season.
(I personally still have pretty low expectations for Brantley, but am enjoying being pleasantly surprised by what he’s doing this season.)
The one Brewers prospect who has really emerged from that incredible 2008 Huntsville group is catcher Jon Lucroy, who is hitting like crazy now. He alone looks better than the guys we got, but then again, we did acquire a pretty good catcher that same month from another club.
by Jay on May 2, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
It took me three minutes to judge that trade, and I haven’t changed my mind yet.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on May 2, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think Hannahan doesn’t even have to get to a .700 OPS to stick on the roster. Thats currently above average for this park this season. If he’s legitimately +15 with his glove, a league average hitter at 3B is worth about 3 wins.
Ezequiel Carrera had a bunt single to the pitcher, then came all the way around to score on a bad throw by the pitcher. Impressive.
by APV on May 2, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Chisenhall and Kipnis each single in the first…now 3-0
by APV on May 2, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Sadly, I do not think Hannahan is the real deal. He doesn’t have a great eye and is overpowered in pitcher’s counts, willing to chase balls out of the zone because he doesn’t have the ability to recognize and lay off junk.
I noticed the same thing. Eventually the league is going to learn his susceptibility to high fastballs and sliders in the dirt. Still, I’m loving what I’ve seen so far – just not really optimistic he’s any better than he was 3 years ago for Oakland. But considering what we’ve had at 3rd the past couple seasons, I may take it with a smile on my face.
Hannahan also doesn’t have the minor league numbers to qualify as a “neo-prospect,” at least the way I’m looking at it, other than with the glove. He compiled 1235 plate appearances over four years at the beautiful park 100 miles east of Progressive Field, and slugged .361. That’s not good, and doesn’t even sniff what The Chiz™ has accomplished.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on May 2, 2011 7:59 PM EDT reply actions
Effective, cheap, and under club control for multiple years, Hannahan is everything we hope Chisenhall can be
I think this is stretching it quite a bit. Every young player is cheap and under club control for multiple years so it comes down to the “effective” claim.
While there is no doubt that Hannahan has been more than effective for the month of April, he is a 31 yr old with a .228/.315/.358 career line. Even if you claim him to be a ~1.5 WAR/yr player based on defense, I sure as heck am hoping Chisenhall is more than that.
I guess the key is CAN be. I think we all expect Chiz to be a solid defender and an .800 ops bat at some point. But I think Hannahan is so good defensively that there will be no mid-season callup to take his place, unless three things coincide: he takes an extreme tumble at the plate, the team offense is laboring, and Chiz is lighting it up.
White’s callup demonstrates that this year will not be devoted to development – callups will be based on helping the ML club win games, as long as we’re competing for a playoff spot.
The point I’m trying to make is that Hannahan is those things right now.
We all expect Chisenhall to surpass Hannahan in the “right now” department within the next two years. But it hasn’t happened yet, and we don’t know when it will happen. He is not considered a potential superstar, and along with that, he may well not make a soon or prompt jump to being viable as a major league starter.
I agree with all of this, especially as it pertains to 2011. My disagreement was that Hannahan will still be the better option Opening Day 2012, or really even be that much of a factor.
Your take on this situation is interesting to me because it seems inconsistent in comparison with your usual analysis. I didn’t hear you saying anything during Spring Training about Hannahan as a potential option as a starter past even All-Star Break 2011 so it seems weird that one hot April would change this.
Frankly, I didn’t think he would make the team. I also think there are more positive indicators in his track record than he’s been given credit for, and I never bothered to look at that during spring training.
Another part of my point is contract status driving the decision-making to some extent. The Indians have some great incentives to let Hannahan be all he can be … up to a point.
The final element which has been undersold here is, even if you believe Chisenhall can reach an 800 OPS in the majors with a plus glove, experience says he doesn’t reach that point of ripened skills for a year or two. In the interim, he’s unlikely to represent much potential short-term upgrade over Hannahan.
Put it all together, and I think 2012 is very much up for grabs at that position.
by Jay on May 3, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
We thought this last month too. Not saying you’re wrong, because you aren’t, just that there’s a chance he can be a reasonably average hitter.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on May 3, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Jack Hannahan – Baseball Prospectus 2009: “…Hannahan was acquired at the end of 2007 as an emergency pickup … [u]nfortunately, Hannahan was more like the agent who shows up at the scene of your car accident and promptly bashes out your headlights with a sledge hammer for getting him out of his cubicle….”
I don’t know what to say to that..
However, the 2010 Bill James Handbook has three fielder tables purporting to rate fielders. In infield runs saved, Hannahan was 6th best in the majors with 13, in Infield Plus/Minus Leaders, Hannahan was 6th w/ +18, and in the Fielding Bible Awards voting Hannahan ranked 8th best – and he only played 613 innings at 3rd that year! Stranger still, he played the entire next year in AAA following these accomplishments.
Who is Jack Hannahan? All I know is the Jack Hannahan of April 2011 has been pretty damn impressive!
I did some research ~10 days ago on whether Hannahan was always regarded as a good fielder. From what I could tell, the answer is yes.
"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady
So why so little demand for his services? Why all last year in AAA? He’d be an asset even if he didn’t hit. Maybe he plays classical music in the clubhouse and won’t turn it down.
by LeftyCatcher on May 2, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
He’d be an asset even if he didn’t hit.
Yes, but unfortunately he has to come to the plate every 9th batter.
I actually love Hannahan so I hope he keeps his hot streak up as long as possible, but realistically, he’s pretty much Lou Marson at the plate, but he plays a position where most teams look for some pop in the bat.
A specific team with more pop up the middle than most.
"Spring Training wins are good for the soul."
I’m not 100% convinced this is true. And it doesn’t excuse having a black hole at a power position – you kind of lose the benefit of having great hitters up the middle when you have an albatross at a power position.
Of course, Hannahan is far from an albatross at the moment.
If I recall, there was an article out of Spring Training that said this was Hannahan’s problem. He was trying to provide pop from a power position (3B) and it was screwing up his swing mechanics and approach at the plate. He worked on shortening his swing and using the opposite field during Spring Training.
He might actually be a better hitter than past results indicate. Not great, but solid.
by Danieldelamaiz on May 3, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
(a) The availability of power at 3B is always overstated.
(b) The value of a great glove at 3B is often understated.
by Jay on May 3, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jack Hannahan is going to change the meaning of 3B as we know it.
by cleveland teamer on May 3, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I probably should’ve been more clear – I’m not referring exclusively to power, but rather overall offensive value. There’s no denying that Hannahan is likely to be a below-average offensive player no matter what position he’s at. The question then becomes will his bat produce enough to combine with his defensive contributions to become/remain a meaningful player.
I don’t think he’s likely to be below-average at shortstop. And by the way, he can play shortstop.
I don’t disagree with your basic thrust, but power is what gets most exaggerated in descriptions of “what you’d like to see” at third base, and power is the only thing really objectionable about Hannahan’s hitting. In 1660 PA in Triple-A, his average is fine, his OBP is actually quite good, it’s only his power that’s lacking.
That defines what I think he can achieve at the plate this season in the majors, and if that’s the input, his defense will in fact make him plenty valuable.
How many teams have the power potential in CF that we do? Now, how many teams have power potential behind the dish like we probably do? And finally, how many of those teams are on both lists?
"Spring Training wins are good for the soul."
Doesn’t really matter anyway. The better question is, what are our best opportunities at third base? Just because we have more in one place doesn’t mean we want less someplace else. We want more, more, more, everywhere. We want to exploit our best opportunity in every roster spot.
by Jay on May 3, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Now there’s another thing I want you to remember. I don’t want to get any messages saying that we are holding our position. We’re not holding anything, we’ll let the Hun do that. We are advancing constantly, and we’re not interested in holding onto anything except the enemy. We’re going to hold onto him by the nose, and we’re going to kick him in the ass. We’re going to kick the hell out of him all the time, and we’re going to go through him like crap through a goose.
by 9James on May 3, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec’ed it – loved the last line. Guess it’s pretty much true, but if even one out of the two was a bit better than average, we’d have much greater chance of being in first place.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
Regarding trade evaluation, we can make some judgments at this point in time, as far as who is integral to this 2011 start, and leave the rest:
From the CC trade we have 2 starters, Laporta and Brantley (btw, I can’t emphasize how important it is in trades to “only” get players that earn ML spots and pan out to be avg at their position).
From Vic’s trade we have a workhorse starter, Masterson, who has answered the question of whether or not he’s a ML starter.
From Lee’s trade we have Carrasco and Marson both on the 25.
And you can’t overlook the gold that the 3B turnover has garnered: Blake got us Santana, our starting catcher, and Derosa got us PRage, our closer. And, obliquely, Hannahan.
When viewed from the prism of this year’s start, right now at this point in time, the trades resulting from the post 2007 collapse have been integral to this year’s success.
btw, I can’t emphasize how important it is in trades to "only" get players that earn ML spots and pan out to be avg at their position
You mean, like Zach Jackson?
Geez, yeah. Can’t have enuf depth at 2B.
by mcrose on May 2, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
on Aug 25, 2008—Yes.
And to a lesser extent, Masa Kobayashi.
"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady
"And, obliquely, Hannahan." is going to be my new “And, to a lesser extent, Gimenez.”
Hafner’s has healed well enough for him to pinch hit tonight. And, obliquely, Hannahan.
by Brick. on May 3, 2011 12:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Depends what degree you’re going for. In my field, they pay you to go to school.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
In my field. they won’t even pay me once I graduated
My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw
And look at how. good is the grammar I learning
My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw
by Turkmenbashi on May 4, 2011 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The Cleveland vs. Oakland game is at 10:05 tonight, so obviously, it’s the free MLB.TV game. mlb.com
I didn’t know they put out free games. Are you serious!
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on May 3, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Your friend’s comment has been deleted, just FYI.
by Jay on May 3, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Originally no, I’m a Phillies fan first. I’m a big fan of Grady Sizemore and Carlos Santana (though he’s struggling), and I consider myself a fan of baseball in general. I’m trying to read up on a lot of different blogs and start to participate just so I can learn more about the teams, especially from their fan’s point of view.

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