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Game thread, July 19, 2011

Here is a game thread for our July 19 game against the Minnesota Twins, if you would like one. If the mods put one up shortly, I'll delete this.

 

Matchup: Justin Masterson vs. Francisco Liriano

Lineups -

CLE:

E. Carrera, CF
O. Cabrera, 2B
A. Cabrera, SS
C. Santana, 1B
M. LaPorta, DH
A. Kearns, RF
J. Hannahan, 3B
L. Marson, C
T. Buck, LF

MIN:

B. Revere, CF
A. Casilla, 2B
J. Mauer, 1B
M. Cuddyer, RF
J. Thome, DH
D. Valencia, 3B
D. Young, LF
T. Nishioka, SS
D. Butera, C

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thanks for msetting this up..

that grampaberra AB was frustrating in the first, huh?

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

yea. But Laporta much more frustrating.

by johio1 on Jul 19, 2011 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I finally found the secret fort that is this game thread!

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

aw, man! alright, who told this kid?

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha. I shall never tell. That way, nobody gets into trouble.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I knew nobody did it!

by barsham on Jul 19, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very surprised one was not up, they are usually on top of it

by danmang on Jul 19, 2011 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I sorta suspected it was automated.

by JulioBernazard on Jul 19, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Masterson seems to be on it, so far.

by OscarDog on Jul 19, 2011 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

97 mph!

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bloop hits. Booo.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Good to see Masterson’s back to his ground ball ways today

by barsham on Jul 19, 2011 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Masterson be dealing tonight.

by JulioBernazard on Jul 19, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Found you guys!

One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play

by new zealand tribe fan on Jul 19, 2011 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Did you get lost by the old gravely road too?

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

He got lost in the Pacific Ocean trying to come over and find us here in America.

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

As it is Wednesday afternoon here I always have to dip back into the past to find you all

One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play

by new zealand tribe fan on Jul 19, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I see.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

So did we win on Tuesday night?

by barsham on Jul 19, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really wanted to tell you about Lou going deep…………………….

One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play

by new zealand tribe fan on Jul 19, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry…When I got to the fork in the road, I took it. It probably led to some confusion.

by barsham on Jul 19, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the map says “Bear left” and you go right because you want to avoid the bear, you might get lost.

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder who has scoped our Indians pitching

Len Barker Perfect Game Attendee

by PortlandVinny on Jul 19, 2011 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

out*

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by PortlandVinny on Jul 19, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yay, glad this is finally up.

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Strikes and ground balls. Sounds good.

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Liriano 50% strike rate early

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by PortlandVinny on Jul 19, 2011 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Can’t find the plate early. Let’s capitalize.

by danmang on Jul 19, 2011 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Liriano sucks; punish him.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Alright…Let’s go Carrera-Cabrera-Cabrera!

by barsham on Jul 19, 2011 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

10 K 10 BB very possible

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by PortlandVinny on Jul 19, 2011 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Just got here. Pretty pitiful lineup tonight, huh?

Fear the Fedora.

by MooneysRebellion on Jul 19, 2011 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Brantley has a stomach ailment.

by JulioBernazard on Jul 19, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

One look at the lineup card probably caused it

by barsham on Jul 19, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hm, with this lineup and Liriano’s stuff/control issues, I think I tell hitters 6-9 and 1-2 to never swing.

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Zeke woulda swung at a paper cup in that AB if Liri threw it.

by JulioBernazard on Jul 19, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Careful Lou.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

LGT! Bring him home!

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Is this the worst lineup we’ve thrown out there this year?

by tr1betime on Jul 19, 2011 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Definitely

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by PortlandVinny on Jul 19, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grandpa knows how to hit Liri.

by JulioBernazard on Jul 19, 2011 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Marson almost pulled a Fausto there, didn’t he?

by OscarDog on Jul 19, 2011 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Yep.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

(Subject line so that you can hide this)

That reminds me. Did you guys see this? I think it came from a few days ago in the Twins-Royals game.

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love it. Very athletic

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by PortlandVinny on Jul 19, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t press, Droobs. Focus.

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Ah well.

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

So will Mauer primarily be playing 1st base now?

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Someone needs to have a sign in Center Field that says “Ca_rera Country” (maybe with a picture of the Gameday field view underneath, with the middle of the diamond highlighted. But that’s optional).

by barsham on Jul 19, 2011 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Masterson looking great

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by PortlandVinny on Jul 19, 2011 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Says the guy listening on MLB Gameday Audio

Len Barker Perfect Game Attendee

by PortlandVinny on Jul 19, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lots of ground outs to the pitcher= good.

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Well at least we know that Masterson can field his position.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

CHI leads KC and DET leads OAK.

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Those are the moments when we remember what kind of power potential LaPorta has.

by tabler84 on Jul 19, 2011 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

He once dented a baseball. Oh and he has also had 4 HR balls in the air at the same time.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I sincerely doubt both of those, though I did once give up a HR that has shared air time with every subsequent HR.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve personally talked to Metcalf (his HS coach) and he told me the story about the four balls in the air. Said at one time there was video, I asked to see it but he said it was edited for news and deleted. LaPorta says it was three not four.

As for the dented ball…there was a picture of it in the local papers down there. But I never saw it.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it me, or is Kearns starting to square the ball up a little bit?

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

His OPS had jumped about 100 pts so far in July

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also OPSing over 1.000 this month

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone have a guess as to why MLB Extra Innings uses a fake audio call that sounds like pure douchebag for their ads?

by tabler84 on Jul 19, 2011 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

An a-bomb from A-Rod? That one?

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has catch phrases for every one when they hit a home run.

by danmang on Jul 19, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. And I hate all of them.

by barsham on Jul 19, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, they are nauseating.

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think calls that bad are capable of physical illness

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Jorgy juiced one!”
“The Melk Man delivers!”
“And that’s just the Melky Way!”
“It’s a home run from Robby Cano! Don’tcha know!”
“It’s an A-bomb from A-Rod! Alexander the Great conquers again!”

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Melky is no longer on the team.

by danmang on Jul 19, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just c/p some of the ones I found.

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, figured that.

by danmang on Jul 19, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. The ads that say, “It’s the perrfeccccct gaaaaaame” and “Fiftyyyyyyy”

by tabler84 on Jul 19, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never heard that one…

by danmang on Jul 19, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then you don’t get the extra innings package, because they’re on in every break.

by tabler84 on Jul 19, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing worse than the Teixeira call. “It’s a Tex message to deep right field. Oh, you’re on the MARK, Teixeira!”

by tabler84 on Jul 19, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s horrendous.

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Nothing short of Granderson.”

by JulioBernazard on Jul 19, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because the marketing people at MLB are shit

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m glad we finally got Mauer out.

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Masterson is cruising.

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

SWEET LOU

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

When he Ks is he Sour Lou?

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marson for President!

by barsham on Jul 19, 2011 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

…But only if our enemies are lefties.

by barsham on Jul 19, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

another one

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

WOULD OPPOSING PITCHERS PLEASE CUT THIS CRAP OUT?

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Ouch. RETALIATE!

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

SOAB. The player we have get hit in the face, I say the entire team charges out of the dugout and attacks said pitcher.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Do Indians’ players get hit in the head more than any other team?

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Bunt here with Zeke.

by danmang on Jul 19, 2011 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Valbuena to LF… cripes

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Or Gramps to 3rd and Hanahana to LF?

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hope not.

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Valbuena has played OF in Columbus.

by palcal on Jul 19, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ball rarely gets out of the infield when Masterson is pitching, so no worries.

by jayme on Jul 19, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know injuries are part of the game, but man, it feels like the tribe has been beaten up.

by supersizeme on Jul 19, 2011 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I think the Twins have us beat in that department this year

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

they’ve been battered, but don’t sell us short.

Starting 1B, CF RF,and DH (comprising 3 of the team’s top 5 hitters), and #1, #2, and #4 starters to begin the year have all been on the DL

by supersizeme on Jul 19, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

He win the silver medal in injuries

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

just in the last month choo up and in to break his hand, and now chiz and buck in the head

by supersizeme on Jul 19, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quit hitting our guys in their dome skillets!

by JulioBernazard on Jul 19, 2011 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

DEATH TO ALL BUNTS!!!

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

BASES LOADED. LGT.

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Scoring is the best revenge.

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Carrera showing some hitting ability lately

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

His 1st XBH is right around the corner

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

If OCab hits a double play or some shallow pop up now…

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I blame you completely…. ok, maybe Orlando a little.

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Predictable, not prescient.

by tabler84 on Jul 19, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any more outfield injuries and we will have a Columbus defensive unit. If we are making a trade, I think an outfielder just became a priority.

Adam Foote still blows!

by Heavysoviet on Jul 19, 2011 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

OF always was the top priority.

by JulioBernazard on Jul 19, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dunno, at full health I would have gone for another starting pitcher.

Adam Foote still blows!

by Heavysoviet on Jul 19, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right now I want both. We have enough for it.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ducks on the pond!

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh please walk a run home…

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Orlando is no longer welcome to this party

by tr1betime on Jul 19, 2011 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

At least it wasn’t a double play. Droobs is gonna be the $$$.

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Is this the worst-pitched no-run game of all time? So far yes.

by tabler84 on Jul 19, 2011 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

BTW – Hafner is off b/c of lefty?

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

safe!

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Whatever, I’ll take it.

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

For all the walks tonight, we are still determined to help this pitcher out. Jesus.

by tabler84 on Jul 19, 2011 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s frustrating.

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Good news is that he’s at 90 pitches

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

When you try and hide someone in the field, the ball always finds them.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Statistically, I find this hard to believe

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meaning, you put someone like Valbuena in the field, hoping that the ball won’t get hit to him…usually backfires.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand the concept, but my guess that if a study was done, the “hole” gets as many balls hit to him as the regular at that positions.

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, yeah. It’s just an old adage. That’s all.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. I tend to feel that a lot of old sports adages are full of shit

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, as I feared.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
by ABAOSTO
Indians working hard on deals for one of Josh Willingham and Ryan Ludwick

by johio1 on Jul 19, 2011 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I think I like Willingham.

by M.J.D. on Jul 19, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I prefer Willingham

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Astros dealt Keppinger today. Maybe Pence is available? I’d take him, too.

by M.J.D. on Jul 19, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but Jay pointed out his BAbip in another thread. He’ll be over-priced.

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t see the post, but I believe it for this year. However, he has a career .291/.339/.481 line. Can’t all be luck.

by M.J.D. on Jul 19, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s nice. But I ain’t given up Kipnis and two others for that. Also, he is really helped by that short porch in Houston.

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

His BAbip is .381 compared with .327 for his career. It is probably 90% luck, and anyway, why is everyone so jazzed about a guy with an 820 OPS?

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

The league average ops is 709.

by M.J.D. on Jul 19, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

For corner outfields, it was 768 for outfielders and 791 for right fielders.

I’m not necessarily saying Pence is the end all be all, but if the price isn’t ridiculously steep, it might be worth it.

by M.J.D. on Jul 19, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh, 768 for left fielders.

by M.J.D. on Jul 19, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do think it will be steeper than will be worth our time. Then again, Ed Wade.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ed Wade is going to be the issue. He will want Kipinis, White, Pomeranz, Abener Abreu, Slider, What’shisname, PBTNL, Antonietti and Cedar Point.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ed Wade is not the guy you trade with to acquire Pence, he’s the guy you trade with to unload Pence.

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Whats steep to you? I’ve still yet to hear a reasonable offer for Pence.

by 7foot3 on Jul 19, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Going on what I believe to be are the most talented guys in the system, I think a reasonable trade would be a bullpen arm , one of the AAA starters (Gomez, Huff, McAlister) and Kipnis or Phelps.

by M.J.D. on Jul 19, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Way too much.

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

WAY TOO MUCH^WAY TOO MUCH.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe. I don’t see the AAA guys as anything more than 4/5 guys at their best. Painful as it may be to give up a bullpen arm, you gotta give up value to get value. Maybe Phelps/Kipnis puts it over the top, but I’m fine with the first two parts.

by M.J.D. on Jul 19, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mr. Bavasi, is that you?

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe.

Not maybe.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

A #5, cost controlled starter is worth 10x more than Pence.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just so you know what your saying, the 4/5 guy would be under control for at least three years. The bullpen guy depends, lets say a year and for kicks and say an average 2B. Your talking 10 productive/average seasons for 1.5 seasons of average RF. Doeas that still sound fair?

by JK in CBus on Jul 19, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t value bullpen guys as great commodities because of how much they bounce up and down. As for as the 4/5 thing, in a vacuum, I like your reasoning. But I think between Gomez, Huff, McCalister (and maybe Barnes) they have enough of those guys that they can afford to risk giving one of them up to make a run this year.

by M.J.D. on Jul 19, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barnes is out for the year.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hunter Pence ain’t worth it. That’s the long and short of it. Have you even looked at another available player?

It’s not Hunter Pence or no trade. You have to understand that.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do; see if you can see wherever there was chatter about Willingham or Ludwick. My original point, somewhere in all of here, was that if the choice were average prospect (e.g. Gomez, Huff, etc…) for a Willingham/Ludwick type, but Pence took just a bit more, I’d do it.

by M.J.D. on Jul 19, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you the Houston Astros?

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

But it’s all in terms of what Houston will ask for, and Houston will ask for more than he’s likely worth.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

And instead of average, we have Zeke, Kearns and Buck

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did not know our only option was Pence.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

They can be deployed with some craft, however.

In addition, there’s no way to know how Pence does in the AL.

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Easy to believe better than our current trio

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, but how much better? Pence won’t be cheap in terms of talent and is not cheap in terms of salary.

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whether he is worth what Houston wants is a separate question than if he’d be an upgrade

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. For the right price, or a minor uptick from whatever it takes to get Willingham or a Ludwick, I’d take Pence.

by M.J.D. on Jul 19, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was slated to make $6.9M this season, so for around $3M I think you could do worse. As has been said, if Houston wants the world for him, I don’t want him. But if its comparable to other players being bandied about, I’d take it.

by M.J.D. on Jul 19, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Melky Cabrera is too

by 7foot3 on Jul 19, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

And away from Minute Maid (is it still called that?) he under .800 OPS.

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

After Travis Buck got hit in the head, I went to plunkeveryone.com to see if I could glean anything interesting. I did notice that among the leaderboards on the site on the dropdown menus in the right hand sidebar among the available splits is leaders being hit by a pitch in parks named after orange juice, insurance companies, beer, banks, people, telecoms and teams.

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by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

That guy is gloriously nuts.

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s at 789. So he is, at worst, an average hitting ight fielder using OPS.

by M.J.D. on Jul 19, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s nothing wrong with Hunter Pence. The problem is that he will not come with the right price tag. Everyone can say “Yeah but for the right price…” all they want. He’s still going to cost more than he’s worth.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

We don’t know that because we don’t know what it would cost to get him. I also have issues assuming that the prospects traded are going to turn out well. I don’t know that any of the tribe’s prospects, aside from Pomeranz, are sure things to become everyday players. To assume that whatever, and for whomever, the Indians make a play for will be done by overpaying is too quick a judgment to make.

by M.J.D. on Jul 19, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

My assumption is not that anyone the Indians make a play for will cost too much. Just Pence.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right. I give up a AA guy not named Pomeranz and an A guy with some upside. Nothing more. They will want multiple guys in our top 10. I say no.

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody in our top 10. At all. He’s not cheap.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

So if the deal was for Weglarz or Washington or someone like that, you’d nix it on that alone? I don’t think its a good idea to fall in love for prospects just because their ours.

by M.J.D. on Jul 19, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I’d trade either one of them in a second. That’s HUGELY different than even McAlister.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Weglarz sealed any deal, I’d do it in a heartbeat.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

At this point, if Weglarz can seal an envelope without a DL stint, I’d be impressed.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Depending on what list you look it, Washington and Weglarz are part of the top ten. If you value McCalister more, fine, but I wouldn’t rule out our top prospects just for the sake of being our top guys.

by M.J.D. on Jul 19, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’re not, but your entire reasoning so far for giving them away is “well what if they don’t do anything?” Which is horrible reasoning.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s not how I mean it to come off. But I don’t think our guys are locks to be so great as to suggest that we shouldn’t think about unloading them when there is a chance to make some noise this season.

by M.J.D. on Jul 19, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

We are thinking about unloading them. But Hunter Pence is not worth what you proposed, and that’s all. You don’t overpay just for the sake of overpaying.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, a mediocre defender and baserunner.

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think with the right fielder a team can take some hits on the defensive side of things. Rocket arm aside, Choo doesn’t exactly shine out there, either.

by M.J.D. on Jul 19, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can’t consider right fielders without considering their arms.

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by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Considering the fact that we currently have Austin Kearns out there, I doubt a prospective trade target’s arm is going to be a deal-breaker.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

My point is that you can’t put Choo’s rocket arm aside when considering him as a defender.

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by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s valid.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

BB-ref has a career 2.5 WAR per 162 games.

by 7foot3 on Jul 19, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate their outfield.

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Even when they misplay the ball badly it somehow winds up in their glove. I would feel better about it if they were good and lucky, but being bad and lucky is unsufferable.

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by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Make that insufferable.

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by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Son of a bitch.

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by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

MLBastian Jordan Bastian
Masterson heat-fest update: 66 pitches (65 fastballs, 1 slider).

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s awesome.

by M.J.D. on Jul 19, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t understand how this works. I mean, he does a tremendous job with arm angles, but eventually doesn’t he have to keep them off balance? Remarkable.

by tabler84 on Jul 19, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

4-seem and 2-seem are very different. One theory.

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

True enough, and he’s been between 91 and 97, so there is some – some – variation.

by tabler84 on Jul 19, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well he has two different fastballs, but you would think he’d need to throw more sliders eventually.

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m wondering if the slider to Cuddyer in the 4th was actually just a pitch that slipped out of his hand.

by barsham on Jul 19, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reed Johnson hit a double off Cliff Lee tonight, continuing his season-long trend of destroying lefties. Juuuuust saying.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just a .915 OPS on the year, .938 against left-handers, no big deal.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oof, and I thought this was responding to the Willingham/Ludwick talk. My bad.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

De. Young makes Swish look like downright graceful.

by JulioBernazard on Jul 19, 2011 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

KK…wait, stop.

SO SO SO!

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Masterson has supplanted Joe Smith as the best right-handed specialist on the team.

by tabler84 on Jul 19, 2011 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Valbuena better be swinging at anything close in his next at bat.

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by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

All right y’all. Who am I missing on Twitter? Handles?

by tabler84 on Jul 19, 2011 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Bot-7, Top-8 will determine this game, looking at where we are in respective lineups/pitching staff

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Pulled him off the bag. Ugh.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh. Can’t do that!

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Twins baseball, everybody.

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by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks to Matt Y. for putting up the thread. The site was down briefly this afternoon, I wonder if that didn’t screw up the Game Thread posting system. Ryan usually has them programmed to go up automatically.

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

you’re welcome

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, SB Nation had a problem as a whole. It messed up some other stuff as well.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

And of course I was posting three comments in three different threads when it happened.

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ouch. Bet that was annoying.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saved them all. I’m stubborn, and it’s not the first time.

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smart move and yeah, it seems to happen every now and then.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Won’t post, won’t preview … and I’m all, DAMN IT I AM NOT LOSING THIS VERY INCISIVE COMMENT.

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha. Yeah, I know that feeling. I usually just attempt it a few times and then give up.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought they’d be automated at this point.

by JulioBernazard on Jul 19, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are largely automated, but part of the process is left manual so we can customize the format and other options.

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I till hate the twins.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Also, yes, I have been droinking.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sit down Thome!

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

2nd fav Indian of All Time…and now I like him even more

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone please time machine me, tell me Thome is GIDPing.

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Just an old fashion K.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

ALSO: The backwards K should be part of the standard keyboard.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

K-ing

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah, K’d on ball 4

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now is the time for a DP.

by jayme on Jul 19, 2011 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Was impeccable.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Carlos got some popcorn for his trouble.

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by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Double Play! Masterson, you are huge!

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Add that to the list of things we need to ask Carlos not to do …

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Yay!!

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

And, to counter your Twins baseball, some Indians baseball.

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by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

What did Carlos do? Missed it.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Tobbled headfirst into the front row of seats chasing a ball he wasn’t going to catch anyway.

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

He didn’t get hurt, did he?

by barsham on Jul 19, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not this time, no.

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

JETER NEVER CARED ABOUT HIS OWN SAFETY.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

/hat tip

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

This went from 1 rec to 3 when I rec’d it.

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

He ended up in the first row of seats down the right field line while attempting to field a foul pop.

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by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

A MAN A PLAN A HANNAHAN!

WOOOOOO!

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:01 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

My wife is insistent that it should catch on.

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I recall, your wife is also at least semi-responsible for the great “Parker Lewis Can’t Lose” theme song night of 2007.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 19, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Entirely responsible for it. She also coined “Little Giraffe.”

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm, I missed Little Giraffe. Give me a minute to think about it before you tell me the answer, unless it’s something I’ll never come up with.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 19, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

it’s been 10 minutes; Graffanino.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

saw that before you pointed it out BUT BEFORE I POSTED DAMMIT

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

AFTER. PLUNK EVERYONE.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also believe it was your wife who wondered why equal accolades aren’t given for no-walkers as no-hitters?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stuck in my mind because, yeah, why not?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alright, I give. Little Giraffe? I’ve got nothing.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 19, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ohh, well done. Linguistics, I was thinking physical appearances.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 19, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

She raised her fist in victory when I informed her that you remembered that.

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think all of us that were there remember it. It was something to behold.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 19, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

She never failed to sing the theme song for a few seconds when he entered the game, straight through last season. Her knowledge of 80s TV theme songs is fairly encyclopedic.

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow. I imagine his release was particularly bittersweet for you.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 19, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really. We had our time, me and the Parker Lewis theme song, but I had to let it go.

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I watched that show a lot when it was on. Until LGT I didn’t know anyone else had heard of it.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

despite the reference, I believe tonight is the night I learned it was a TV show.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Turned the game on just in time for the double play! LGT!

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 19, 2011 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

i feel a home run this inning

by danmang on Jul 19, 2011 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Awww, that error’s too bad. :D

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

droobs will hit it THROUGH people.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Pittsburgh beat Cinci again tonight to stay in first place.

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by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

KC has taken the lead over CHI, 3-2 in the 7th.

by barsham on Jul 19, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

AND HERE COME THE ROYALS

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I used to not care about Pittsburgh as a baseball town. Now…I don’t like them. Though I do like Neal Huntington.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t like them because it’s Pittsburgh.

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I like them. I completely separate them from the Steelers. My father is a die-hard Indians fan but worshiped Roberto Clemente as a kid. 21 is still my lucky number because of it.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m about right here, too. I like them because they’re kind of like an NL Indians. A friend of mine is a huge Pirates fan, so I kind of cheer for them by proxy through him.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would be a great and very unlikely World Series matchup. ESPN would hate it, which I love.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it happened, I’d be there.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

FOX would hate it more.

by JulioBernazard on Jul 19, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even now, they’re listening to Antonetti’s and Huntington’s voice mail messages to insure that this doesn’t happen.

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by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Indians should never be compared to the Pirates, at least for the era concerning the last twenty years. One of these organizations has been quite successful and one has made losing into an art form.

by M.J.D. on Jul 19, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Until they got Neal Huntington

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

What they’re doing right now is not completely dissimilar to the Indians’ approach to small-market success. Besides, the Indians would never go two decades of making losing an art form, right?

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

As an Indians fan under the age of 30, I have no idea what you’re referring to.

by M.J.D. on Jul 19, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m 26.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like them because a friend who thinks he’s knowledgeable, and is from Pittsburgh, went ballistic when they traded McLouth. Said he was done rooting for a team that “wouldn’t pay good players.” I tried to tell him that McLouth was one of the worst players in the game, but he wouldn’t hear it. So now I want the Pirates to win so he can suck it.

by tabler84 on Jul 19, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’ve got no interest in the Cleveland-Pittsburgh rivalry.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just agree Haden > Pouncey

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, that is tough one. They are both awesome. Both pranksters and say funny stuff. Both really good football players. I’d give the edge to Haden only because I’m a defensive guy (DB’s specifically).

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like it because it’s making so many Reds fans absolutely furious and that makes me happy.

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by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Successfully stayed away from Tour de France results today, so I’ve got a rainy climb and descent on the TV and a Tribe shut-out on the laptop. It’s gonna be a good evening.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 19, 2011 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Tour de France? Really?

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m a triathlete, so I ride a ton, which helps, but man, July is my absolute favorite month of the year because of the Tour. It’s oddly soothing and really exciting at the same time, or nearly the same time. Kind of like baseball in a sense; you can “watch it” while doing something and still really enjoy it.or you can really watch it closely and get a ton out of it.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 19, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhhh. That’s cool. I watched it every now and then when Lance was in it. Floyd Landis as well. But other than that, too much “drug talk” though, which gets ridiculous after a bit.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I loves me some Tour de France, as does my brother. I won’t spoil it for you, but it’s a great event to follow.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Popular down here as well

One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play

by new zealand tribe fan on Jul 19, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I loved Jan Ullrich. I always wanted him to win, then he got booted for a pretty shaky doping accusation when he had his chance.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure he won one in the late 90’s.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

’97.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 19, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s right.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, 1997. I guess I should have said I wanted him to win another one. It was really that time that he waited for Armstrong after he wrecked in the early 2000s that took me from casually liking him to really being infatuated. That was just a really sporting move.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhhh, yeah, that was a really classy move.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Makes it that much easier to loathe Contador.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is true.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bicycle racing is only slightly more entertaining than watching an endless loop of Derek Jeter highlights.

by hardcap on Jul 19, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. This one just happens to be wrong.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 19, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh… I was kidding… I don’t watch it but it isn’t that bad. Just saw a Jeter jab opportunity.

by hardcap on Jul 19, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s something that’s difficult to appreciate unless you ride at least a little. The amount of pain that goes into riding up a mountain is incredible. Doing it that fast is just incredible, and then the attacking and tactics are amazing.

I’ve “cracked” before climbing around Colorado with my friends, and you feel like you’re dying. It’s like a switch gets flipped and the pain is excrutiating and you’ve just got nothing to respond with. It’s incredible to watch these guys do it in the tour, whether they’re doping or not.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 19, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always think about the Tour when I’m out running, mostly because I “crack” from time to time on the hills and it makes it that much more incredible to me what those guys are able to do.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do the same thing.

One time I was way up north of Boulder with a few friends riding HARD, as hard as we could. Some guy blows by us like we’re on Huffys. And he’s talking on his cell phone. It was Christian Vandevelde. It was the most impressive thing I’ve ever seen up close like that; we were all in really good shape, all Ironman shape, and this guy was just playing a totally different sport.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 19, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was one of Lance’s US Postal teammates right?

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think so. Later he was on Slipstream/Chipotle, and I’m not sure what they’re called this year. It’s like the frat of cycling, they’re lunatics, but they’re very anti-doping and very visible in Boulder, so I’ve grown to cheer for them.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 19, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s cool. If I had been in your shoes and saw him fly past me like that, I’d have probably said to myself “Well, time to pick a new sport.”

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m completely willing to believe that, and I have a lot of respect for what they do and the tactics employed and the intrinsic beauty of it all. But I can’t sit and watch it.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll watch bicycle racing over auto racing any day of the week.

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by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

This. NASCAR= zzzzzz.

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Open-wheel racing beats the crap out of NASCAR any day of the week.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s the taller midget of the two.

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jul 19, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way. NASCAR is greatness.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you believe this, I can’t talk to you about auto racing.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Open-wheel racing, F1, Indy Car…etc. It is boring to me. Sounds like a wind-up toy.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tough one right there.

by danmang on Jul 19, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely, and I have zero interest in bike racing.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d watch golf over either of them. AND I HATE GOLF.

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by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you play golf?

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

hell no.

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by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree. Although I don’t hate golf. But I haven’t gone yet this year through a combination of schedule and a complete lack of talent on my part.

There are few things more enjoyable than golfing with a bunch of buddies who are also terrible on a beautiful day.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are few things more enjoyable than golfing with a bunch of buddies who are also terrible on a beautiful day.

This. Once you divorce your enjoyment of the event from your score, you’re screwing around outside with friends, which is great.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. I’ve got no problems with going out with a couple of buddies, chucking and hacking around the course, drinking a few beers..etc.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who did they just say the Royals won’t trade?

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought it was Melky.

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by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Without even looking, I’m guessing I’d prefer his numbers to Francouer’s?

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, yes.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s a mistake on the Royals’ part not to trade Melky. But I don’t think they’d want to deal with a Central Division opponent anyway.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manning making the semi-moronic case for Francouer. Shapiro needs to have the RBI talk with him yet again.

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m not breaking the bank for him, but Francouer would make some sense. http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/07/09/the-frenchy-formula/

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe forgets to point out that Francouer has kind of nosedived since June. An OBP of .294.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess. Not really that telling.

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

This Nische-okah is quite a Twin.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think Manning likes anything more than a broken bat.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

A mirror.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Denise Eckersley.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

HA! This is awesome.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would be, except that we traded the Eck and now he’s in the Hall of Fame.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of the many.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hall of Famers?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess they left via free agency. Nevermind.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

MR. MORSE JUST POPPED UP ON THE ESPN TOP PERFORMER LEADERBOARD.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

3-3, HR, 2 RBI, 1 R, BB

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’re going to the pen for Ben Revere?

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

There’s two down. Masterson couldn’t get Revere to end the inning?

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Revere doesn’t kill anyone.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

A single bringing up Mauer woulda brought Sipp in anyways.

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ben Revere’s OPS is under .600. I think Masterson could have gotten him. Water under the bridge though; Sipp did his job, now it’s up to Rage.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya…I wouldnt have minded leaving Masterson in either

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you have money on him finishing the inning? I don’t see the issue.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, just discussing managerial decisions

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was the one making the issue of it. I didn’t see the point in going to the pen for Ben Revere and OPace was taking the other side. Pretty minor issue though.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Masterson went 7.2. He did his job. Sipp came in and did his.

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by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is anyone on google+? How is it?

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes.

Not sure, really. I have 1 friend and have used it for like 15 minutes total.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. It is fantastic.

I was designed by someone who is a true paranoid neurotic. I love it.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

this comment is hilarious whether you meant “I” or “It”

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it works both ways.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

It thinks I works both ways

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can join I circle on Google+.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never heard of it.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lifehouse…more, less or as hate-able as Brad Paisley?

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Less, but only because I haven’t been inundated by their commercials for three months.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Less because one isn’t country.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Less, for both of the above reasons.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hm, Paisley is way, way more talented. An incredibly underrated guitar player.

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why the move now?

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 19, 2011 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

THROW A STRIKE, TONY.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

He did no need to yell

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

An insurance run next inning would be great.

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 10:28 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Come on, guys. One more run.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Alright, here we go…

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Twinkle time.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I would be much happier if it was more than a 1 run lead, and not the heart of the Minnesota order coming up

by barsham on Jul 19, 2011 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Oxymoron.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 more.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 19, 2011 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Valbuena! I like it.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

OMG IT FOUND VALBUENA IT ALWAYS DOES!!!

by OPace on Jul 19, 2011 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Haha.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is this news?

MINNEAPOLIS — The Cleveland Indians got some good news about Grady Sizemore on Tuesday, with an MRI showing nothing more than a bone bruise on his injured right knee.

There is no timetable for Sizemore’s return

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

along with more public trade talk:

There is no timetable for Sizemore’s return, and with fellow outfielder Shin-Soo Choo still out another month with a broken left thumb, manager Manny Acta said the need for his team to make a trade to bolster the club is “an understatement.”

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by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Choo is still out for a month? Holy crap.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’d be thrilled to have him August 19th.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well yeah, but it seems like an awfully long time to be out.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Getting him and White back could do big things.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

How is one especially susceptible to bone bruises?

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought it was the left knee

by emil minty on Jul 19, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you want a valbuena, jose inglett will give you a valbuena

by emil minty on Jul 19, 2011 10:37 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

COME ON. THROW A STRIKE.

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Just hit Mauer in the face with a pitch and be done with it.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Shit. Double play, please.

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

This I don’t love.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Crap. Cuddyer and Thome? This has the makings of ruining my evening.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 19, 2011 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

When’s the last time Perez went 1-2-3?

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Little league?

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

July 6th, three appearances ago, and the appearance before that as well.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

according to hammy, the strike zone gets tiny when Mauer is the batter.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

In fairness to all involved, Perez wasn’t testing this.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

What the hell, Perez?

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 19, 2011 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Strikes please?

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

fuck

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Really, Perez? Are you f’n kidding me?

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah….ugh oh.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

HATE. HATE HATE HATE.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Walk Thome, roll Valencia. No problem.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

CCCCCCRAAAPP

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

F.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 19, 2011 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

WHY ARE THEY NEAR THE WARNING TRACK?

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

“No doubles defense”… which just led to a double.

by JulioBernazard on Jul 19, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

that’s the right defense there. Valbuena doesn’t get a great jump because of big swing/broken bat. Bad luck for us there.

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course it was a bloop.

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Twins baseball.

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by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great job, Perez. Great job.

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

IBB? HATE.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Why?

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

loads the bases, perez is wild, a homer wasn’t likely—and valencia can hit a SF just as easily.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

When a hit ends it, I feel better about facing Valencia than Thome, especially considering there’s no DP if you face Thome.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Twins might tie or win this ballgame for the simple reason that Francisco Liriano hit Travis Buck in the head and Valbueana was forced to play LF.

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by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, you were right.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thome being IBBP

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I mean, intentionally walked.

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rick Manning DOES NOT LIKE THAT DEFENSE, Sam I Am.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 19, 2011 10:41 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

At MLB Gameday speed, I’d already assumed the 2-run HR worst. This is actually a relief.

by BandwagonSince93 on Jul 19, 2011 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

So far…

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree. Make Valencia tie it.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

there’s 1 out. if there were 2, fine.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just hit into a double play.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

gidp, gidp, gidp…

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Chris Perez is better than Bob Wickman…but it does not always feel that way

by OscarDog on Jul 19, 2011 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I dont’ understand the underrating of Bob Wickman

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guys, come on. Relax.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Wait nevermind.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad to see it’s the guy who homered off of Perez yesterday…

by barsham on Jul 19, 2011 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Thome pinch runner… huh?

by McWahoo on Jul 19, 2011 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Double play.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 19, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

avoid the DP

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s going to walk this asshole.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 19, 2011 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Umm…

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

YOU ASSHAT

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Jul 19, 2011 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Gosh dang it.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

We lose??

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Son of a bitch.

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by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Are you shitting me? Ridiculous. Thanks, Chris.

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

DIVE!!!

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow. What a shitty game.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 19, 2011 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

What the heck just happened?

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

What was Valbuena doing??

"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.

by Matt Y. on Jul 19, 2011 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

It found him. As they say.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Danny fucking Valencia. For god sakes.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Tied with DET now…

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

An outfielder catches that ball for a game ending double play

Valbuena has to lay out for that ball

by IndyDave on Jul 19, 2011 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

For a game-ending double play?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mauer (or whoever was on second) probably doesn’t get back if he takes off like that.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cudeyeair was around third before it ever hit the ground.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

There you go. Yeah, no way he gets back.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hadn’t noticed.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The runners were running on the pitch.

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you’re right. Valbuena didn’t get a great jump and then played it off a hop. weird.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Garko woulda had it.

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jul 19, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

So, what, he just had nothing on the slider? Had to throw a meatball fastball just to keep one in the strikezone?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

He looked almost exactly like he has looked this entire season.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was pretty sure this was worse than the typical results of his appearances.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Results yes. Stuff? Not so much.

by gte619n on Jul 19, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t in the strike zone. Up and in per the Twins pitch tracker

by IndyDave on Jul 19, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

a jam job. Tough to blame Perez.

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Twins baseball, everybody. They win on two bloops in front of an outfielder who’s only out there because a better player was hit in the head by a pitched ball. Their not very good outfielder luck into baseballs they have no business catching and our not very good infielder playing the outfield can’t get to the baseball.

I hate the Twins.

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by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

We better win tomorrow.

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

This plus those two Orioles losses is so irritating.

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

We will. No worries.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the Indians finish a game out of first, this is one of the games they will wish they had back.

by palcal on Jul 19, 2011 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Brutally funny. I laughed out loud.

Lou Marson fan.

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 20, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hate Valbuena.

Adam Foote still blows!

by Heavysoviet on Jul 19, 2011 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Nibbling around Mauer and freaking no doubles defense

by IndyDave on Jul 19, 2011 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

We lost this before the 9th.

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed – should have had more than 1 run

by IndyDave on Jul 19, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

spoiled a great Masterton start once again.

by danmang on Jul 19, 2011 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I want to blame our pathetic offense for this as much as Perez

by OscarDog on Jul 19, 2011 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Injuries, too. And Valbie, a little bit.

Plus the mods, for not putting up a proper game thread.

by JulioBernazard on Jul 19, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can a game thread be blamed?

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is one of those days where I feel like we just need to make that trade…the longer we wait the more games like this we lose.

by OscarDog on Jul 19, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

No trade can prevent you from losing two of your four outfielders by the 4th inning.

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the bright side (no matter how hard it is to see right now), this might get that trade done sooner rather than later.

by McWahoo on Jul 19, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Optimism…I like that!

by OscarDog on Jul 19, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

The trade deadline is just over ten days away. So that’s very relative when we say “sooner” or “later.”

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

After losses I like I slip into a mild case of the Clevelanddotcomitis…you are right.

by OscarDog on Jul 19, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure what happened. The game thread is still showing as scheduled for 7:45 PM.

That’s what I get for assuming.

by Ryan on Jul 19, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

The site may not have been operating at 7:45 p.m.

by Jay on Jul 19, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

This sucks. Goddamn near must win tomorrow.

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Even if we weren’t in 1st place, I can’t see how a game on July 20 is a must win.

by 7foot3 on Jul 19, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

near must win.

A 4-4 road trip against bad teams just isn’t going to get it done.

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

If this 8 game stretch meant more than any other 8 game stretch, then maybe. Just maybe. But there are 24 more games against Detroit and Chicago combined. We’re still at least a month away from must-wins.

by 7foot3 on Jul 19, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

do concussions requre a DL stint? b/c i am not looking forward to a brantley/carrera/kearns outfield for the next 2 weeks

by tr1betime on Jul 19, 2011 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Isn’t there a 7 day concussion DL starting this yeaer?

by IndyDave on Jul 19, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Justin Morneau says yes.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better than Buck/Carrera/Kerans, no?

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

STO said Buck didn’t have concussion symptoms.

by emily522 on Jul 19, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manning with one good point- where the hell was Brantley. He needs to ignore the stomach flu for a couple hours and man left for the last 4 innings.

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Manning is a moron. If you’re too sick to play, you’re too sick to play.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I as well.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

What in the hell would you two be “skeptical” of? Enlighten me. Did you think Brantley had his feet up on a table with a piece of straw sticking out his mouth, shaking his head as Acta asked him to suit up? Think for a second before agreeing with RICK MANNING.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It isn’t like people haven’t played with the flu before. Just saying.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just saying… what? You peeked your head in that clubhouse, did you?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nope.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did Manning give you the D or something?

by silverbackAXP on Jul 20, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll make a note of that. Placing this loss anywhere near Brantley is absurd.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not really. If he is out there, I say we win. Now, he may have been truly unable to play. But its just hard for me to accept.

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s hard for me to accept that Indians players keep getting hit in the head with pitched balls. Yet, I’m not blaming Travis Buck for losing this game.

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by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I (and Manning) am not totally blaming Michael Brantley, but the lack of Michael Brantley sure did hugely contribute to this loss.

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s a difference between saying Brantley’s absence hurt, and saying it’s Brantley’s fault for not being there. They are not the same thing.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. And I think the first is clearly true. The second could be.

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manny Acta could choke vagrants and dump them in the river of every road city. Until I have a shred of evidence to suggest it, why even bring it up?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Oh for Christ’s sake.

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

So now you understand my own reaction.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I suppose. I also am reminded why I stopped reading comments on blogs. Context and tone are misread or ignored and the entire discussion turns to semantics and obsession over insignificant topics.

I apologize that I so offended you in my reaction to Manning’s comment of “where was Brantley?” We lost a game in a really difficult way. One of the guys that could have made a difference was a last second scratch for a “stomach ailment” and we were left with a guy out of position. I am frustrated at a slow, out of position LF and we had a speedy good LF on the bench who was healthy very recently and not injured.

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s fine, but I don’t think I’m the one taking anything out of context. You, likely and understandably mad over a loss, questioned Brantley’s commitment to being on the field (and you did) with no reason to do so. It was completely misplaced blame. You can’t hang that one on the comments sections of blogs.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I questioned the decision to have Brantley unavailable late in the game, whoever made that decision. Neither of us know what his condition was, but I’m guessing he (and/or Acta) are second-guessing taht decision now.

I also expressed frustration at ALL the factors that led to Valbuena’s presence in LF at the end of a 1-run game and the bending of these two items and subsequent discussion trying to separate those two likely wouldn’t have happened if you were sitting next to me.

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven’t yet taken issue with your frustration that Valbuena was in left, and I haven’t confused it with the part where you said you were skeptical that Brantley was too sick. If you said it out of frustration with how the game ended, and didn’t mean it, you also haven’t said that.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

You didn’t question the decision, you said Brantley needed to ignore the stomach flu. Nick seems to understand that he knows a lot less about Brantley’s condition than the guys who made that decision, unlike you.

by 7foot3 on Jul 20, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, it did. So did the Indians’ failure to hit with RISP. If Liriano doesn’t hit Travis Buck in the head with a pitch, Brantley’s non-presence is a nonfactor.

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by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

But its just hard for me to accept.

Give me one reason you have to believe anything other than “Brantley was too sick to play.”

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its hard to accept or swallow the entire situation. Also, he just played 18 innings yesterday, got 20 hours of rest and then couldn’t play in a huge spot? It just sucks

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

“It just sucks” and “he hasn’t played in 20 hours” are not evidence that he was dogging it.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

But its hard to accept.

hard to swallow
1. difficult to accept The terms of the agreement were hard to swallow, but I needed the work. My father’s anger was very hard to swallow.

The statement doesn’t have anything to do with the culpability of Brantley’s toughness. It just is a crappy situation.

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you’re too sick to play, you’re too sick to play.
Color me skeptical.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

As you mentioned above, we are talking about two separate things (at the same tiem thanks to the magic of SBN’s platform!

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we’re talking about two different things, I apologize, and I will steer it back to my original question as a sort of final statement on my part. Then we can walk away.

Brantley was too sick to play. You claimed to be skeptical of the fact that he was too sick to play. I suggested you had no reason to be, and if you do, you haven’t shown one.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was skeptical, admittedly in the heat of the moment, because he played 18 innings yesterday and seemed fine and played well. He was also in the lineup up until just before the game, suggesting either some indecision by Brantley or Acta or that one of them considered having him go out there anyway. Plus I disagree with the statement “if you are too sick then you are too sick”. He could have been less than 100%, boderline, and they decided to give him teh day off. But that Calculus could have change after some time to get better and with the situation became more dicey for the team. Such judgment calls are made all the time in a long season.

Maybe he was incapacitated and couldn’t lift his head off the toilet seat through the 9th. Maybe Acta wanted to make sure he was fresh for tomorrow. We don’t know. I don’t have evidence, but in search for what went wrong in a tough loss, I was skeptical given the circumstance.

by Ryan Kelsey on Jul 19, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good enough for me, let’s win tomorrow.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know what else is hard to accept?

Death.

by Jay on Jul 20, 2011 4:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s not a good point at all.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends how bad the flu is.

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently it was pretty bad. Either that or Brantley doesn’t care about winning games in the middle of the tightest playoff race of his young career. I’m going to stick with the “Brantley sick, Manning stupid” theory for now.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah

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by FlaGators on Jul 19, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bottom line: we just had to score more than one run tonight.

by jrandall64 on Jul 19, 2011 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Masterson just needs to learn to be a winner and this isn’t a problem.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 10:57 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Absolutely. Apparently too much time around that wuss Michael Brantley has rubbed off on him.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 19, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The strangest thing about all of this is the force field of veteranosity that Orlando Cabrera should have been emanating. How bad is Masterson’s clubhouse cancer to infect Brantley through that power?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 19, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

justin masterson probably has a dart board with his teammates’ faces on it

by tr1betime on Jul 19, 2011 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

They have to hate him for some good reason, anyway.

by ameliorate on Jul 19, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really any games you “should have won” when you score 1 run.

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by PortlandVinny on Jul 19, 2011 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Right, correct, but what kind of fan is rational? Every 9th inning lead that disappears feels wrong, unjust, downright un-American! Cf. Jose Mesa.

by JamesPowell on Jul 19, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t get me wrong, I kicked stuff.

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by PortlandVinny on Jul 19, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guess who sat in near 100 degree temps to watch them fritter it away. Disheartening but honestly that might be the two worst lineups one can watch. Garbage.

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Jul 19, 2011 11:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

You can argue about whether this loss is worse than others, but it is only the 2nd game that has been lost when leading after 8 innings.

by palcal on Jul 19, 2011 11:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Pessimistic and a non-sequitor. Impressive.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 20, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, I think that was pretty noteworthy.

by Jay on Jul 20, 2011 4:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

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