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Game 120: Indians 4, White Sox 2


After losing the first game of the series, the pitching staff ensured the Indians left Chicago in better shape than when they arrived. Four runs a game at US Cellular Field is usually not enough to win, but they pulled it off thanks in large part to Carmona's 8.1 innings on Wednesday. For if the Indians had use Pestano or Smith in the second game of the series, they might not have been available to pitch in the finale, and that might have meant a different outcome to the game and the series.

The Indians received some bad news just before the game began. Jason Kipnis, who was in the starting lineup after missing several games with an oblique injury, was pulled at the last second because of an unrelated injury. He injured his hamstring while warming up before the game. He's been placed on the 15-day Disabled List, and that means the Indians will be without one of their major offensive weapons until at least the end of the month. Luis Valbuena will take Kipnis's place on the roster, and should share time at second base with Jason Donald.

Phillip Humber made his first career start against the Indians, but he had to leave the game very early. In the second inning, Kosuke Fukudome hit a line drive that struck Humber just above his right eye. It was a direct hit, knocking Humber off his feet, but fortunately he was not seriously injured. He got up immediately, but taken out of the game for precautionary reasons. So the Chicago bullpen, which had been used extensively in the series, would have to pitch the balance of the game.

The White Sox got on the board first when Paul Konerko hit a solo home run in the third inning. Masterson left a ball up and out over the plate to Konerko, who didn't miss the mistake. The Indians would respond almost immediately, as Matt LaPorta hit a home run of his own in the top of the fourth, though Matt's came with a runner on base. The White Sox tied the game in the bottom of the inning with a two-out RBI single by Tyler Flowers.

The Indians took the lead for good in the sixth when Shin-Soo Choo led off the inning with an infield single off left-hander Will Ohman, and Fukudome pulled a triple down the right field line. Ohman would then load the bases by walking Jack Hannahan and hitting Michael Brantley. Jason Frasor was summoned; he struck out Donald, but walked Asdrubal Cabrera to force home a run.

Masterson pitched the bottom of the sixth, and gave way to the bullpen. Rafael Perez and Joe Smith combined to retired the White Sox in order in the seventh, but Vinnie Pestano ran into serious trouble in the eighth. He gave up a rare hit to Adam Dunn, then after retiring the next two hitters, gave up a single to LGFT Omar Vizquel and walked Flowers to load the bases. He got out of the jam by striking out Gordon Beckham. Chris Perez pitched a 1-2-3 ninth to preserve the victory.

Detroit was off, so the win got the Indians a half-game closer to the division leaders. The Indians head to Detroit 1.5 games out of first place. Considering they were 2.5 games out when they started the Boston-Texas road trip, gaining a game despite playing all three first-place teams (two on the road) to start the month of August has been quite a feat. Now they have the opportunity to make it pay off with a good series in Detroit.

 

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via www.fangraphs.com


Highest WPA Lowest WPA
Fukudome .263 Donald -.163
Masterson .121 Hafner -.109
LaPorta .100 Brantley -.043

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Awesome….big series coming up

by APV on Aug 19, 2011 7:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Why LV instead of Robert?

OCab is no longer my bête noire.

by stuart dean on Aug 19, 2011 7:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Why is LV on the roster at all?

by JulioBernazard on Aug 19, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mentioned elsewhere: He will probably just ride the pine while Donald starts at 2nd. So while LV sits, Bob can get regular reps in AAA.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Aug 19, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

We will be in first tomorrow!

by AllenSmith on Aug 19, 2011 7:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Isn’t this impossible? We pick up only 1 game by beating Detroit tonight.

Though I guess they would be 1 GB in the loss column.

by barsham on Aug 19, 2011 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

not if we win today and tomorrow

by AllenSmith on Aug 19, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe we’re going to beat them so badly that it will be worth two wins?

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on Aug 19, 2011 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll work with you here…

OCab is no longer my bête noire.

by stuart dean on Aug 19, 2011 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Assuming two wins and Saturday’s game ends before 11:59pm, you could possibly be true.

by painaxl on Aug 19, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Phillip Humber made his first against the Indians, but he had to leave the game very early

first start?

by AllenSmith on Aug 19, 2011 7:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, it was his first start. It’s been fixed.

by Ryan on Aug 19, 2011 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sunday Night Baseball is … the Cardinals and the Cubs.

Lou Marson fan. Jason Donald advocate.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2011 8:37 AM EDT reply actions  

At least they’re showing tonight’s game on MLB Network.

by callmrplow on Aug 19, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm… Good game in a battle for first vs higher ratings in a battle between a distant 2nd place and terrible last place team?

Which one would espn choose?

by tr1betime on Aug 19, 2011 11:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I know we’ve hit the ESPN a lot lately, but man, this isn’t even East Coast Yankees/Red Sox nonsense.

It’s just crap.

Lou Marson fan. Jason Donald advocate.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is purely biased Indians fan perspective, but it really seems like ESPN has adopted the Cardinals as their “hey look we cover teams that aren’t on the coast(s)” team.

by tflannery on Aug 19, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

They throw the Giants a bone once in awhile, too.

by emd2k3 on Aug 19, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Umm…

"hey look we cover teams that aren’t on the coast(s)"

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on Aug 19, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Atlanta has been on a lot I think.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still pretty sure that’s a coast? I mean, 4 hours inland, but still.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 19, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess… But then you’re inviting all sorts of non-coastal teams to the mix. The Pirates… heck, the Buffalo Bills?

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Pirates are not four hours inland. They aren’t even four hours from Philly, let alone the ocean.

by Jay on Aug 20, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i swear i heard them mention the Brewers one time, too.

by tr1betime on Aug 19, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s because they have the best fans in the game, duh.

Trombone/creamy/soda.

by Joel D on Aug 19, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

And a gigantic market, geographically speaking.

by ameliorate on Aug 19, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, don’t take that away from the Astros … they’ve been more horrible than the Cubs.

by emd2k3 on Aug 19, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

And yet, their GM still has a job.

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on Aug 19, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

At what point in the season does tWWL start “flexing” their baseball offerings?

by JulioBernazard on Aug 19, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

How did you guys know I was wearing that fake retro Tribe Fila gear? Unnerving

by cheech99 on Aug 19, 2011 8:45 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

In your profile picture.

by afh4 on Aug 19, 2011 9:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The twitter profile pic. Got it.

Just funny because I have this Hafner jersey I wore last night that I picked up at K Mart that looks like a retro jersey but it was never any jersey the Tribe ever wore.

by cheech99 on Aug 19, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another positive to this series is it gives us a bit of separation from the White Sox.

by roywhitby on Aug 19, 2011 8:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah this was a big series for them and they failed to gain ground on us, so they can’t be happy with where they are at after it. Hopefully they continue to struggle (I believe they have Texas next).

by hans on Aug 19, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wahw! Given the differences in schedule challenges since Aug 1st, I expected to be sitting no better than 3 games behind the Tigers at this point – and that 3 game threshold was not a pessimistic estimate.

What’s nice about the 1.5 game differential is that this series is not a make-or-break situation. The pressure is on Detroit to take the series.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Aug 19, 2011 9:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Great series, but yet another brutal blow to the offense losing Kipnis. Will it never fully come together? I’m sure the MC Kitties could not be happier after they got Kipnified last time around. Time for Chiz to turn it up a notch and display some power.

by DocNo on Aug 19, 2011 9:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Been nice to see Fukudome contribute more as of late. He could make a big difference to the bottom part of our lineup down the stretch. Still wish he would walk more.

by Toxicadam on Aug 19, 2011 9:36 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m sure Acta appreciates it to a greater extent when he runs the bases, though.

Fear the Fedora.

by MooneysRebellion on Aug 19, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, and have been pleasantly surprised. He seemed like an goofy looking slap hitter, after the trade, but has really put some good swings on the ball of late. Hamilton said that the difference in his approach/balance at the plate has been night and day from how he looked after the trade.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 19, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

His swing has improved dramatically since immediately post-trade. At first I don’t believe I’ve even seen so many body parts flying in odd directions. I told my 17-year-old son to take a look at the new guy’s swing early on and he literally fell down on the floor laughing. Lately we’ve seen a most welcome transformation!

by playdoh on Aug 19, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm. Fukudome has 1 BB in 17 games with the Indians; with the Cubs this season, he had 46 walks in 87 games. His OBP with the Indians is a full 80% under his MLB average, which has been stable year to year. I think he’ll come around in that regard.

by Jeffrey R on Aug 19, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oops. 80 points lower, not 80%.

by Jeffrey R on Aug 19, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

He usually has pretty long at bats, I’ve noticed that hasn’t changed

Lou Marson fan. Jason Donald advocate.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe AL pitchers are more likely to challenge on a 3 ball count, etc.? I’m reaching here.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Aug 19, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

he is, but not as well as he does historically, though its still somewhat of an SSS and he has changed leagues.

I think by the end, he will drift towards the mean for his career. He isn’t that far off. He is taking 3.85 pitches per PA and his career average is 4.20. he seems to be swinging more (higher swinging strikes % and higher % of pitches swung at), especially at the first pitch where he swings 34% of the time. (compared to a career average of 29).

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Aug 19, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

If my math is correct the 27 outs Jeff Mathis has a firm hand in creating are 9 times more valuable than 3 he gives up with bat.#angels

http://twitter.com/#!/LyleMSpencer/status/103341075627913216

I just broke your brain, didn’t I?

by Toxicadam on Aug 19, 2011 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

The Vernon Wells trade was a suicide.

by jhon on Aug 19, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Where is that douchey writer out there who was such a proud defender of it when it happened?

by stuart dean on Aug 19, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Same guy Toxicadam just linked.

by afh4 on Aug 19, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Was at the game last night. My first time rooting for the Indians as the away team since waaaaaaaaaay back in 19something when I cheered them on against the Tigers in Tigers Stadium.

USCellular would be a fantastic park if it weren’t full of White Sox fans. Speaking of which, they’re the most responsive group of fans I’ve ever seen. When the scoreboard plays those “cheer” and “make noise” thingies, they really go for it.

They also all left in the 8th inning when their team was only down by 2 runs to the Cleveland Indians, so suck it, Chicago.

It was a really good night.

by Voltaire on Aug 19, 2011 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

My folks caught a Sosa-era game in Chicago when the Indians had the Cubs in interleague, and said the same thing about Cubs fans. Really loud for the singing between innings and Sosa at-bats, but otherwise apathetic and left early.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 19, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

They seemed ready to storm the field and murder Dunn every at-bat.

Every Konerko appearance was cheered as though he had just won them the World Series.

by Voltaire on Aug 19, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair, Konerko has been that team’s superstar for a number of years and has elevated to a truly elite status the last two. I don’t think their enthusiasm for him is unwarranted—he’s their equivalent of a Thome or Hafner, though not quite as good as either absolutely (but just as good in the context of his teammates).

I’ve never found White Sox fans to be any better or worse than anywhere else in terms of attention and enthusiasm for the game. It’s pretty common to criticize other fans for being fair-weather, or leaving early, or not knowing when to cheer, or whatever, but I think those qualities are universally true of all stadium crowds. The average fan in the Cell, or in the Jake, or in Yankee Stadium, or in Busch, doesn’t really know the players’ names, or the rules, and is interested in more dipping dots. That’s the nature of attending sporting events.

White Sox fans have gotten aggressively violent moreso than other places I’ve been, but that’s probably just a random sample effect.

by afh4 on Aug 19, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its been my experience that there is a huge difference in attentiveness and baseball knowledge between the average fan in Fenway or Busch Stadium versus the average fan in Angel Stadium or Petco Park.

by TKilbane on Aug 19, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

My gut reaction to that is: confirmation bias.

by afh4 on Aug 19, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll back that up, really. Red Sox fans at the park tend to be pretty attentive, stay through the game, and know their stuff. The ones on the street tend to be all ’DAYVID AHHHTIZ IS GONNA SMASH THAT WEAK STUFF PAPS IS THE BEST CLOSAH EVAH" type. Busch stadium truly does feature some great fans.

It all depends on the culture, really. Pretty subjective argument.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 19, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

People need to stop hyping the Busch stadium crowd. I’ve lived there for the past 10 years, and while the old timers are great, most are pretty bad. I can’t count the number of times i’ve seen a stadium wide ‘wave’ taking place during a close game with runners on in the 7th, 8th or 9th.

by tyler083 on Aug 19, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s a good thing. The Wave is terrible.

by ameliorate on Aug 19, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

And my gut reaction is confirmation bias bias.

Here’s something to think about: it also depends on where you sit in the stadium. In general I find more knowledgeable baseball fans in the bleachers than I do in the field boxes. But then again I could be biased.

Our best players wear suits.

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

more knowledgeable baseball fans in the bleachers than I do in the field boxes

Completely agree.

by TKilbane on Aug 19, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It also depends on what time of year you go, and what the promotion is, and the starter, and on and on and on. The variables in play are immense, which is exactly why I don’t think any town has particularly good or bad fans on average—it’s a total crapshoot.

by afh4 on Aug 19, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

It seems sort of silly to not accept regional differences. People on the east coast love baseball. People in the south and most parts of the midwest love football. Outside of a few pockets, people on the west coast just don’t care as much about sports. They are going to arrive later, leave earlier and care just as much about the quality of sushi they are served as they are the score of the game. It’s just the way it is. Similar to comparing the average American soccer fan to a European one.

by TKilbane on Aug 19, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

No question, the field boxes are where the least knowledgeable fans are.

by Jay on Aug 20, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Average fans that go to the games at these parks are different from average fans of these teams. I’m struck at Fenway by the appearance of an older crowd – very few kids compared to most other stadiums. And that’s easy to understand since it costs $50 to get a seat where you feel comfortable bringing a child. Thus, you have fewer parents (who might attend the game only for the kids’ sake) with less knowledge and more hardcore 20-somethings attending. That’s just one segment. We can look at other segments, but the financial conditions for attending each of the stadiums lead to very different demographics and fan-types actually sitting in the seats.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Aug 19, 2011 3:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It’s pretty common to criticize other fans for being fair-weather, or leaving early, or not knowing when to cheer, or whatever, but I think those qualities are universally true of all stadium crowds. The average fan in the Cell, or in the Jake, or in Yankee Stadium, or in Busch, doesn’t really know the players’ names, or the rules, and is interested in more dipping dots. That’s the nature of attending sporting events.

Oh yes, absolutely. I agree with all of this. Had the game been at the Jake, fans would have left in the eighth because we had it “wrapped up” and they wanted to beat traffic.

I simply meant that, when the scoreboard says cheer, at the Jake you’ll get about a 2/3 reaction from the stadium, maybe people going crazy if it really is a tight moment in the game. At USCellular they went crazy every time. It wasn’t meant as a criticism or praise, just a distinct difference.

by Voltaire on Aug 19, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have enough fans and people downtown to make, “Traffic” ?

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 19, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Their fans are sheep who are incapable of cheering on their own without help from the scoreboard?

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on Aug 19, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where are the suspicions about Konerko?

He averaged 1.7 WAR from age 23 to 33. Then suddenly he’s tripling that at age 34-35?

by Jay on Aug 19, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

he has also never played during a Blue Jays game, leading to the possibility that he is the guy who relays Bautista pitch signals. Then they hang out after each game and share, umm, how should we put this…

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t have any suspicions about anyone.

by afh4 on Aug 19, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Understand, I’m not looking to vilify anyone, and on a moral basis I don’t even care, just looking for fairness and a consistent standard.

by Jay on Aug 20, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

its an interesting point. I’d say probably not, but if so I think its more of using for health rather than adding power.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Aug 20, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

But that can be said of nearly all PED use.

by Jay on Aug 20, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this is often overlooked.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Aug 21, 2011 4:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree. Sat in the nosebleeds on Tuesday and witnessed a near-fight between Sox and Tribe fans. Beer muscles galore in both camps. We had to move seats just to enjoy the game. Benefitted from everyone leaving early to snag some seats in row 10 3B side for the extra frames.

Len Barker Perfect Game Attendee

by PortlandVinny on Aug 19, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone know how long kip is expecte to be out for? Shouldn’t his DL stint be retroactive to like a week ago? So if all goes well could he be back by next week?

by tr1betime on Aug 19, 2011 11:04 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

The injury was supposedly unrelated to what he’s been sitting out for this last week. Didn’t he injure himself running in the outfield before the game?

My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts.

by Ockus_NYC on Aug 19, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

i know, but even if the injury is different than the one he was originally sidelined for shouldn’t his DL stint be retroactive to last week or whenever he last played? so if he miraculously heals in the next week he can come back? just wondering

by tr1betime on Aug 19, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

DL stint is always retroactive to the player’s last appearance.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Aug 19, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

but there’s a chance yesterday counts as an appearance? maybe? Nobody knew he wasn’t playing until Donald showed up in the on deck circle.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you think being in the lineup but not playing counts? if it does that would be a load of baloney

by tr1betime on Aug 19, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

It might count. If it does, it’s not so much a load of baloney as a horrible error by the club.

by Jay on Aug 19, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

tribeinsider Cleveland Indians
Jason Kipnis placed on 15-day DL (hamstring), retro to Aug 14. OF Shelley Duncan recalled from AAA Columbus to assume his spot…more…

Not sure if the “tribeinsider” account is official, but it seems like good news.

by tflannery on Aug 19, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

News is that he needs three weeks to heal from the hamstring injury, so the date he went on the DL doesn’t matter much.

by FredOx on Aug 19, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was worried about this as well, but the quotes from Acta on indians.com clarify that the change was made before the lineups were officially handed in to the umpires.

by TribeJay on Aug 19, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good question. I would lean towards no, because he didn’t have a plate appearance and he didn’t play defense.

by Ryan on Aug 19, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems like it would be dependent on whether the lineup was official or not. If the quote below is accurate, it would indicate that it wasn’t.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Aug 19, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Err, quote above.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Aug 19, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

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