Game 46: Red Sox 4, Indians 2

by Ryan on May 24, 2011 10:59 PM EDT in Game Recaps

Jason Varitek had a very good game; the aging Boston catcher not only hit a two-run homer, his first of the season, but actually threw out a couple of runners. The Indians were trying to run every chance they got because of Varitek's poor arm, but tonight at least the percentages didn't reflect reality.

Wildness hurt Fausto Carmona and the Indians in the third inning, as a hit batter and a walk both came around to score. Carmona would give up four runs, but he pitched into the ninth, and at times looked very good. But Josh Beckett and the bullpen were better.

Ezequiel Carrera drove in the first run of the evening with a non-bunt single in the third, and Travis Buck took Jonathan Papelbon deep in the ninth. Between those two runs, the Indians couldn't capitalize on the few scoring chances they had.

Highest WPA		Lowest WPA
Duncan	.062	Hannahan	-.150
O. Cabrera	.030	Carmona	-.118
LaPorta	.018	A. Cabrera	-.116

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This must be the hangover of last night’s high. Time to take to the series tomorrow.

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by USSChoo on May 24, 2011 11:51 PM EDT reply actions

Was thinking the same. Last night seemed like a much bigger win emotional than the period of the season would dictate. Tonight’s loss didn’t feel like that big a deal, for whatever reason.

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on May 25, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions

Things do cool off and then heat up again, don’t they. Competition!

by madherb on May 25, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions

If this was your attempt at a joke, try again.

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by USSChoo on May 25, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions

More of the same from Fausto. He’s now allowed runs in 19 different innings this season. Thirteen have been multiple-run innings.

by TribeJay on May 25, 2011 1:01 AM EDT reply actions

7 K’s, 1 walk, 14 groundballs.

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by Joe. on May 25, 2011 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions

The comments about Fausto at Cleveland.com are unreal. I believe the phrase “insufferable bum” was used.

My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts.

by Ockus_NYC on May 25, 2011 7:01 AM EDT up reply actions

Why do you do that to yourself? I’d rather go to the NYC DMV without bringing reading material.

"(We) did not generally despise those trades. We despised being in the position where we had to make them" -Jay

by stuart dean on May 25, 2011 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions

Ugh. I’m still recovering from my last new license. 2.5 hours on line and when I finally got to the front they told me I had an unpaid parking ticket (damn zipcar!) from 2005 (this was in 2010) and couldn’t issue me the license until it was paid … and that they couldn’t accept my payment. I had to go to a different office, which had already closed for the day. But I did have reading material. So it wasn’t as bad as reading Livingston’s piece on bunting today, and the subsequent comments.

My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts.

by Ockus_NYC on May 25, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions

sounds like an episode of Parking Wars.

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by rolub on May 25, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions

there’s a show called Parking Wars?

by Gradyforpresident on May 25, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions

I love it, because I enjoy watching stupid people who do something wrong and then blame 8 other people but themselves.

Parking Wars on A&E.

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by rolub on May 25, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions

This

"(We) did not generally despise those trades. We despised being in the position where we had to make them" -Jay

by stuart dean on May 25, 2011 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions

Yes. That has nothing to do with my comment. My comment is an explanation of how, despite his positive numbers, his ERA is where it is. And, 11 starts into the season, it may be more than a coincidence and a real problem that he’s having out of the stretch.

The numbers you cite are good, but the two innings where he wasn’t able to make quality pitches got him beat.

by TribeJay on May 25, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions

Yes, it seems he has a men on base issue. Whether its a mechanical difference from the stretch, tipping of pitches, mental loss of focus or some combo is hard to tell, but its real.

The two biggest plays last night were the HBP and Carrera’s mishap. Leadoff man on is a big red flag for Fausto right now.

by mcrose on May 25, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions

Carrera made an ERROR, so those runs should have been unearned.

http://www.zazzle.com/mistakebythejake

by emd2k3 on May 25, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions

Agreed.

I'm emotional about my glove...

by JimmyAB on May 25, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions

eh, that ball was tough. Are you confident grady would have made that play? Would grady have even been in range to make it?

by gmfrodo on May 25, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions

You mean to misjudge it and eventually drop it?

by Brad D on May 25, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions

I wasn’t at the game, so I only have the television footage. Ball seemed like it sliced and dived something awful. The type of ball that grady, or most other center fielders, might well have misjudged and dropped, if he was even fast enough to get his glove there. So, yes.

by gmfrodo on May 25, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions

He did well against a tough BOS lineup. Kept the club very much in the game.

by JulioBernazard on May 25, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions

Still a winnable game for us. Which is a great sign.

by Toxicadam on May 25, 2011 1:23 AM EDT reply actions

A week ago a loss like this would have devastated me and had me convinced the shoe was dropping like a guillotine. But now, I’m just convinced we take the series this afternoon.

My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts.

by Ockus_NYC on May 25, 2011 2:02 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs

“Well, that’s every pair of shoes in the place. Unless you’d like to try the cruel shoes.”

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on May 25, 2011 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions

I know this is a Steve Martin bit, but the metaphor is completely escaping me.

My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts.

by Ockus_NYC on May 25, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions

Your shoe “dropping like a guillotine” badly mixed metaphor.

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on May 25, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions

Just because I didn’t pick up on it doesn’t mean it’s badly mixed. I miss shit like that all the time. But thanks for making me go back and watch some old Steve Martin bits on YouTube.

My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts.

by Ockus_NYC on May 25, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions

This game ain’t always easy
Simple, fair or clean
Sometimes that other shoe is dropping
Chopping like a guillotine.

I'm emotional about my glove...

by JimmyAB on May 25, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions

Hah. That…
Sucked.

I'm emotional about my glove...

by JimmyAB on May 25, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions

Put them on me.

by painaxl on May 25, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions

Realistically, Fausto pitched 8 innings and gave up three runs, with a miniscule WHIP and a lot of missed bats. That’s a strong performance. We need to win this kind of game.

by tabler84 on May 25, 2011 6:08 AM EDT reply actions

Sure, but Boston would say the same thing this morning. Hard to beat Clay and Beckett back to back. The Tribe played well, just win the series today. Gotta lose some of these well played games eventually.

by fivekmd on May 25, 2011 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions

Right, Boston feels like they could have won the first game, and we feel like we could have won this one. Someone’s got to lose, even if both teams play well.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on May 25, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions

Good Fausto….Bad Fausto….I don’t think it is a matter of which one will show up, they both will. I’m concerned with the ratio of good/bad.

by kedda13 on May 25, 2011 8:09 AM EDT reply actions

Ezequiel Carrera drove in the first run of the evening with a non-bunt single in the third

“non-bunt” needs to be used everytime Ezequiel doesn’t bunt.

by kedda13 on May 25, 2011 8:19 AM EDT reply actions

quote fail

by kedda13 on May 25, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions

Today’s lineup:

May 25 #Indians v #RedSox LU: Brantley cf A Cabrera ss Choo rf Duncan dh Laporta 1b Kearns lf Hannahan 3b Marson ca Everett 2b Talbot p

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by rolub on May 25, 2011 9:10 AM EDT reply actions

that lineup doesn’t exactly get me excited

by kedda13 on May 25, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions

Sizemore, Hafner, Kipnis, Phelps and Chisenhall please….

by APV on May 25, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions

Santana…..????

by kedda13 on May 25, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions

him, too

by APV on May 25, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions

So, after 1,2,3….we need to replace the rest of the lineup. Great pitching is a fantastic thing..

by kedda13 on May 25, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions

LaPorta can stay.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on May 25, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions

Day game after a night game. The catcher who started the night game usually gets the following day game off.

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on May 25, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions

Right. But this C can play 1B or DH.

by JulioBernazard on May 25, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions

Acta tried to give him a day off the other day and he ended up pinch-hitting and catching the end of the game. I think Acta wants to give Santana a full day off.

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on May 25, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions

I think we all want Santana to get a full day off.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on May 25, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions

That’s a whole pile of easy outs. Wow.

by tabler84 on May 25, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions

Manny doesn’t give starter X a day off on one day, and starter Y a day off on the next day, he gives a bunch of guys a day off on the same day.

Of course, some of those easy outs are the starters…

by Matt Y. on May 25, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions

It’s against a lefty, so Duncan and Kearns are less easy. Everett for Gramps and Marson for Santana makes sense with the quick turnaround. Let’s see if this lineup can score a few rurns.

"I just try and keep it simple. I could elaborate, but that would be ironic." - Jeremy Sowers

by Pa tribefan on May 25, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions

I confess to still feeling excited when I watch Duncan.

by tabler84 on May 25, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions

Duncan confesses to feeling a little excited when he watches cartoons.

My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts.

by Ockus_NYC on May 25, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions

He’s a big Dora fan

by APV on May 25, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions

He just reminds me of one of the Hanson brothers from Slap Shot. Like he’s playing with trucks five minutes before first pitch.

My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts.

by Ockus_NYC on May 25, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions

I see that, too.

by Jay on May 25, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions

Those watching may need to score a few rums. It’s 5 o’clock somewhere.

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on May 25, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions

who is going to bring the rurns, though?

by APV on May 25, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions

Oh – I read it as rums, not rurns. Damn astigmatism/sans serif font.

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on May 25, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions

Is Everett for Gramps really any sort of loss for us?

by Brad D on May 25, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Punchless.

Fear the Fedora.

by MooneysRebellion on May 25, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions

good time for a comeback start from iTalbot

by APV on May 25, 2011 9:39 AM EDT reply actions

iTalbot?

by Matt Y. on May 25, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions

Steve Jobs’ elbow gave out when he introduced it. The lights stayed on, though.

My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts.

by Ockus_NYC on May 25, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions

oh wow, is that true? if so I nominate Adam for a cleverness award.

by gmfrodo on May 25, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Frustrating game to be at. Felt like every time we got a runner on Boston’s pitchers really clamped down. I thought for sure that ball LaPorta hit in the ninth would be off the wall, but I was in the bleachers so I didn’t get to see how close it came.

At least I got to see Buck go deep.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on May 25, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions

Looks like there is going to be some incentive to pitch today’s game quickly…bad weather on the horizon and coming on fast

by APV on May 25, 2011 11:17 AM EDT reply actions

Sizemore out running the bases according to Bastian

by APV on May 25, 2011 11:19 AM EDT reply actions

The sooner we can keep Kearns on the bench the better.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on May 25, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions

Is it weird to anyone else that they’re supposed to be bring him back for the TBR series? Shouldn’t he stay off turf when possible?

by JulioBernazard on May 25, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions

And apparently running them one time with some vigor, only to run them a bit more slowly the next time. Bastian didn’t draw any conclusions from that.

by Brad D on May 25, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Somewhat (but not entirely) subjectively, I think this was “good Fausto.” In part because “bad Fausto” is way worse than this. TribeJay’s observation notwithstanding, I think the simple fact is that Fausto ran into a very good lineup and a little bad luck tonight.

by Jay on May 25, 2011 11:48 AM EDT reply actions