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Game 45: Indians 3, Red Sox 2

 

The Indians flouted the odds, scoring two runs off Daniel Bard with two outs, and retiring Carl Crawford on a game-ending double play. You can't rely on types of things to go right, but it was because of Justin Masterson's fantastic pitched that the Indians were even in a position to beat the odds.

The Indians will face Boston's top three starters this series, and started by matching up against Clay Buchholz. The tall right-hander took more time to throw the baseball than Rafael Betancourt, which could have been his way of keeping hitters off-balance. It was more likely his mid-90s four-seam fastball that gave Tribe hitters fits. A lot of pitchers have been throwing the Indians less fastballs, but Buchholz almost exclusively threw either the four-seam fastball or the two-seam cutter.

Asdrubal Cabrera got the Indians on the board when he slammed his third homer in two days in the fourth inning. Cabrera has been on fire over the last two weeks, perfect timing for a lineup that's missing both Grady Sizemore and Travis Hafner. And, as we'll see later in the game, he's not just pulling the ball as a left-handed hitter.

Boston took a 2-1 lead when Carl Crawford took Masterson deep in the fifth inning. The Indians might have tied the game in the bottom of the inning, but Jack Hannahan was called out after he overslid second base in a steal attempt. Austin Kearns, who was at the plate at the time, then doubled, which would have score Hannahan easily from second, and probably even from first. But recently those types of missed opportunities don't come back to haunt this team.

In the bottom of the sixth, a fairly heavy rain began which last through the rest of the game. At one point, the tarp began to be rolled out, only to be stopped by the crew chief. At that time, Boston led 2-1 and the game was official, so if that tarp had been allowed to be placed on the field, there's a chance the Indians lose in a rain-shortened game.

Another caught stealing was equally important. After Jacoby Ellsbury reached first base on a questionable call by the first base umpire (leading to a rare Manny Acta ejection), the Boston center fielder attempted to steal second but was gunned down by Lou Marson. If Ellsbury reaches second safely, he would have scored later in the inning on Adrian Gonzalez's single.

Jack Hannahan led off the eighth with a single. Adam Everett pinch-ran for him, and went to second on a groundout. That was it for Buchholz; Terry Francona brought in Daniel Bard, one of the better setup men in the league. He struck out pinch-hitter Carlos Santana on high fastballs, but that didn't work with Michael Brantley, who made Bard come down in the strike zone. He took a couple borderline pitches for balls, then jumped on a fastball down in the zone, hitting it between first and second to plate the tying run. Then up came Asdrubal, who hit a fastball down and way over Carl Crawford's head to score Brantley.

Chris Perez lived on the edge yet again in his save attempt. He gave up (thanks to Choo's reputation) a single to J.D. Drew with one out. Drew went to third on a similar single by Jed Lowrie. Carl Crawford was now up, and the Indians configured their middle infielders at double play depth on the remote chance that Crawford hit a hard ground ball at an infielder. Crawford did just that, and the Indians doubled him up to end the game.

 

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via www.fangraphs.com

Highest WPA Lowest WPA
Asdrubal .428 Marson -.141
Brantley .253 Santana -.097
Chris Perez .155 Choo -.097

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Listening to “Cleveland Rocks” on repeat right now. AVoiding school work. Don’t care.

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 23, 2011 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

P.S. – Rage looks like he’s bound to blow a save soon. Looks like he’s lost confidence in his fastball a bit.

/objectiveanalysis

I LOVE THIS TEAM GO TRIBE WOOOOOOO

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
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by Turkmenbashi on May 23, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

He either can’t find the zone or grooves it right down the middle. He’ll blow one within the week if he keeps this up.

by supermarioelia on May 23, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

And we’ll still be in first if he does.

by ahowie on May 23, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

This, to me, is the more important point.

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 23, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

That or he’s gotten lucky in instances where he hasn’t had his stuff, and he’s bound to pitch like he is capable of pitching and in that case bound to get cleaner saves soon. Btw, he did blow one against Kansas City – I don’t think that was too long ago.

In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).

by V-Mart Shopper on May 24, 2011 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have the first one of these, along with “Tribe Time Now,” in my Chrome bookmarks bar.

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 23, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

well…that was a rather satisfying victory

by APV on May 23, 2011 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Acta now 155 back from Bobby Cox’s record for ejections

by NatiTribeFan on May 23, 2011 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Somebody asked if the manager ever wins by arguing with the umpire… the game winning out was called at first base tonight.

by 9James on May 23, 2011 11:32 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

A bounce-back start from Fausto tomorrow would be wonderful.

by ahowie on May 23, 2011 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope so, I’m going to the game tomorrow and would like to see Good Fausto.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on May 23, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Duh. Winning!”

Don't be afraid to fight for your rights!

by IBHMC on May 23, 2011 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Nope. Not letting this become any kind of theme this season.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 24, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Seconded.

Also!

Thirded.

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by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

We have enough terrible memes around these sports.

by ahowie on May 24, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

“Sports” should have been “parts”. Silly brain and fingers not being on the same page.

by ahowie on May 24, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was a great game to have on national tv, no?

Glad the weather held up too.

by emily522 on May 23, 2011 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

From the official AP write-up:

Pedroia, the scrappy All-Star second baseman, injured his left leg when he fell over second base while trying to go to third in the eighth inning.

If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.

by Cap'n Snegiryov on May 23, 2011 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

and the fading Indians respond in dramatic fashion

by Roger Dorn on May 23, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Which brilliant analyst called us fading? I missed that.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on May 24, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

There is a screen shot in one of the fanshots today of some ESPN app given a one sentence line describing the Indians as fading.

FYI, gte just saw you made similar joke in game thread. Didn’t see it until after I posted this

by Roger Dorn on May 24, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Try here.

"(We) did not generally despise those trades. We despised being in the position where we had to make them" -Jay

by stuart dean on May 24, 2011 6:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am want to rec this

"(We) did not generally despise those trades. We despised being in the position where we had to make them" -Jay

by stuart dean on May 24, 2011 6:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pedroia probably would have gotten the Hannahan grounder that Sutton missed.

by jhon on May 24, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a damn shame we will never know for sure.

I'm emotional about my glove...

by JimmyAB on May 24, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Is Sutton one of the many generic players we had at the end of 2010? I forget. In any case, it pleases me that Pedroia won’t play tomorrow either. Apparently he had a scheduled day off anyway.

by jhon on May 24, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. He was around for a little bit. Couldn’t of been much more than 8-9 games.

I'm emotional about my glove...

by JimmyAB on May 24, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

2008-2010 is still fresh in my mind, because I followed the club throughout those years, but all of a sudden that weird limbo period at the end of last year seems like it occurred eons ago.

by jhon on May 24, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

How can I go on?

In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).

by V-Mart Shopper on May 24, 2011 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not so sure about that.

by JulioBernazard on May 24, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose this reeks at least a little bit of bandwagon jumping, but Droobs has shot up my short least and become my clear favorite in these past few days. I think it’s been more about his reactions and demeanor than what he’s actually done. The dude believes. He’s going all out.

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 23, 2011 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

heavy accent there on list

by Gradyforpresident on May 23, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s an awesome sight to behold when a player is locked in at the plate. You watch thousands of AB’s of players failing, and then to see someone make it look so easy defies description.

Even his one AB where he made an out, he JUST missed hitting another double off the wall.

by Toxicadam on May 23, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

In my mind, you are wearing a large hat and nice, thick mustache.

http://www.zazzle.com/mistakebythejake

by emd2k3 on May 24, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure I understand, but I like it

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because you typed “least” for “list.” Read aloud, it sounds like an accent.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on May 24, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Asdrubal isn’t AL player of the week, I’m gonna bust up a Bud Selig pinata in my back yard after amping up on shots of Bertman Ballpark mustard.

If you squint just right....you can sometimes see the ghost of Andy Marte...playing dominoes in the dugout.

by Seattle Tribe Fan on May 23, 2011 11:50 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

When does the week begin and end though?

by supermarioelia on May 23, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question:
A) Ballpark Mustard
B) Stadium Mustard
C) Both delicious.

by Chemo on May 23, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorta C) but, truly, A)

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by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

2,000 miles from Cleveland? Gotta go with C.

I think Stadium mustard has somehow become underrated. I guess it’s cuz they don’t advertise.

by jhon on May 24, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I guess both of them are tasty enough. It’s just that the Bertman brand has the nostalgia and intangibles factors, since it’s A) what they serve at the stadium B) adorned with the Chief’s smiling face and C) the only one of the two currently sitting in my cupboard in LA.

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#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or D) I’m one of those maligned ketchup on hot dog types…

"(We) did not generally despise those trades. We despised being in the position where we had to make them" -Jay

by stuart dean on May 24, 2011 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea dude, Ketchup for life!!!!!!!!!!

by UnSafe 70 on May 24, 2011 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Mustard = blah.

I just want to believe.

by mjmarble on May 24, 2011 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stay strong, we will persist.

RALLY SIG

by USSChoo on May 24, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is it so wrong to like both on a hotdog?

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on May 24, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not if you ask my father. But he’d be wrong.

My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts.

by Ockus_NYC on May 24, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes being wrong feels so right.

by callmrplow on May 24, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always use both, unless I have only ketchup available. Never only mustard.

by Matt Y. on May 24, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, I’m the opposite. Sometimes I got only mustard.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on May 24, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh, you people

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I actually don’t mind ketchup on a hot dog, as long as a good spicy mustard accompanies it.

However, the ingredients of ketchup are really not good for you … very high in sugar and salt. Mustard only is actually much healthier for you.

by talonk on May 24, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

But you still have your dignity.

by haymister on May 24, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

oops that was supposed to be to your comment about not choosing to be a broadcaster

by haymister on May 24, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Makes perfect sense here.

http://www.zazzle.com/mistakebythejake

by emd2k3 on May 24, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t stand normal yellow mustard. Gotta go with a good spicy brown-ish variant.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on May 24, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mustard, relish, onions.

Ketchup for me is optional.

http://www.zazzle.com/mistakebythejake

by emd2k3 on May 24, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s not say things we’ll regret tomorrow.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on May 24, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

And the White Sox bullpen still blows the game?

by Gradyforpresident on May 24, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

and Ozzie calls the opposing first baseman Mittola?

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on May 24, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is that where that came from?

"(We) did not generally despise those trades. We despised being in the position where we had to make them" -Jay

by stuart dean on May 24, 2011 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

See here.

The situation was that Guillen didn’t want his reliever Thornton to face one of our righties, so he decided to take his chances with a tiring Peavy vs. Asdrubal. It didn’t work out well for Guillen.

Makes you wonder what he was capable of doing last season, had some fat shortstop not stepped on his arm.

by Jay on May 24, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

he’s fat?! But he grew that chinstrap, which led me to believe he had a well defined jaw line, and in turn that he was quite svelte!

by supersizeme on May 24, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Am I the only one that wonders when Ozzie is going to put himself into the lineup?

by DuffBeer on May 24, 2011 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I suspect many might have some fun post game quotes about the umpiring, amongst other things. As he lights his cigar. #mannybeingmanny

by supersizeme on May 23, 2011 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Short video of Tribe dugout’s reaction to game-ending gidp from MLB Network’s ballpark cam: http://twitvid.com/BNMQR

Not much but I smiled. Duncan’s reaction was enough to make it worth it.

by cozmeesah on May 24, 2011 12:13 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I just got home from the game. Just before Crawford hit into the DP I assured everyone around me that he is too fast to double up. I honestly think it took both the sharply hit ground ball right at OC and the waterlogged dirt on the first base line that Crawford had to navigate to make it happen.

by mainstreetfan on May 24, 2011 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

MLBN cited (and I’m sure I’m getting this somewhat wrong) that he only hit into 2 double plays all last season and tonight’s was just his second in 181 at bats this season. So, it wasn’t a likely scenario for the game to end on a DP.

I'm emotional about my glove...

by JimmyAB on May 24, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Red Sox fan behind me at the park said the same thing. It was the last thing I heard him say, actually…

by painaxl on May 24, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did his head explode?

by callmrplow on May 24, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Escellent game … and on national TV no less. Too bad we’ll get the top story, not because we won, or how we won even, but only because is is the DoucheHose we are playing right now.

Tomorrow’s another day, let’s get another W, win the series …… then think about the sweep.

by talonk on May 24, 2011 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Actually the game took a backseat to one of the douchehose tripping over his size 2 baseball shoes and injuring himself for the night.

by hans on May 24, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

The fear of Choo’s rocket arm probably saved us a(nother) run/game tonight on Drew’s long single in the 9th. It’s so awesome to have a weapon like that in the OF influencing the game.

by Toxicadam on May 24, 2011 12:30 AM EDT reply actions  

It also may have broken PEDroia.

by ahowie on May 24, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good point. One of those very important things that won’t show up in any stats, idiot or advanced.

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t be so sure that someone isn’t logging “holds” by outfielders.

I'm emotional about my glove...

by JimmyAB on May 24, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t that be a tad subjective? I’m guessing left fielders would lead the league in “holds” by a lot.

by callmrplow on May 24, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s a stat out there—and I don’t know who keeps it, because I’m lazy—that basically tracks how many bases baserunners advance on average in a given situation versus how many they advance when a specific player is in the outfield (similar in concept to those run expectancy matrix thingies used to evaluate how valuable relief pitchers have been). Obviously, this isn’t a perfect measure, because not all hits fall in equally (i.e. it’s much harder to keep a runner from advancing on a double into the RF corner than into the gap between CF and RF), but it’s not as subjective as leaving it up to the official scorekeeper or whatever.

If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.

by Cap'n Snegiryov on May 24, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

More needs to be said about Marson throwing out Ellsbury. Hard to imagine a better throw than that

by Gradyforpresident on May 24, 2011 12:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Absolutely perfect.

by emily522 on May 24, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

So awesome. Everyone’s contributing.

by JulioBernazard on May 24, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don’t really want to go to bed

by Gradyforpresident on May 24, 2011 12:56 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

The combination of the excitement from this game and the exhaustion/allergies means I can’t get any of the tons of work I need to do done. So I’m forcibly going to bed.

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I actually edited a piece just now. It helped that it wasn’t god awful but man that is some rare late late night work

by Gradyforpresident on May 24, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I need to do this essay, but it’s not due till Friday. Problem is, it overlaps with several bigger assignments that are due next Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday, respectively. I know I need to finish it soon so I can move on to other stuff, but I can’t force myself to work on an earlier deadline because I know when the actual deadline is.

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are you in grad school or undergrad?

by emily522 on May 24, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Grad

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by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

This paper is about comparing US to Europe in terms of land use and transportation patterns… in a five-page (max) op-ed/essay. It’s tough, because how the hell can you not generalize about two huge and diverse land areas in a five-page paper?

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Beats me. I haven’t had to think about Europe in years, and believe me, I haven’t!

Europe and the USA are pretty heterogeneous (the USA even moreso, I would probably argue, but only in terms of land use transportation).

Maybe there are cases where you have many residents on the periphery, as in American cities, but comparatively few jobs outside of the center? Paris? The European cities I’m familiar with have their Edge Cities, but they’re nodal places; I can’t really picture the limitless beige monotony and sprawl of, say, Phoenix.

Do the Europeans keep good transportation statistics? Do they have their NAICS codes? Where can one get GIS shapefiles and such?

by jhon on May 24, 2011 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Check out Brookings – I think they’ve done a piece or two (podcast available of the panel discussion maybe?) on comparing US v. Europe. And go beyond CUSE, look at the Metro section as well. You can, of course, mention the rail system in Western Europe and the low cost Airlines which have created a very different transportation system than the Interstate Highway system in the US. I’d go into the fact that a lack of emphasis on the car in the intercities (and consequential reliance on public transit) has further supported the rail links. Of course this is always changing, I heard a story on NPR within the last two weeks on one man’s fight to prevent a parking lot from being built in Rome. Something to do with unique ruins vs. the fact that there’s NO parking in central Rome. Guess who’s going to win that argument (as long as Burlusconi is in power).

I’d love to read whatever you write – it’s an interesting topic.

I just want to believe.

by mjmarble on May 24, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: statistics, I don’t really have to get that deep into it. The prompt basically asks us to respond to the claim of everyone’s elitist buddy who says “BUT UROPE IZ SO MUCH BETTER CUZ YOU CAN RIDE TRAINZ EVERYWHERRREE!”

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
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by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

UROPE IZ CHEEP?

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on May 24, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Europe is way more dense and Americans drive way more cars

by Gradyforpresident on May 24, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, this is, in part, the myth/stereotype/elitism I’m trying to at least partially dispel. Yes, that’s true, to some extent, but let’s not pretend Europeans don’t love them some cars too. It’s just more expensive to drive there too.

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure how that’s an elitist statement. They’re both factual

by Gradyforpresident on May 24, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, but the issue seems to be the reason for the behavior. Elitist may not be the right word, but there are alot of factors that contribute to the this beyond preference.

by tflannery on May 24, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but a lot of times these sorts of statements are made by people who only visit urban cores in Europe and, therefore, don’t see/understand that many (most?) Europeans live and work in suburbs just like Americans. Furthermore, these statements are often made by people living in US suburbs who visit Europe. They don’t get that they’ve made a choice to live where public transit is inefficient or not viable when they could be living in a more transit-friendly urban core.

So there are a lot of “self-selection” biases, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t real differences, too. Europe, in general, is denser and thus can more easily support transit. Concurrent to the land use characteristics, there are economic factors like high gas prices/taxes, congestion charges, etc. that make driving relatively more expensive than in the US. Parking in Europe is more expensive and more scarce. All these things lead to a system where transit can more easily thrive and more people are inclined to ride it.

In conclusion, I’d say it’s about 70% “real” factors and 30% selection bias. I see two major themes that emerge:

1. You can’t generalize. Each land mass has cities that run the gamut from dense to sparse, concentrated to sprawling. Transit ridership is very high in some US cities, very low in some Euro cities. In short, the “US vs. Europe” comparison is trite and meaningless as a generalization.

2. There are real deficiencies in terms of American transit which I believe can be partially solved through concurrent land use/pricing schemes. However despite these deficiencies, many Americans live blissfully unaware of the transit options offered to them and are far to quick to cite Europe’s superiority without examining the costs of their own behavior.

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last para should say “too quick.” Sorry, I typed that… um, too quickly.

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by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Houston, the third largest city in the USA has really, really, poor mass transit. It’s a concious choice by those folks.

Our best players wear suits.

by mauichuck on May 24, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right, and it’s because driving and land are so cheap there (relatively) so there’s no incentive to travel any other way.

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hidden subsidies and incentives are influences here. Not always free-spirited choices.

by jhon on May 24, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh absolutely. People have no idea how much driving is subsidized here.

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

And of course, parking (and therefore driving).

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
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by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Massively so, and it’s placed this country way behind competitors in the early 21st century

by Gradyforpresident on May 24, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s debatable. Let’s not forgot what an economic boon the highway system was.

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Err. Yes, it was. But going forward it’s a fundamental lack of infrastructure that will diminish the country’s ability to compete

by Gradyforpresident on May 25, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right of way issues are a big impediment to trains here.

In Europe, they still do most shipping by truck, not train. Here, it’s a more even distribution, so most rail lines are used for freight.

http://www.zazzle.com/mistakebythejake

by emd2k3 on May 24, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Congestion charges baby, and higher parking costs! woo

by Gradyforpresident on May 24, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woo

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on May 24, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love these random digressions.

"(We) did not generally despise those trades. We despised being in the position where we had to make them" -Jay

by stuart dean on May 24, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is exactly how I am.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on May 24, 2011 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a terrible affliction, no? Sometime I wish I just had a personal drill sergeant.

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like to think I’m pretty good at it and would actually end up performing worse with less pressure.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on May 24, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well yeah, that’s what I mean. More pressure, the better I perform. This isn’t enough pressure.

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grad school swag.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on May 24, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I heard something about this being the worst allergy season in some time. I’ve been coughing like crazy off and on for the past couple weeks with no other symptoms. I usually don’t have terrible allergic reactions.

by ahowie on May 24, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I live in one of the worst places for people with allergies. It’s a blast.

by emily522 on May 24, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haven’t had allergies since I left Cleveland four years ago, but I stayed at a buddy’s place who has a dog a few weeks back and I think it lit something up.

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Me too. But with a few more hours of trial prep to work on.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on May 24, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

aren’t you in college? i wouldn’t expect you to be anywhere near sleep. or maybe that was just my sleeping habits.

by Gradyforpresident on May 24, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am. I’ve been so tired, but I can’t go to sleep earlier than like 11:30 or midnight unless I am sick or something.

by emily522 on May 24, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m in college, but have work at 9:00am every day, so I’m usually in bed around midnight.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on May 24, 2011 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m about to catch up on last night’s The Killing episode and then watch the pilot for Game of Thrones because I’m jacked up too (also a college student with terrible sleeping habits).

by ahowie on May 24, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

From the AP report on the game -

The win was the Indians’ eighth in their last at-bat at home this season.

“It’s kind of what we do,” Masterson said with a shrug.

Such a sweet quote.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on May 24, 2011 1:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Changing my quote from earlier...

"Duh, Winning. It’s kind of what we do."

Don't be afraid to fight for your rights!

by IBHMC on May 24, 2011 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Everything about this post makes me cringe.

by ahowie on May 24, 2011 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on May 24, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, that was so six weeks ago.

by Jay on May 24, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll admit I used the “#winning” at the beginning of the season, but now it’s kind of old. And it probably should have never started.

by emily522 on May 24, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone thought it was cute for a hot minute. The fact that some people are still using it daily is just sad.

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the phrase “hot minute.” I am almost completely unsure the difference between one of those and a normal minute.

by Brad D on May 24, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our problem wasn’t that there was too little of that quote.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 24, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If you want a good laugh, go read the OTM game thread. A combination of constant Yankee updates and looking down their noses at flyover country.

by OPace on May 24, 2011 1:35 AM EDT reply actions  

They refer to Hannahan as “Joel”. I’m not sure I can even blame them for getting his name wrong.

by ahowie on May 24, 2011 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

And they’re thrown off by Asdrubal’s name in the recap comments.

by ahowie on May 24, 2011 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thats funny.

In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).

by V-Mart Shopper on May 24, 2011 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

OTM respects us.

by jhon on May 24, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

The mods, at least. Can’t speak for the minions.

by jhon on May 24, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Guessing how they call everyone in Cleveland ugly and unempolyed, I say no

by OPace on May 24, 2011 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone I’ve met from Boston has movie-star looks.

by ahowie on May 24, 2011 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Women in CLE >>>>> Women in BOS

by JulioBernazard on May 24, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Legit LOL

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

This completely destroyed me

"(We) did not generally despise those trades. We despised being in the position where we had to make them" -Jay

by stuart dean on May 24, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

The college age population in Boston can be good, but the natives are not.

by Roger Dorn on May 24, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just stay away from the Southies

"(We) did not generally despise those trades. We despised being in the position where we had to make them" -Jay

by stuart dean on May 24, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

unless you’re looking to get shanked.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on May 24, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

You might enjoy a couple of the comments from their recap thread.

by 9James on May 24, 2011 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like comment #3

I know we don’t suck,
but boy sometimes you gotta wonder.

by Sean O on May 24, 2011 1:25 AM EDT reply actions

by APV on May 24, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know how he feels.

by Jay on May 24, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

2008, ladies and gentlemen!

by afh4 on May 24, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

His team will probably still be right around the top as the season ends. The good news? Pedro doesn’t pitch here any more.

by MTF on May 24, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s crap like that that makes me want to avoid sutesy little things like PEDroia, DoucheHose, and Jackasses, even though they may be perfectly applicable. Replacing the names of your opponents with clever little nicknames and then riding them into the ground rarely bolsters the level of discourse. Just makes it sounds like the dude set down his Natty Ice, got the attention of everyone in the room who responds to “brah,” and then slew them with his latest witticism.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on May 24, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I wish you were on DBN.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on May 24, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rapelisberger LOLLLLZZZZZZZZZZZZ

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on May 24, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, making fun of him is always cool.

by JulioBernazard on May 24, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I tried. Couldn’t handle it. LGT has spoiled me.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on May 24, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

You have to have good filtering ability to last there.

by Roger Dorn on May 24, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe this is a good time to ask: What’s the idea behind “PEDroia”? I’ve never understood.

Are we insinuating that the little devil uses steroids, or what?
I mean, he’s pretty clearly never used human growth hormone…

by still ill on May 24, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to toot my own horn here, but…

Your question of the day in today’s game thread is which Indian, if you could choose, would you most like to step up to an All-Star level in 2011?

Oh, and for the question of the day: Asdrubal Cabrera.

RALLY SIG

by USSChoo on May 24, 2011 2:30 AM EDT reply actions  

well look at that…

we faced that rule5 guy in ST

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on May 24, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shades of Dr Cox

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on May 24, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and we’re not last in attendance anymore.

by jhon on May 24, 2011 3:34 AM EDT reply actions  

This is especially good, because I think we are close to last in games played.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on May 24, 2011 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

First game of the year for me (not counting last Sunday’s rain-out, of course), and I’m just now finally coming off the post-game high. My ears are still ringing from the noise of the crowd, my hands are still smarting from all of the clapping and high-fiving, and I have a few new gray hairs from that ninth inning. What a night, what a game, and what a TEAM.

LGT.

--
Wahoo Baseball, baby!

by vbc3 on May 24, 2011 4:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Great to be able to watch it on the big screen for a change and not knowing the score!

One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play

by new zealand tribe fan on May 24, 2011 7:01 AM EDT reply actions  

“This is where the Q-Tip goes!” – Manny Acta, 8th inning, Monday

by RobertCD on May 24, 2011 7:35 AM EDT reply actions  

I believe the Indians flouted the odds instead of flaunting them. Writers very often use both of these words incorrectly.

Fewer.

"I’ll happily embrace elevated hopes if that is the price to pay." - APV

On Twitter at @grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on May 24, 2011 8:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Also, Santana popped out as a PH. He didn’t strike out.

by JulioBernazard on May 24, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Clearly Ryan wrote that recap while drunk (on baseball). Ryan, read it again.

by FredOx on May 24, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah .. still a few errors up there

because of Justin Masterson’s fantastic pitched that

needs game after pitched.

Jack Hannahan led off the eighth with a single, and went to second on a groundout.

Everett pinch ran for him.

by talonk on May 24, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

he slammed his three homer

by Matt Y. on May 24, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

his three third homer in two days
At that time, Boston led 2-1, and if the game was official,

by JulioBernazard on May 24, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

All fixed. Thanks.

by Ryan on May 24, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice work, as always, on the recaps.

by JulioBernazard on May 24, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

By my count, the Indians are 11-7 in games decided by one run.

by 9James on May 24, 2011 8:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Did they ever officially put the game on ESPN2 because I kept checking and all they had on their was Sports Center???

by UnSafe 70 on May 24, 2011 8:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Not sure, my feed was the same way.

Could they have moved it to another ESPN channel? I didn’t check.

by Toxicadam on May 24, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, it was on ESPN2.

by barsham on May 24, 2011 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Where do you live? I live 20 miles north of Pittsburgh and every time the tribe is on one of the ESPN channels it gets blocked like this. I assume it means I am too close to Cleveland but not close enough to Cleveland to get STO. Kind of sucks for me.

by fivekmd on May 24, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you are near the Cleveland market the game is blacked out. It was on STO, in that case.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 24, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Beautiful game. Manny Acta… Wahw! Getting tossed in the 8th seemed to fire up the damp crowd. I started to hear the “Red Sox Suck” chant louder after that point, and the mood in the stadium began to get nasty for Boston. It’s like the crowd didn’t care what pitchers were in the bullpen; the Indians were going to win.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on May 24, 2011 8:35 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I usually watch a bit of Cleveland’s Channel 8 news in the morning while getting dressed, but when I turned on the bedroom tv this morning it was still on STO, and Brantley was up with a 1-0 count in the 8th inning on the STO Breakfast Replay.

I sat down and watched it with the same enjoyment as last night in real time.

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on May 24, 2011 8:46 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

LaPorta looked bad last night at the plate. He needs to have a big game or two in the upcoming weeks.

by Toxicadam on May 24, 2011 8:58 AM EDT reply actions  

He looked downright awful. Something has to click soon for him. He’s brought the average up but not in any fantastic, Choo-esque way.

RALLY SIG

by USSChoo on May 24, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Buchholz may have had something to do with it. We need to get out of the panic mode when some of our guys scuffle and look bad against really good pitchers. Great pitchers often make even the elite hitters look awful.

"I’ll happily embrace elevated hopes if that is the price to pay." - APV

On Twitter at @grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on May 24, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s pretty easy to get caught thinking this way when you only watch your preferred team upwards of 100 times in a season. Especially if that team is the only team you watch even remotely that often. But you’re absolutely right, I’ll catch myself thinking that after someone goes 1-10 over a three game stretch. I’d say “It’s a long season,” but I don’t want to sound like the Seattle manager. As fans, we just need to bow our necks and keep grinding.

My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts.

by Ockus_NYC on May 24, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

A lot of guys looked really bad at the plate last night.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on May 24, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Every time I think that we’ll be punished in a way that no team has before (ex: Choo DUI) I eventually realize that I only think this because I’m used to it from Goodell. In this one very specific instance: HIRE SELIG.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on May 24, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goodell is an absolute fool.

by JulioBernazard on May 24, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

brilliant

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on May 24, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dear Matt Underwood,

When you yell “Abra Cabrera!”, it makes the moment worse, not better.

Why no Hammy call on Indians.com? Anyone know where to find it from last night? I’d love to hear the AsCab double and game-ending double play.

by tabler84 on May 24, 2011 9:33 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Awesome, thanks. Wow, can’t believe anyone thought it was a good idea to lay music under the calls. No reason for that.

by tabler84 on May 24, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rosenhaus home run call is poor

by Gradyforpresident on May 24, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rosenhaus really, really sucks.

My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts.

by Ockus_NYC on May 24, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

He does. I want to like him, but I can’t. He’s a mediocre color man and truly terrible as the play by play man.

by Brad D on May 24, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Rosenhaus despite acknowledging that he’s bad. I can’t explain it.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on May 24, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1. I have a total soft spot for the guy even though I realize he is objectively bad. He may be a crappy PBP guy, but he’s our crappy PBP guy.

by mrich on May 24, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not even that. Underwood is bad, and I hate him. There’s just something about Rosey that I like despite the fact that I can see why he drives people up the wall.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on May 24, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

He seems like he might be the nicest guy in the world. I bet he says “shucks” a lot around the house.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 24, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

“really, really sucks” was a bit aggressive. Mainly because he isn’t exciting enough to register that level of vitriol from anyone. I just know that I switch from the WTAM overlay feed back to Underwood and Manning when it’s his turn to call an inning. I just think he’s really boring and I don’t understand his presence in the booth.

My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts.

by Ockus_NYC on May 25, 2011 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Most are. But just imagine if we had a quality TV team. I’d take Corrigan back in a heartbeat. Anything is better than the status quo. Trying too hard understates it by orders of magnitude.

by tabler84 on May 24, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll put myself up for consideration. I’ve got a good broadcast voice and I’m young and like baseball and the Indians a lot.

by Gradyforpresident on May 24, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

George Costanza: What about being a sports commentator? You know how I always make those witty comments during a game?
Jerry: You do make good comments.
George Costanza: So?
Jerry: Well, they generally give those jobs to ex-ballplayers and people, you know, in broadcasting.
George Costanza: [pause] Well that’s really not fair.
Jerry: I know.

My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts.

by Ockus_NYC on May 24, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

reminds me of a baseball game I went to in Anaheim with my mom.

She likes to listen to the AM announcers while at the game.

Halfway through the game, she leaned over to me and said “Do you know almost everything you have commented on, the guys on the radio have repeated right after you?”

I knew I picked the wrong profession.

by talonk on May 24, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

My ex-GF used to call those announcer-kills

"(We) did not generally despise those trades. We despised being in the position where we had to make them" -Jay

by stuart dean on May 24, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

You should’ve hung onto her. Sounds like a cool gal.

by JulioBernazard on May 24, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I grew up thinking I’d be in the booth in Cleveland. For all major sports. I have to let some dreams die.

by tabler84 on May 24, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Then again, based on current quality levels…

by tabler84 on May 24, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t that be a career step backward for you at this point?

by Jay on May 24, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe technically, but a change of pace is always a good idea. Keeps you fresh.

by tabler84 on May 24, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

not for all of us though

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on May 24, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

What if he got the job and then we all hated him? That would be awkward.

by Chemo on May 24, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Let’s resurrect Jimmy Dudley

Our best players wear suits.

by mauichuck on May 24, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Call him at GA4-2323…

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on May 24, 2011 4:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Come on ride the train / hey, ride it

by JulioBernazard on May 24, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

they should have put the Marson CS highlight on there, I bet Hammy was yelling about it

by Gradyforpresident on May 24, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I happened to be in the car for that CS, and Hammy was ready to ask Marson to prom.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 24, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

God, seriously. Everything Underwood does is so cheesy and forced.

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

GOOD. . . . BYE . . . . BASEBALL!

If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.

by Cap'n Snegiryov on May 24, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shapiro never replied to me when I asked when Underwood’s contract came off the books.

by Roger Dorn on May 24, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you check Cot’s?

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on May 24, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

serious cringe when I watched the mlb.com highlight last night and heard him say that.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on May 24, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone from Wisconsin that I follow on twitter just wondered how often is a team (Twins) more games out of 1st place (15.5) than they actually have wins (15) this late in the season.

I love this.

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on May 24, 2011 10:14 AM EDT reply actions  

No pity for the Twins. They have a whole decade of good karma to pay for.

by Toxicadam on May 24, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s even sweeter now that they have one of the highest payrolls in baseball.

by callmrplow on May 24, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Instead of Mauer, their catcher has something like a negative 19 OPS.

by jhon on May 24, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

The SON of SAL?

http://www.zazzle.com/mistakebythejake

by emd2k3 on May 24, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe.

This team traded Wil Ramos—still just 23—for Matt Capps. And then resigned Mauer for a decade or whatever. Their pain is self-inflicted.

by jhon on May 24, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

For that to happen the first place club hasta win twice as many games as the last place club. So say your teams having an awful season – 100 losses – that’s 62 wins. The first place club would hafta win 124 games.

I like this concept.

Our best players wear suits.

by mauichuck on May 24, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

digging the day baseball on thursday

by Gradyforpresident on May 24, 2011 10:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Tthought we had the day off this Thurdsay. We start in Tampa on Friday.

by talonk on May 24, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s a noon start on Wednesday

by tflannery on May 24, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is off-topic, but we really need anothe soilent green.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on May 24, 2011 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m really disappointed that I missed this. I had to get to bed early.

I’m still ecstatic about the result!

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on May 24, 2011 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Here’s the recap from ESPN – Boston.

I only point this out to highlight the awesome response commenter Andynel88 posts:

Paraphrasing the article- "If not by sheer luck the Indians would not have won this game. The gods of fate conspired against the Red Sox to have Michael Brantley have an amazing AB to tie the game in the 8th and to have Justin Masterson, traded in an unbelievably unlucky move by the Red Sox to the Indians, throw first pitch strikes to nearly all the hitters he faced setting him up for very lucky success.

The luckiest moment of the night came when Asdrubal Cabrera somehow defied being completely overmatched with a setup pitcher and continued his fortunate odds in the hitting department and somehow hit for power the day after hitting two homers and a double (out of five total hits). But it’s just the Sawwx bad luck they had to pitch to him because by a stroke of fate Cabrera is protected by Shin Soo Choo, who was hitting an unfathomably fortunate .350 in his last 10 games.

In fact, if not for the combination of good luck of their opponents and bad luck burdened on this Red Sox team they would’ve won 125 games last year and are on pace to win 115 this year despite the unlucky losing streak to start the season."

Gimme a f#@#ing break!

I'm emotional about my glove...

by JimmyAB on May 24, 2011 2:51 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Interestingly, that recap on the ESPN Boston site was written by a Cleveland guy, Chuck Murr. I believe he used to write for Indians Ink, the scout.com Indians site.

by mrich on May 24, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Scout peeps, is JenniferMarie still kicking around Indian fan forums? I used to see her post here and The Cleveland Fan, but not much since 2008.

by Toxicadam on May 24, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

She was one of the reasons I stopped posting on the scout.com Indians forum years ago. She was completely insane. Thank god she never found this place.

by mrich on May 24, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

She has made a couple appearances here, but appears not to have stayed.

"I’ll happily embrace elevated hopes if that is the price to pay." - APV

On Twitter at @grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on May 24, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh. That’s why I asked about her (?). She was comically stubborn. It was fun to watch, but not participate in.

by Toxicadam on May 24, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Read this post.

I'm emotional about my glove...

by JimmyAB on May 24, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, it’s almost time for her to come back!

by Jay on May 24, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with anyone who thought that Marte was given more than enough time to demonstrate his Major League baseballl abilities. If you looking for “Who Ruined Andy Marte” you’ll be looking for a long time.

Our best players wear suits.

by mauichuck on May 26, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

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