Speak to me, Travis
Indians Nation (an entirely inappropriate and reasonably underutilized nickname) is on pins and needles, waiting to see what, if anything, Chris Antonetti will do in an attempt to push his improbably successful ball club "over the top." It's such a fever, in fact, that we've initiated a contest about it—one you should totally participate in, if only because I love to judge people and things (and you—yes, you, over there). The questions surrounding potential moves are as old as time: who will go? Who will stay? Is Trot Nixon available as a team valet? What about Joe Inglett? How mad is Eddie Murray? Did anyone remember to send Luis Isaac an apology gift?
Fans (that's us), are always invested in what moves a team will make, regardless of the time of year—for close followers of the Indians, understanding the intricacies of roster movement and arbitration rules is practically a requirement. Roster management is more prerequisite to living than fact of life for a small market franchise. But, even our counterparts in baseball's symbolic penthouse love rosterbation—it appeals to many basic human obsessions: self-improvement, getting something for nothing, gambling, et al.
This edition of the Indians, though, is the first in many years that can even entertain the notion of a trade to improve the current roster. The Tribe's deadlines of late have been characterized by sad goodbyes. In contrast, this season there is the possibility of bidding farewell to a player we hardly, if ever, knew. We are suddenly compelled by the prospect of trading one type of lottery ticket for another. For me, there's a reason beyond the typical for finding this trading deadline so intriguing: it's not just that gambling on a new (old) face would be exciting; it would also be a communication I badly want.
The Indians and I, I feel like we're not talking much. At the beginning of the season, the team's intentions seemed surprisingly clear: they intended to win the damn division. As the too cold of Cleveland spring has turned into the too hot of Minnesota summer, though, I'm not sure what they're saying. The Indians have become casually two-faced, breaking my heart one day and making it sing the next. There have been many moments this season that, if the Indians had tried to walk out, I would've let them. There have been just as many moments when I would've barred the door with my body, screaming, "No! We can make this work! Yes, of course Jack and Orlando can stay—anything you want! Anything!"
Thus, the life of the fan of a middling team, a team that needs all its luck to even get a shot at swinging wildly, eyes squeezed shut, in a title bout. Teams like the Yankees or Red Sox might occasionally flirt with the premise that they are something other than contenders but, ultimately, their messages are generally clear and generally the same: we are hear to try to win the damn thing and we've got a good shot at it. It's because this message is so often the same that the Chicken Little hand-wringing of those franchises' fans is met with so many eye rolls. In contrast, a team just hoping it works out has no consistent message; one week they sound like the Yankees, the next they're screaming bloody murder while their big brother spladles them. I recognize teams win games and lose games, that baseball is a long season, and that consistency is not something to be expected—even so, this is an emotionally draining group to follow.
So a trade, or a prominent promotion, or the lack of either one, would at least allow me to create my own false narrative, allow me to craft my own person e-card from the Antonetti's Outlook (you know he's Microsoft) to my Gmail. That's my request, Chris—can you light some lamps for us? One if by land, two if by Pence? Can you sneak a letter out, slipped in the petticoat of X, Y, or Z? Of course you can't, and of course it doesn't really matter; I'll have to wait until the story's ending is obvious before I'll know who the protagonists were.
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Worthy of a rec for “rosterbation” alone.
by ken from alexandria on Jul 21, 2011 12:58 PM EDT reply actions
This is where Antonetti earns his salary. Its much less difficult (from a player transaction point of view) when your out of it and dumping salary to rebuild and you have multiple offers from which to choose. Now Antonetti has tough choices to make. I don’t think the Indians markedly improve without moving one or more of Chisenhall, Kipnis, White or Pomeranz.
Did we get anyone of that calliber for Cliff Lee?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jul 21, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Antonetti also has to decide what we’re trading for. Is this a World Series caliber team right away if we add one key piece? I’m not at all persuaded that’s the case. We might win our division with a key addition, but then you don’t give up your best prospects in the deal to get that addition.
My ideal trade is for a player that can make a significant impact this year—and honestly, that’s almost everyone we’ve been connected to, considering what a difference any decent outfielder or starter would make—but still sets the Indians to contend in 2012 without that player. And a 2012 team without White, Kipnis, Pomeranz, etc has significantly diminished chances of competing.
Steel Nick
I more or less agree, but I’d modify this to say a player who could help this year AND next would be even better. I think a decent outfielder would fit that bill — after Choo, Brantley and Sizemore (and who knows what will happen with him), we have nothing in the outfield (I’m not a Travis Buck admirer) and nothing in the minors to fix the problem. So, I’d be willing to give up something at positions where we have some depth (bullpen? one of the marginal starters? Phelps or Donald?) if it brought a solid right-handed outfielder (not a great one; just better than bad).
The problem is that while I think most of us would agree there’s a difference between a World Series caliber team and a mere postseason caliber team, once you get to the playoffs, it’s a crapshoot. At least compared to the ordered, stats driven regular season. So if you’ve got a chance to move a smaller piece or two to get a guy that helps us to the playoffs, go for it.
Il faut d'abord durer.
And he probably is good, but this year has marred that development.
Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.
Can we be the one team that doesn’t presume to believe that its fans and followers constitute a Nation? Please? Let’s not be those people.
@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff
We already are, but we prefer the term Tribe to Nation.
by talonk on Jul 21, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Antonetti should start every phone call with the words “Chisenhall, Pomeranz, Kipnis and Chisenhall are all completely untouchable.” We need another outfielder, but if it comes at the cost of one of those potential organizational cornerstones, it’s not worth it.
I’d rather miss the playoffs this year and keep those four guys but have a better team going forward than trade one (or more) of them and make it to the playoffs but have also jeopardized the future.
I find it interesting people react so strongly to this considering the very next words indicate that I think it’s stupid.
The term is in any case spoken for.
by Forever Magallanes on Jul 22, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Received the Cablevision Annual Report yesterday (crappy stock BTW) signed by Larry Dolan’s brother Chairman Charles Dolan. $7 billion in revenue. Come on Dolan, you have a ton of money, use it to make this club even better. You owe it to us fans who stick with the Indians year in and year out and the players who are putting together a remarkable run and laying the foundation for future success.
READ YOUR BROTHER’S ANNUAL REPORT DOLAN!
by matt7 on Jul 22, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs

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