While I was driving to school today, I was listening to the Tony Rizzo show. I heard them Talking...

While I was driving to school today, I was listening to the Tony Rizzo show. I heard them Talking about the possiblity of bringing back Thome. However, I didn't hear if this was based off an actual rumor or, simply their own opinions. I for one would love to see Thome back in Cleveland but, don't know if it is worth bringing in a 40 year old DH who would be yet another lefty in an already lefty heavy lineup. I was just curious if anyone else has heard this rumor and what your opinion is of it?

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by stuart dean on May 24, 2011 1:37 PM EDT reply actions

His first mistake was listening to Rizzo.

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by rolub on May 24, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions

I ask this in the most respectful way, but is there really any media source that is universally accepted?

by ClevelandCrazy29 on May 24, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions

During that time slot? Dan Patrick on Akron’s 1350 AM.

Rizzo and co. spend more time trying to be Jim Rome than they do immersing themselves in sports, or at least that’s what their opinions/analysis seem to imply.

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by rolub on May 24, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions

I listen to Rizzo for entertainment only. If you want any decent sports analysis, turn off the radio.

by Brad D on May 25, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

That’s fair, and I agree about analysis on the radio. I’m sure if a show aimed for that, they’d be off the air by the 3rd week.

I know it’s a matter of personal taste, but I just don’t find anything about Rizzo’s show entertaining.

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by rolub on May 25, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions

I like Fedor and Goldhammer. I don’t really care for Rizzo himself.

by Brad D on May 25, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions

Murrow.

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by USSChoo on May 24, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions

I would say, in general, don’t listen to the radio.

by Jay on May 24, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions

The Christian Science Monitor, of course .

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by Cap'n Snegiryov on May 25, 2011 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions

This was also discussed during drive time yesterday on The Fan in Columbus.

They were arguing Hafner wouldn’t hold up and the Indians would need another DH.

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by emd2k3 on May 24, 2011 1:44 PM EDT reply actions

i’d prefer Albert Belle.

by peter m on May 24, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs

Belle has a radio show??? Let me guess – The Joey and Albert Morning Zoo.

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by Spidey on May 24, 2011 4:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

The local guys on the Fan are generally pretty worthless. However – they generally run the national guys instead on the 1460 AM channel when they’re running the local stooges on 97.1 FM. Unfortunately, I think they run Colin Blowhard on both channels.

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by woodsmeister on May 25, 2011 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions

I can’t take Cowherd. I can listen to the later guys (Common Man and Torg?) but I do not take one darn thing they say seriously.

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by emd2k3 on May 25, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions

The Common Man and Torg are awful — two idiots who have no idea what they’re talking and do nothing but make fun of every school and athlete besides OSU and other teams they like. I do listen to them sometimes on the way home from school just to hear what they’re discussing but I usually can’t take more than 2 or 3 minutes.

But I can get ESPN radio through my XM so I listen to the Scott Van Pelt show in the afternoon (with Ryan Russillo) and that’s a really good show. Those guys aren’t like the typical talk radio hosts as they try to avoid the hyperbole and overreaction of most sports talk shows. They are one of the few radio shows worth listening to, and I usually respect their opinions even if I don’t always agree.

by Buckeye Brad on May 25, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs

agree, SVP is one of the better talk show hosts I’ve heard.

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by rolub on May 25, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions

I watch that on ESPN2 when I can.

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by notthatnoise on May 26, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions

You can also get Van Pelt and pals on 1460 AM after Blowhard is done. 1460 plays the national guys while the FM stations plays the local chuckleheads.

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by woodsmeister on May 27, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions

I didn’t know that, thanks for the info. It’s good to know that I can still listen to SVP if I cancel my XM.

by Buckeye Brad on May 27, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Cowherd is awful. I like the Common Man and the Torg, but you’re correct in pointing out that they don’t say anything that should be taken to heart. They’re funny and have good chemistry though.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on May 25, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m surprised that you find those two guys funny. I think their humor is mostly juvenile and idiotic.

by Buckeye Brad on May 26, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions

To me, they are like audio wallpaper.

After work, in the car, I’m not that into serious analysis.

Mistake By The Jake

by emd2k3 on May 27, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions

It’s possible this tells you more about Joel than about them.

by Brad D on May 28, 2011 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions

I think their humor is mostly juvenile and idiotic.

Doesn’t mean it isn’t funny. I’ve never even heard them, just making the general point.

by Jay on May 28, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Thome is at the top of the list of mid-year trade options. Heck, Minny won’t wait ’til the deadline to start unloading someone like him. And the bidding will get pretty high with the Yankees in the mix. Can Jim reject such a deal?

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by Spidey on May 24, 2011 4:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

What are you even talking about?

The only scenario in which we even consider acquiring Thome is if Hafner is out for the season with an injury.

by Jay on May 24, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions

I would assume most teams would take a similar approach. I can’t imagine many teams are clamoring for a 40 year old one dimensional player. The DH position seems to have changed quite a bit in the past few years.

by callmrplow on May 26, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Koobs?

by Roger Dorn on May 24, 2011 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs

by ClevelandCrazy29 on May 24, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions

it’s still funny.

by emil minty on May 24, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions

it really is

by The Grimace on May 24, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions

I wish

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by Cap'n Snegiryov on May 25, 2011 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions

Were they talking about him coming back as a player? Because Bob DiBiasio recently was quoted (or paraphrased) in a newspaper saying he would like to bring Thome and Vizquel back as coaches when they retire.

by TheDanimal on May 24, 2011 6:55 PM EDT reply actions

yeah I think this was what they were talking about.

by hans on May 25, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions

I actually know for a fact that is not what they were talking about. They specifically mentioned that it would be much more intimidating if we were able to bring Thome off the bench rather than Everett.

by ClevelandCrazy29 on May 26, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions

I’d certainly rather have Thome as a bench coach. He’s twice Everett’s size — imagine how scared an ump who made a bad call would be if he saw Jim heading his way!!

by peter m on May 26, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions

That’s true, and that’s the hard-hitting analysis I’ve come to expect from “The Big Show”.

I’m just somewhat concerned he and Asdrubal may have a tough time getting on the same page when it comes to turning double plays.

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by rolub on May 26, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes, but why do you not know for a fact that they’re idiots?

by Jay on May 27, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions

Once again, trying to be as respectful as possible, are there any media personalities that you personally agree with. Everytime I have seen a name brought up, it seems that you have a negative opinion on them. Obviouslly I realize that everyone in the media has a bias toward everything or maybe they have the objective to simply entertain. But, if we choose to listen to nobody, how are we supposed to get information?

by ClevelandCrazy29 on May 27, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Our own eyes and research?

by Gradyforpresident on May 27, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions

Absoultely. Who needs media for anything? If I want to learn more about power politics in Tajikistan then, hell, I’ll just hop on a plane and go observe it with my own eyes!

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by Turkmenbashi on May 27, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions

If politics in Tajikistan were conducted three hours per day, 162 days per year and televised live, then that might be a worthwhile comparison. As it is, however, if you want to evaluate Jim Thome, you’re better off watching baseball games and looking at stats than you are listening to anyone talk on the radio. Sports radio is almost uniformly worthless as an analytical resource. Even the best programming is more entertaining than anything else.

by FredOx on May 27, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Except that most fans don’t have the time to watch every game and look up stats on every player. People have things to do, and listening to the radio while you’re driving or mowing your lawn or doing other things is one way to keep up with what’s happening in the sports world. Sure, much of the discussion you hear on the radio is idiotic blabbering, but everything isn’t bad. You can find people who can have intelligent discussions on the issues. And there are people out there — reporters, former players and coaches, etc. — who are more informed on the issues than we are and sometimes it’s good to hear their opinions. I think it’s unfair to paint everyone with such a broad stroke and claim all sports radio is worthless. That’s just not true.

by Buckeye Brad on May 27, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Sports radio is almost uniformly worthless as an analytical resource.

You’ll find no argument from me. But, like Brad says, who has time to watch all these games? But i don’t listen to the radio either. That’s why I know basically nothing about other teams besides the Tribe.

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 27, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Well, here, here, here and here are good places to start. And of course, here.

by YoDaddyWags on May 27, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t agree with personalities.

I’m not sure that any Indians beat writer or columnist offers anything valuable in the way of insight. The best beat guy at the moment is Bastian, the best columnist is Pluto. They’re both good, nobody’s great, and everyone else is worthless at best.

Nobody is worth paying attention to on local radio. I had a couple nice chats with Roda, but he’s not that into baseball.

by Jay on May 27, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions

Bring up Joe Posnaski. That’s always a good one.

by Brad D on May 28, 2011 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions

I’d like to see them add an SP at the deadline.

by JulioBernazard on May 26, 2011 11:52 AM EDT reply actions

I would too, but what are the options?

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on May 26, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions

And, what are we willing to give up? Trading Huff and Beau Mills ain’t gonna do it. We’d have to be willing to sacrifice a desirable prospect or two to get a pitcher who could actually help — I don’t see the Indians giving up a really TOP prospect who projects as a starting player like Chisenhall, Pomerantz or Kipnis. Who do we have as trade bait ? Gomez? I’m not sure the players we’d be willing to part with will bring the pitcher we want.

by peter m on May 26, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions

We’re trading for contracts. The Indians’ policy has been that we’ve been willing to pay salaries of veterans we’re unloading in order to get better prospects. The inverse still applies – if we’re willing to add salaries, the quality of the prospects we’re giving up decreases. At least one, maybe two of the quartet of Donald/Phelps/Kipnis/Valbuena is expendable right now.

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by woodsmeister on May 27, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions