Game 79: Indians 6, Diamondbacks 2
Riding the strength of Carlos Carrasco's fifth consecutive quality start, the Indians got their first series win since sweeping the Pirates at Progressive Field two weeks ago. Arizona sent Zach Duke to the mound, a pitcher who was once considered a potential cornerstone of Pittsburgh's organization. Following his breakout 2005 season, many thought Duke might have the magic Moyer mix of smarts, guile, and underwhelming stuff (it's actually a tale as old as time, or at least as old as Jeremy Sowers). Six years later, Duke has to be nearing then end of his run as a starter in the majors and the Indians, thankfully, treated him as such. They scored on Duke in each of the first three innings and he was lifted from the game after just five.
For Carrasco's part, he managed to go seven extremely strong innings—he carried a no-hitter into the fourth and surrendered only two runs all day, each on solo home runs. Carlos matched his season high for strikeouts, fanning seven Diamondbacks, the same number of Yankees he whiffed on June 13. After Orlando Cabrera scored in the top of the first on a Carlos Santana single, the Indians never surrendered the lead and, for the most part, the game never seemed in doubt. Orlando had a big offensive day, gathering four hits in six at bats. The second star goes to Asdrubal, who went three for five with a double. Buck and Marson also had nice days at the plate, each picking up a pair of hits with a double.
Vinnie Pestano held down the eighth and looked like himself, striking out Kelly Johnson on his way to a 1-2-3 inning. Chris Perez got a little bit of work, in anticipation of tomorrow's off day, and started off shaky again, getting a loud flyout off the bat of Chris Young and walking Miguel Montero before settling down and popping up Ryan Roberts and Juan Miranda to end the game.
Overall, it was a game that felt 'safe' from nearly start to finish. Carrasco was clearly on top of his game and only once after the second inning did the Diamondbacks bring the tying run to the plate, when Wily Mo Pena stepped in as a pinch hitter in the bottom of the seventh following a Gerardo Parra double. Carrasco got Mo Pena (is that right?) to strike out on a foul tip, keeping the score at 4-2 and ending the last real threat the Diamondbacks would have. Insurance runs in the eighth and ninth innings gave Pestano and Perez a little breathing room to ensure the Indians left the desert on a high note.
After an off day tomorrow, the Indians will travel to Cincinnati for a three game set over the weekend. Following the conclusion of the BATTLE FOR OHIO (and the end of interleague play), the Tribe will return home for a seven game homestand. It will be the first games at Progressive Field since June 22. When you next see the Indians, they'll send Ace by Default Justin Masterson (2.98 ERA) to the mound to face the scuffling Bronson Arroyo (5.01 ERA).
Highest WPA
Lowest WPA
C. Carraco
.253
C. Carrasco (hitter)
-.091
A. Cabrera
.121
A. Kearns
-.058
T. Buck
.102
S. Duncan
-.032
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Great ‘recap’…could not catch the game at all, but this is the first place I turn after the box score. Things look a little rosier when we got a (temporary?) ace doing his thing, collecting 15 knocks, and have our other ‘ace’ going Friday. Hell, we might just hang in there. Ebullient for another day!
temporary(?) as in five QS starts do not constitute an ace — temporary(?) as in he is a young guy with loads of potential who is putting it all together for the first time but we have no way of knowing how long he will sustain this level of performance — temporary(?) as in hopefully he has turned the corner definitively. Does that clear up any wilful misinterpretations?
Did you get enough sleep last night?
Trombone/creamy/soda.
by Joel D on Jun 30, 2011 8:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think he got plenty of sleep.
Are we going to debate sleep and crankiness again? Because wow, that is a really interesting thing to discuss.
Wouldn’t “DocNo” be a perfect nom de plume for a lurking Hoynes, Shaw, Ocker or Livingston?
By the way remember today’s date as Livingston’s column was within field goal distance of readability.
"(We) did not generally despise those trades. We despised being in the position where we had to make them" -Jay
In fact I got very little sleep, but there is nothing to discuss about that. I am thrilled with Carrasco’s development and hope he sustains his current level. But I was simply in no mood for nitpicking. Cranky? Guilty as charged. A possible side-effect of being ‘ebullient’ the night before.
Mea culpa. Perhaps I should have simply said, “You seem cranky.”
Trombone/creamy/soda.
by Joel D on Jun 30, 2011 2:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Or perhaps speculating on mood is just poor discourse as a rule. If you don’t have something substantive to say — or at least amusing — then why feel the need to respond at all?
Mood is important. That’s the difference between firing off a comment because you’re feeling pissy and just being an ass. I don’t think DocNo is in the second category, so I was prodding at the fact that his initial remark made him seem really touchy. Above, he cops to the fact that he was cranky due to the prior night’s ebullience. Simple enough.
Trombone/creamy/soda.
Yeah… but I think Jay was just indicating that the comment stood for itself. I was asked — in my opinion unnecessarily — to explain myself and I did. That does not constitute being an ‘ass’, and thus mood is irrelevant…though as you now know, I was slightly irritable (deadlines…deadlines). But that is neither here nor there. I am often intolerant of what I consider to be weak arguments and so on, but rarely do I display that here…where in fact I am generally very positive, despite the monniker (it was an old joke). This time I just cast diplomacy aside.
Just in case anyone is wondering what I “really meant,” I really meant what I really wrote:
speculating on mood is just poor discourse as a rule
I think back to how I’ve chastised people for believing they can divine a player’s effort or character based on body language. Most folks here agreed with this media critique. But if you don’t think others can divine character from body language, how can you possibly believe that you can divine a person’s mood from plain text? (Short of overt expressions of mood.)
Speculating on mood never, ever advances the substance of the discussion. It nearly always antagonizes the target. Those two characteristics are the exact definition of “trolling.”
We are here for substantive discussion and to be part of a respectful community. Speculating on mood is the antithesis of those things.
by Jay on Jul 2, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, I wasn’t being malicious, I was just wondering what your definitive meaning was. Thanks for clearing it up, I guess.
Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.
I never said you were being malicious…I said you were nitpicking (or as we say in Flemish, ‘mierenneuken’, or literally, ‘ant fucking’)… you asked me to clarify, and I did. End of story, right?
yeah, I like that one.
The Flemish seem to enjoy them as well, as ‘commaneuker’ (comma fucker) is an idiom for a text editor, or someone who is always correcting grammar mistakes. I think we have one floating around here, no?
Looks like next Tuesday’s pitching match up is New/Good CC vs. Old/Bad (fat) CC. Though I can’t really get behind calling Carrasco “CC.” PTSD.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Jun 30, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
This sounds like a Dr Who episode. Past meets future. Worlds collide.
by MTF on Jun 30, 2011 5:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
in other news, the tigers are getting killed again 14-8 in the 8th. To be honest, the only thing about the Tigers that scares me is Justin Verlander. I don’t really fear them right now. They’re playing just as poorly as we are right now.
A team that does scare me though is the White Sox, who are tied at 2 with COL in the 8th
Any offense with Miggy in the middle of it scares me at least a little bit.
Any roadway with Miggy in the middle of it scares me a lot.
by callmrplow on Jun 30, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
You should be scared that it takes them less than three games to score eight runs.
by Brad D on Jun 30, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fewer. You should know better. Your mother would be ashamed.
Trombone/creamy/soda.
by Joel D on Jun 30, 2011 2:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I keep wondering why people think about the white sox. They’ve been garbage all year long, haven’t they? Or have I not really been paying enough attention to non-Indians teams?
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Jul 1, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
They’re still the White Sox; they won a championship with less than what they have this year. If they bench Pierre, they may win 10 in a row.
I don’t agree with your first statement. Their bullpen the year they won was fantastic and a big reason why they were able to win. Their bullpen this year ranks 26th in league (as of Jun 15th)..
Wait, they’re not the White Sox? Dadgum it!
by YoDaddyWags on Jul 1, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I guess Chris Perez lost his grandmother today? So, good for him, getting out there. I suppose. Wish him the best.
Steel Nick
And he flipped out on Hoynse on Twitter
My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw
by Turkmenbashi on Jun 29, 2011 11:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I like to believe Hoynes himself explains the short fuse.
Trombone/creamy/soda.
by Joel D on Jun 30, 2011 8:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 9 recs
Did his other grandmother go the day he chucked the ball over the center field fence, post game?
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on Jun 30, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Rage (after nailing down a save, but looking shaky) turned on the mound and threw the ball over the center field fence. If breaking a bat over your knee a la Bo Jackson is the pinnacle of awesomeness for a batter, this has to be included for coolest thing ever a pitcher can do.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on Jun 30, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
(Oh. Ambiguous question)
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on Jun 30, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Playing part-time appears to be agreeing with Grandpa.
@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff
Agreed. Is it due to splits, or rest?
by JulioBernazard on Jun 30, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Gives him time to catch his daily nap and finish up his crossword puzzle every day.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on Jun 30, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No – I’m seeing daily nap and racing forum.
"(We) did not generally despise those trades. We despised being in the position where we had to make them" -Jay
by stuart dean on Jun 30, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Personally, I’d have guessed a 582 OPS in every OCab split.
by YoDaddyWags on Jun 30, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
You neglected to account for Marte’s abandoned domino set.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Jul 1, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe I pay attention to local media to much, but I’m always expecting a move on off days.
Steel Nick
Don’t think Hoynes is going anywhere for now. Maybe the next off day.
@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff
by woodsmeister on Jun 30, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Dateline: Cleveland, OH
Associated Press
In a widely anticipated but still surprising move, local sports beat reporter Paul Hoynes was designated for assignment earlier today by Cleveland Plain Dealer sports editor Debra Adams Simmons. When contacted for comment concerning Mr. Hoynes’ departure, Ms. Simmons tersely replied “He knows what he did.”
Mr. Hoynes did not respond to repeated requests for an interview but posted the following on Twitter shortly after the news went public:
“{redacted redacted redacted} grandma Perez {redacted}!!!”
Though he will certainly pass through waivers without being picked up by another news outlet his prospects for even a minor league assignment appear bleak. Blogging pundits assume his days “covering” baseball may be over.
If you squint just right....you can sometimes see the ghost of Andy Marte...playing dominoes in the dugout.
by Seattle Tribe Fan on Jun 30, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I suspect the reaction would be similar to, though less venomous than, the Tribune’s statement when Mariotti submitted his resignation, which included the line “We wish Jay well and will miss him — not personally, of course — but in the sense of noticing he is no longer here, at least for a few days.”
by InfiniteMonkeyTypists on Jun 30, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Michael Cooke’s quote, and it’s a gem. George Trow quit The New Yorker after Tina Brown gave Roseanne Barr an issue to guest edit in 1994, and prompted this riposte from Brown: “I am distraught at your defection, but since you never actually write anything, I should say I am notionally distraught.”
Trow was a genius, but props to Brown for the nice passing (and parting) shot.
by YoDaddyWags on Jun 30, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Excellent.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Jul 1, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Apparently it’s the corresponding move to putting Chris Perez on the Bereavement List. Perez is in Florida.
Steel Nick

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