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Sizemore underwent abdominal surgery on Thurs in Philadelphia to correct sports hernia. Recovery time is 4-6 weeks. More on mlb.com soon.

Bastian via Twitter. Uhh, ok. I don't know what to say—that's not even the right body part, is it?

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Recovery time for Sizemore’s knee was expected to be around 4 weeks or so. Indians felt it made sense to address sports hernia at same time.

Crasnick reports this has been bothering him since May.

by afh4 on Jul 21, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I will wrap myself in the warm comfort of delusion by calling this an injury as a postive indicator.

by Pronktastic on Jul 21, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

The announcers during the Clippers game on STO were just talking about this. They said he injured it during the slide in May when he hurt his knee. I guess if he’s going to be out for his knee then you might as well fix this too.

I guess the bright side of this is that the time off from this surgery will give him time to rest his knee and he won’t rush back when he’s not ready. Hopefully he can come back in September ready to help the team in their fight for the playoffs.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 21, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

And this might help explain why he’s been so terrible since coming back from his last DL stint.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 21, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn’t seem out of the question – he wasn’t this bad coming back to start the year.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Jul 21, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

This made me think of the Steve Rushin article from SI this week on injuries. Definitely worth a read.

by Roger Dorn on Jul 21, 2011 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Did the sports hernia cause waiting for off-speed pitches to be painful?

by JulioBernazard on Jul 21, 2011 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought this has been pretty well covered. We saw it with Hafner before. The injury doesn’t allow him to swing the bat as well as he previously could. He has to adjust by deciding sooner whether or not to swing at a pitch.

by 7foot3 on Jul 21, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Permission for temporary use of game thread language, please?

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jul 21, 2011 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

It would help set my expectations for Grady’s results this season if the Tribe could let us know what parts are OK, rather than these surprise announcements of what parts aren’t. Kind of as a baseline starting point. He is amazingly tough, I will say, having played with this injury.

by MTF on Jul 21, 2011 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ve been hearing positive feedback about his face. That part seems OK.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Jul 21, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone know the difference between a sports hernia and just a hernia? I’ve had two hernia operations in my life, and my understanding is that it’s a tear or hole in the lower abdominal walls; is a sports hernia just a weakening of that or is there actually a tear?

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 21, 2011 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

A sports hernia is not actually a hernia at all. It involves a weakening in the same abdominal wall muscles as an inguinal hernia (the inguinal canal), but there is no palpable hernia.

by FredOx on Jul 21, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

So do we have any idea why those “two areas are related” in terms of the sports hernia and the knee injury as Sizemore “said” in his statement?

by The DiaTriber on Jul 21, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, he twisted pretty good back on that slide. I’m sure twisting and contorting can lead to this?

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Jul 21, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’re cautiously optimistic that in four to six weeks he’s going to return to full baseball activities.

Quote from Soloff on Grady’s injuries.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 21, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

We’ve heard that before.

by callmrplow on Jul 22, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Soloff gets the old grain of salt treatment from me.

by Roger Dorn on Jul 22, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, this puts into context the rumors around the Tweetertubezz that the Indians have inquired about Coco Crisp.

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on Jul 21, 2011 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Again, I don’t think it does. We have two CFers on the roster and acquiring an expensive guy with a sub-.700 OPS on an offensively challenged team doesn’t make much sense to me.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 21, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not saying it would be a good thing – I am saying that it explains why the Indians would be rumored to be expanding their outfield search beyond right fielders.

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on Jul 21, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope, if they really have inquired about Coco, it’s to show another team that they have other options.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 21, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mr Miller would like to have a word with you.

by talonk on Jul 21, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, what are the odds that Sizemore’s option is NOT picked up next year?

by millionairesrow on Jul 21, 2011 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I still think it’s unlikely they will decline it. Quite unlikely, actually. Even with all of his issues this year, he has still posted a 114 OPS+. Even only 100 games from a centerfielder who can hit like that is worth $8 million (I would think). Then of course there is the upside..

by baerga1 on Jul 21, 2011 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

meant as reply to millionaire..

by baerga1 on Jul 21, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t call what he gave the Indians worth 8 million dollars at this point.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Jul 21, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

marketing included? wake up.

by DocNo on Jul 21, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

If pressed I would have to say Sizemore has got to be one of the top 2 sellers in Tribe merchandise. Who beats him with the casual fan? Choo?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 21, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats true. Still not sure if that makes up the difference if you are gonna crunch numbers.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Jul 21, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Indians have a plethora of new/relatively new faces who collectively, if not individually, can pick up the slack.

Masterson, Chis, Kipnis, Droobs, Santana

by palcal on Jul 21, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hafner – especially with his comeback this season.

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Jul 21, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many Sizemore jerseys get sold in 2011 regardless, though? He’s been in the majors for about seven full seasons now, and he hasn’t been a star performer for two years. I’d guess that means lots of folks already have his jersey, and not too many new ones are being inspired to buy one.

by Jay on Jul 22, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are other Sizemore merchandising opps in the works, though. Skin grafts, groin tape, things like that.

by afh4 on Jul 22, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Coffee mugs.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 22, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Tote bags.

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on Jul 22, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someday, when the pain of promise lost is gone, I will buy a Sizemore coffee mug from an ironic Cleveland website.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 22, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

they sell stuff on cle.com?

by APV on Jul 22, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t support this but I’m willing to bet he still sold pretty well this year.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 22, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

this was my thinking too. people who would want his jersey already have his. my guess is Asdrubal is way outselling him and even Fausto (cause he was at least decent last year)

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Jul 22, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a chance Fausto is outselling him. I’ve always heard pitchers don’t sell well either way, but even then I can’t see it.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 22, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just went to the game. I only saw one guy with a sizemore jersey on. There were a few females with grady jerseys on, but women generally aren’t a big market for sports jerseys…at least not like men.

Also at the game, I saw a 10 year old girl with a chisenhall shirt. Its not just people buying the famous names, these young guys are getting popular. The most popular actually may be choo based on my observations.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Jul 23, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t Choo be expected to be the top seller for the past few years? He certainly was our best player for 2009-10.

by Jay on Jul 25, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I expect Casey Blake has been the top seller every year since his debut.

by afh4 on Jul 26, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sizemore must have a big patella

by APV on Jul 21, 2011 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Kipnis just tweeted “ITS TIME!!!” [sic]. Don’t know if it means what I hope it means, but…

by supersizeme on Jul 21, 2011 4:42 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

and what I hope it means is that I won’t have to see Orlando Cabrera, with the range and OPS of CC Sabathia, man 2nd base ever again.

by supersizeme on Jul 21, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I wouldn’t get too far out on that one. I think he’ll still play some 2B and continue to provide veteran leadership. But, he’ll play less if Kipnis does get the call.

By the way, CC’s lifetime OPS is .627, slightly higher than OC’s current .598. He’s taller too, so can catch high line drives!

by peter m on Jul 21, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention that his body covers a lot of real estate and would simply block balls from going to the outfield.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 21, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’d be like a hockey goalie covering the hole between 1st and 2nd.

Pitch every 5 days, standing at 2nd the other 4 days. Why didn’t we consider this before? If he’s filling 2 roster spots, he’s easily worth $25M per year.

by callmrplow on Jul 22, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

That would be awesome.

by emily522 on Jul 21, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you put that together with Valbuena going to Columbus, I think it is what you hope it means.

by Ryan on Jul 21, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

If there is one thing I have learned about ‘hidden’ injuries this year, is how constant pain in one part of your body leads to slight alterations/compensation in how you use the rest of your body, and subsequent injuries or at least pain in areas that seem unrelated. If Grady was regularly in pain due to the abdominal issue, it would most definitely affect his mechanics and explosiveness at the plate, and most likely performance in the field as well. Pain drains you, makes you hesitate – and in this level of sport, a fraction of second of hesitation is the difference between success and degrees of failure.

by DocNo on Jul 21, 2011 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Grady is made of tissue paper in place of actual connective tissue. Blaming a sports hernia for a gait disturbance that contributed to the knee injury…my god let’s stop with the excuses, the guy is frail.

by supermarioelia on Jul 21, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grady’s done. It’s just sad at this point. Feel bad for the guy. Worse for the team/fans.

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 21, 2011 6:07 PM EDT reply actions  

No way he cracks the Top 4 CFs in Tribe history unless he gets fully healthy.

by talonk on Jul 21, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’ll be remembered only by those who saw how he would sacrifice his body in his prime – and how he paid for it.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Jul 21, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup. He’ll be one of those guys we’re all telling our grandkids about one day. “Boy, he coulda been a Hall of Famer…”

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 22, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Our own Pete Reiser. That makes me sick.

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 22, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

It really is sad. He was on pace to be one of those players everyone remembers.

by Brad D on Jul 22, 2011 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup. As Craig Calcaterra mentioned, a couple years ago he was one of the players frequently mentioned in the “which player would you pick to build your team around” discussions. Now he can’t even stay on the field. It’s just sad — for him, for the team, and for the fans. He could have been an all-time great Indian.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 22, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

If it makes you feel any better Jeter sucks now too.

by callmrplow on Jul 22, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jeter has always sucked.

by Roger Dorn on Jul 22, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

How would that make me feel better? And what does that have to do with my comment?

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 22, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

(I see you finally had to change your avatar.)

by emily522 on Jul 22, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha, yeah I figured it was time.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 22, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here’s what I wrote about Grady for the 2009 Indians Annual:

“It’s only natural to wonder if an occasional day of rest would help an All-Star who’s only missed five games in three years… Given Sizemore’s clean health history and work ethic, it’s conceivable he’ll add another 75 points to his career OPS of 861 and win his first MVP.”

Siiiiiiiggghhhhhhhh

by tabler84 on Jul 21, 2011 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Did you write about a guy who hasn’t been on the DL multiple times?

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 21, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

FIRE TABLER84!

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jul 22, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

READ THIS, JAY!!!

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 22, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

In fairness, we don’t have any uninjured players that could prove this argument true.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Jul 22, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sizemore will be our generation’s biggest “what if?”

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 22, 2011 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m going to hate those commercials.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 22, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

What if … he only made it to the postseason once?

by Jay on Jul 22, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our very own Super Joe.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Jul 22, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Given his health issues, I hope he’s not trying to open beer bottles with his eye socket.

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on Jul 22, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

With his track record, that would almost undoubtedly lead to an impromptu lobotomy.

by Brad D on Jul 22, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting to see these sports hernia repairs become popular….actually diagnosed my first one a few weeks ago in a hockey goalie. Imaging’s tough, only recent expert opinion that real-time u/s is better than MRI in picking them up. But for Grady’s to recur and have multiple surgeries now…abdominal surgery ain’t no joke, adhesions later on can be a pain in the neck. I’m always amazed how quickly the pros jump to the knife.

by supermarioelia on Jul 21, 2011 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s nice to know that this “hidden injury” (I didn’t hear anything about Grady having a sports hernia until today – not sure if I missed it or if it was “hidden”) is being taken care of, but this partly baffles and annoys me.

If the Indians and Grady both knew there was a problem, and it sounds like they did from the tweets Andrew referenced, why didn’t the Indians and Grady decide to take care of this earlier? It’s not like Grady has been producing much since returning from that injury in May – he’s been one of the weakest cogs in the offense.

Presuming that this sports hernia was preventing him from hitting closer or at the level he was hitting in April, taking care of it sooner might have enabled them to avoid, or at least mitigate, that offensive drought they suffered in June, and really, still are in for the most part.

Having a consistent Sizemore who hit at or close to the level he hit in April would have likely made considerable difference in our offensive woes that began in June.

Outside of Hafner, who has probably been the most consistent Indian all year, everyone else in the lineup has gone through a slump of some sort. A. Cab. has been the next most-consistent, with just a slight dropoff (though he seems to have found that “hot” zone again, especially power-wise). Then, as expected with young players trying to establish themselves, Brantley, Santana, and LaPorta have had some good moments and streaks, and some notable dropoffs.

Combine that with Choo struggling for much of the season, then getting injured just about the time when he may have been finding himself, and it lends credence to the idea that Sizemore and the Indians may have been much better off having this sports hernia taken care of sooner rather than later.

I mean, it was admirable to an extent that Sizemore came back and tried to play through the injury, but I think everyone knew that Sizemore wasn’t producing close to the level he produced in April, and I don’t think pitchers all of a sudden just started figuring out how to dominate Sizemore in May when they had major trouble getting him out in April. This sports hernia may have been the missing link, and why Grady and the Indians decided to let him keep playing through it for this long when he wasn’t producing much offensively since late April when the offense was going well in April and May (that and the fact that the offense started faltering after Hafner was injured, NOT Sizemore when he went down in May) baffles and annoys me a bit.

I don’t want to knock the Indians too much – they’re on the right path both in the short and the long-term (and these TV and sports analysts, like Cleveland’s Tony Zarrella on CBS 19, who are suggesting that we make a major trade this year because you don’t know about next year are way off-base and not knowledgeable about the strength of the farm system and how small market teams are truly successful), but this “hiding” of Grady’s injury does baffle and annoy me for the reasons mentioned above.

Granted, some of this is in hindsight, but you’d think that Grady would have told the Indians after a week or two of coming back and not producing that he is doing more harm than good for the team and needs to get the sports hernia corrected so that he can help the team like he is capable of helping the team – that’s my biggest gripe. At some point, you need to realize when your play on the field is doing more harm than being out for a period of time to get more or totally healthy so that you can come back at or nearer to 100% and really be able to produce like you’re capable of and have shown in the past and even in April of this year.

While it’s only one part of the puzzle, admitting this injury sooner and taking care of it then might have led to the Indians still having a decent lead in the Central right now, since the offense probably would have been better off with a healthy Sizemore, one who is hitting more like he did in April, than the Sizemore who returned in May. That could have helped compensate for the rockier starting pitching the team has had since early to mid-June.

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Jul 21, 2011 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

The implication is that the Indians and Grady did not think he required surgery during the season, but since he is going to be shut down now with the knee, it makes sense to have this surgery now to improve the chances he will make a significant contribution in September.

by palcal on Jul 22, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s nice to know that this "hidden injury" (I didn’t hear anything about Grady having a sports hernia until today – not sure if I missed it or if it was "hidden") is being taken care of, but this partly baffles and annoys me.

Are you kidding…where ya been…we’ve been talking about this for WEEKS!!!

by TribeJay on Jul 22, 2011 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

If the timeline above is accurate, when the injury first occurred, I believe Hafner had just gone on the DL. If they felt he could play through it, then they let him because they didnt want to lose both Hafner and Sizemore that close together, especially when we had a 5+ game lead.

by talonk on Jul 22, 2011 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just your 75 cents?…..

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 22, 2011 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Can I get a nickel back?

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Jul 22, 2011 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

just you watch, Grady’s gonna come back and set the world on fire, hitting .450 with 11 HR in September and singlehandedly leading us to an undefeated september and into the postseason, where we will sweep the ALDS and ALCS (thanks to grady’s 4 HR in those series) and we will win the WS thanks to a (guess what?) grady sizemore walk-off grand slam in game 6.

just. you. watch.

by tr1betime on Jul 22, 2011 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

He will, however, acquire an incurable disease while rounding 3rd base on that grand slam — it will be the end of a spectacular, but all-too-brief career for the Indians great.

by peter m on Jul 22, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does he make it home with the winning run?

by kennesawmountainwahoo on Jul 22, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure — he’ll crawl, slowly and painfully towards the plate, touching it just as he breathes his last breath.

How’s that?

by peter m on Jul 22, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like the end of Robin Hood on BBC, I like it.

by Brad D on Jul 22, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s about the time the giant asteroid hits.

by kennesawmountainwahoo on Jul 22, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awwww. You already read the book!

by peter m on Jul 22, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome. I assume President Morgan Freeman delivers Sizemore’s eulogy.

by Jay on Jul 23, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’d be worth it.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 22, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He could be our Beltran.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 22, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you just have sex with a supermodel or something?

Lou Marson fan.

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 22, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I knew he needed some kind of surgery.

In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).

by V-Mart Shopper on Jul 24, 2011 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

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