Game 120: Indians 4, White Sox 2
After losing the first game of the series, the pitching staff ensured the Indians left Chicago in better shape than when they arrived. Four runs a game at US Cellular Field is usually not enough to win, but they pulled it off thanks in large part to Carmona's 8.1 innings on Wednesday. For if the Indians had use Pestano or Smith in the second game of the series, they might not have been available to pitch in the finale, and that might have meant a different outcome to the game and the series.
The Indians received some bad news just before the game began. Jason Kipnis, who was in the starting lineup after missing several games with an oblique injury, was pulled at the last second because of an unrelated injury. He injured his hamstring while warming up before the game. He's been placed on the 15-day Disabled List, and that means the Indians will be without one of their major offensive weapons until at least the end of the month. Luis Valbuena will take Kipnis's place on the roster, and should share time at second base with Jason Donald.
Phillip Humber made his first career start against the Indians, but he had to leave the game very early. In the second inning, Kosuke Fukudome hit a line drive that struck Humber just above his right eye. It was a direct hit, knocking Humber off his feet, but fortunately he was not seriously injured. He got up immediately, but taken out of the game for precautionary reasons. So the Chicago bullpen, which had been used extensively in the series, would have to pitch the balance of the game.
The White Sox got on the board first when Paul Konerko hit a solo home run in the third inning. Masterson left a ball up and out over the plate to Konerko, who didn't miss the mistake. The Indians would respond almost immediately, as Matt LaPorta hit a home run of his own in the top of the fourth, though Matt's came with a runner on base. The White Sox tied the game in the bottom of the inning with a two-out RBI single by Tyler Flowers.
The Indians took the lead for good in the sixth when Shin-Soo Choo led off the inning with an infield single off left-hander Will Ohman, and Fukudome pulled a triple down the right field line. Ohman would then load the bases by walking Jack Hannahan and hitting Michael Brantley. Jason Frasor was summoned; he struck out Donald, but walked Asdrubal Cabrera to force home a run.
Masterson pitched the bottom of the sixth, and gave way to the bullpen. Rafael Perez and Joe Smith combined to retired the White Sox in order in the seventh, but Vinnie Pestano ran into serious trouble in the eighth. He gave up a rare hit to Adam Dunn, then after retiring the next two hitters, gave up a single to LGFT Omar Vizquel and walked Flowers to load the bases. He got out of the jam by striking out Gordon Beckham. Chris Perez pitched a 1-2-3 ninth to preserve the victory.
Detroit was off, so the win got the Indians a half-game closer to the division leaders. The Indians head to Detroit 1.5 games out of first place. Considering they were 2.5 games out when they started the Boston-Texas road trip, gaining a game despite playing all three first-place teams (two on the road) to start the month of August has been quite a feat. Now they have the opportunity to make it pay off with a good series in Detroit.

| Highest WPA | Lowest WPA | ||
| Fukudome | .263 | Donald | -.163 |
| Masterson | .121 | Hafner | -.109 |
| LaPorta | .100 | Brantley | -.043 |
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Isn’t this impossible? We pick up only 1 game by beating Detroit tonight.
Though I guess they would be 1 GB in the loss column.
Maybe we’re going to beat them so badly that it will be worth two wins?
@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff
by woodsmeister on Aug 19, 2011 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Phillip Humber made his first against the Indians, but he had to leave the game very early
first start?
Sunday Night Baseball is … the Cardinals and the Cubs.
Lou Marson fan. Jason Donald advocate.
by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2011 8:37 AM EDT reply actions
Hmm… Good game in a battle for first vs higher ratings in a battle between a distant 2nd place and terrible last place team?
Which one would espn choose?
by tr1betime on Aug 19, 2011 11:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I know we’ve hit the ESPN a lot lately, but man, this isn’t even East Coast Yankees/Red Sox nonsense.
It’s just crap.
Lou Marson fan. Jason Donald advocate.
by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
This is purely biased Indians fan perspective, but it really seems like ESPN has adopted the Cardinals as their “hey look we cover teams that aren’t on the coast(s)” team.
Umm…
"hey look we cover teams that aren’t on the coast(s)"
My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw
by Turkmenbashi on Aug 19, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Atlanta has been on a lot I think.
"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady
Still pretty sure that’s a coast? I mean, 4 hours inland, but still.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on Aug 19, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess… But then you’re inviting all sorts of non-coastal teams to the mix. The Pirates… heck, the Buffalo Bills?
"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady
And yet, their GM still has a job.
@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff
by woodsmeister on Aug 19, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
At what point in the season does tWWL start “flexing” their baseball offerings?
by JulioBernazard on Aug 19, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
How did you guys know I was wearing that fake retro Tribe Fila gear? Unnerving
by cheech99 on Aug 19, 2011 8:45 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Wahw! Given the differences in schedule challenges since Aug 1st, I expected to be sitting no better than 3 games behind the Tigers at this point – and that 3 game threshold was not a pessimistic estimate.
What’s nice about the 1.5 game differential is that this series is not a make-or-break situation. The pressure is on Detroit to take the series.
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin
by Spidey on Aug 19, 2011 9:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Been nice to see Fukudome contribute more as of late. He could make a big difference to the bottom part of our lineup down the stretch. Still wish he would walk more.
I’m sure Acta appreciates it to a greater extent when he runs the bases, though.
Fear the Fedora.
by MooneysRebellion on Aug 19, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree, and have been pleasantly surprised. He seemed like an goofy looking slap hitter, after the trade, but has really put some good swings on the ball of late. Hamilton said that the difference in his approach/balance at the plate has been night and day from how he looked after the trade.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on Aug 19, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
His swing has improved dramatically since immediately post-trade. At first I don’t believe I’ve even seen so many body parts flying in odd directions. I told my 17-year-old son to take a look at the new guy’s swing early on and he literally fell down on the floor laughing. Lately we’ve seen a most welcome transformation!
Hmm. Fukudome has 1 BB in 17 games with the Indians; with the Cubs this season, he had 46 walks in 87 games. His OBP with the Indians is a full 80% under his MLB average, which has been stable year to year. I think he’ll come around in that regard.
He usually has pretty long at bats, I’ve noticed that hasn’t changed
Lou Marson fan. Jason Donald advocate.
by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
he is, but not as well as he does historically, though its still somewhat of an SSS and he has changed leagues.
I think by the end, he will drift towards the mean for his career. He isn’t that far off. He is taking 3.85 pitches per PA and his career average is 4.20. he seems to be swinging more (higher swinging strikes % and higher % of pitches swung at), especially at the first pitch where he swings 34% of the time. (compared to a career average of 29).
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
If my math is correct the 27 outs Jeff Mathis has a firm hand in creating are 9 times more valuable than 3 he gives up with bat.#angels
http://twitter.com/#!/LyleMSpencer/status/103341075627913216
I just broke your brain, didn’t I?
Where is that douchey writer out there who was such a proud defender of it when it happened?
by stuart dean on Aug 19, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Was at the game last night. My first time rooting for the Indians as the away team since waaaaaaaaaay back in 19something when I cheered them on against the Tigers in Tigers Stadium.
USCellular would be a fantastic park if it weren’t full of White Sox fans. Speaking of which, they’re the most responsive group of fans I’ve ever seen. When the scoreboard plays those “cheer” and “make noise” thingies, they really go for it.
They also all left in the 8th inning when their team was only down by 2 runs to the Cleveland Indians, so suck it, Chicago.
It was a really good night.
My folks caught a Sosa-era game in Chicago when the Indians had the Cubs in interleague, and said the same thing about Cubs fans. Really loud for the singing between innings and Sosa at-bats, but otherwise apathetic and left early.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on Aug 19, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
They seemed ready to storm the field and murder Dunn every at-bat.
Every Konerko appearance was cheered as though he had just won them the World Series.
To be fair, Konerko has been that team’s superstar for a number of years and has elevated to a truly elite status the last two. I don’t think their enthusiasm for him is unwarranted—he’s their equivalent of a Thome or Hafner, though not quite as good as either absolutely (but just as good in the context of his teammates).
I’ve never found White Sox fans to be any better or worse than anywhere else in terms of attention and enthusiasm for the game. It’s pretty common to criticize other fans for being fair-weather, or leaving early, or not knowing when to cheer, or whatever, but I think those qualities are universally true of all stadium crowds. The average fan in the Cell, or in the Jake, or in Yankee Stadium, or in Busch, doesn’t really know the players’ names, or the rules, and is interested in more dipping dots. That’s the nature of attending sporting events.
White Sox fans have gotten aggressively violent moreso than other places I’ve been, but that’s probably just a random sample effect.
Its been my experience that there is a huge difference in attentiveness and baseball knowledge between the average fan in Fenway or Busch Stadium versus the average fan in Angel Stadium or Petco Park.
I’ll back that up, really. Red Sox fans at the park tend to be pretty attentive, stay through the game, and know their stuff. The ones on the street tend to be all ’DAYVID AHHHTIZ IS GONNA SMASH THAT WEAK STUFF PAPS IS THE BEST CLOSAH EVAH" type. Busch stadium truly does feature some great fans.
It all depends on the culture, really. Pretty subjective argument.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on Aug 19, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
People need to stop hyping the Busch stadium crowd. I’ve lived there for the past 10 years, and while the old timers are great, most are pretty bad. I can’t count the number of times i’ve seen a stadium wide ‘wave’ taking place during a close game with runners on in the 7th, 8th or 9th.
And my gut reaction is confirmation bias bias.
Here’s something to think about: it also depends on where you sit in the stadium. In general I find more knowledgeable baseball fans in the bleachers than I do in the field boxes. But then again I could be biased.
Our best players wear suits.
It also depends on what time of year you go, and what the promotion is, and the starter, and on and on and on. The variables in play are immense, which is exactly why I don’t think any town has particularly good or bad fans on average—it’s a total crapshoot.
It seems sort of silly to not accept regional differences. People on the east coast love baseball. People in the south and most parts of the midwest love football. Outside of a few pockets, people on the west coast just don’t care as much about sports. They are going to arrive later, leave earlier and care just as much about the quality of sushi they are served as they are the score of the game. It’s just the way it is. Similar to comparing the average American soccer fan to a European one.
Average fans that go to the games at these parks are different from average fans of these teams. I’m struck at Fenway by the appearance of an older crowd – very few kids compared to most other stadiums. And that’s easy to understand since it costs $50 to get a seat where you feel comfortable bringing a child. Thus, you have fewer parents (who might attend the game only for the kids’ sake) with less knowledge and more hardcore 20-somethings attending. That’s just one segment. We can look at other segments, but the financial conditions for attending each of the stadiums lead to very different demographics and fan-types actually sitting in the seats.
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin
by Spidey on Aug 19, 2011 3:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It’s pretty common to criticize other fans for being fair-weather, or leaving early, or not knowing when to cheer, or whatever, but I think those qualities are universally true of all stadium crowds. The average fan in the Cell, or in the Jake, or in Yankee Stadium, or in Busch, doesn’t really know the players’ names, or the rules, and is interested in more dipping dots. That’s the nature of attending sporting events.
Oh yes, absolutely. I agree with all of this. Had the game been at the Jake, fans would have left in the eighth because we had it “wrapped up” and they wanted to beat traffic.
I simply meant that, when the scoreboard says cheer, at the Jake you’ll get about a 2/3 reaction from the stadium, maybe people going crazy if it really is a tight moment in the game. At USCellular they went crazy every time. It wasn’t meant as a criticism or praise, just a distinct difference.
We have enough fans and people downtown to make, “Traffic” ?
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on Aug 19, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Their fans are sheep who are incapable of cheering on their own without help from the scoreboard?
@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff
by woodsmeister on Aug 19, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Where are the suspicions about Konerko?
He averaged 1.7 WAR from age 23 to 33. Then suddenly he’s tripling that at age 34-35?
he has also never played during a Blue Jays game, leading to the possibility that he is the guy who relays Bautista pitch signals. Then they hang out after each game and share, umm, how should we put this…
"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady
its an interesting point. I’d say probably not, but if so I think its more of using for health rather than adding power.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Agree. Sat in the nosebleeds on Tuesday and witnessed a near-fight between Sox and Tribe fans. Beer muscles galore in both camps. We had to move seats just to enjoy the game. Benefitted from everyone leaving early to snag some seats in row 10 3B side for the extra frames.
Len Barker Perfect Game Attendee
by PortlandVinny on Aug 19, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone know how long kip is expecte to be out for? Shouldn’t his DL stint be retroactive to like a week ago? So if all goes well could he be back by next week?
by tr1betime on Aug 19, 2011 11:04 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
The injury was supposedly unrelated to what he’s been sitting out for this last week. Didn’t he injure himself running in the outfield before the game?
My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts.
i know, but even if the injury is different than the one he was originally sidelined for shouldn’t his DL stint be retroactive to last week or whenever he last played? so if he miraculously heals in the next week he can come back? just wondering
DL stint is always retroactive to the player’s last appearance.
Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.
but there’s a chance yesterday counts as an appearance? maybe? Nobody knew he wasn’t playing until Donald showed up in the on deck circle.
"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady
It might count. If it does, it’s not so much a load of baloney as a horrible error by the club.
by Jay on Aug 19, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
tribeinsider Cleveland Indians
Jason Kipnis placed on 15-day DL (hamstring), retro to Aug 14. OF Shelley Duncan recalled from AAA Columbus to assume his spot…more…
Not sure if the “tribeinsider” account is official, but it seems like good news.

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