Denver or Cleveland, Denver or Cleveland? Let's be honest, ill take Denver. With the exception of a few people.
Alex White, via Twitter. If you're one of those who keeps a list, add him to it, I suppose.
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If I were his agent I would put him in Twitter jail right now.
@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff
I have no problem with this. The guy should be allowed to speak his mind, even if people don’t like it. And it may help endear him to his new fanbase.
by 7foot3 on Aug 2, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Different fan bases though. Most people not from Cleveland would probably prefer Denver, so Jimenez saying that is a big deal.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
If we’re going to get even the slightest bit upset about a player saying something that isn’t smart, the line of athletes who deserve criticism starts well before White.
Me, too. It was unnecessary and makes him look immature.
by JulioBernazard on Aug 2, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
What do you expect him to say? That he prefers Cleveland? You do realize that he plays for the Colorado Rockies now, right?
Well, he could just say that he’s excited to get to Denver, it’s a great city, etc. The parting shot at the city of Cleveland was unnecessary and just makes him look an ass.
by jdudas on Aug 2, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good one
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin
by Spidey on Aug 2, 2011 6:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So?
"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl
by world dictator on Aug 2, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
If you’re one of those who keeps a list, add him to it, I suppose.
I, for one, do not keep a list. Just passing it along.
1. Art Modell
2. LebWrong
3. Sam Wyche
4. David Wells
5. Ichiro
by JulioBernazard on Aug 2, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
He said he’d never go to Cleveland, because a bunch of fans razzed him about his mom after she died. Of course it goes without saying that the fans probably had no idea that his mom had died. Indians security did some kind of an investigation, ended up making a public statement that implied that Wells might have just imagined the entire thing.
Not to mention the fact that, having sat in the NYY bleachers, I can assure you that the “Creatures” are not particularly kind to opposing OFs.
by JulioBernazard on Aug 3, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t Rondo make a Twitter crack about Clevelanders’ style or something, too?
by JulioBernazard on Aug 3, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh, he’s still a young guy — not really a “professional.” I don’t get upset at people for speaking their feelings.
yes, I give him a pass somewhat for being young but even for a 23 year old, its immature (though less immature relatively if lets say he is a veteran)
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
He has no obligation to live up to a romanticized notion of the consummate professional.
"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl
by world dictator on Aug 2, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course he does. He has a professional obligation, as he is a professional.
by Jay on Aug 2, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
“Professional”. Now there’s an overused word with an ephmeral definition. But there is one constant. Somebody that does what he does for money. In that sense he’s a “professional”. As to the rest it’s up for discussion.
Our best players wear suits.
This pretty much sums up my feelings.
"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl
by world dictator on Aug 3, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
The key word in the statement is “romanticized”. Being a major league baseball player does not require someone to act like they have the personality of an anatomically incorrect ken doll.
"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl
by world dictator on Aug 3, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh. Whatever. It’s immature, but hardly felonious. And it’s likely to earn him some excitement from Rockies fans.
I’m giving him respect for the “Dumb and Dumber” quote that he posted right before that.
by Nat on Aug 2, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and let’s please never become the kind of fan site that attacks anyone for saying anything remotely negative about Cleveland, even if it’s true. I mean, if we had to spend extended time in Cleveland or Denver, which would we choose? It’s not crazy to say Denver, right?
I may be an irrational Cleveland booster, but I also don’t believe it should be in the business of a Cleveland baseball team fan site to encourage anti-Cleveland sentiment.
Not talking about White specifically here, though. My reaction to him was:
“eh, what a knob” —> unfollow —> move on
My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw
Wow, y’all take me way too serious. Relax cleveland I loved my time there. I have no choice where I am. Just following the path god laid out
Hilarious and predictable. White on Twitter, again. Agents need to coach these guys better.
Clevelander inferiority complex rearing its ugly head again?
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Aug 2, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, it is hard to interpret that original tweet as anything but a small dig at Cleveland.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
I don’t think they should, and I don’t hold that against him. If he likes Denver and hates Cleveland that’s fine by me. I didn’t say otherwise.
But interpreting that as a dig at Cleveland is not just the Cleveland inferiority complex.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
To continue, treating it as anything other than at least a small dig at the city seems willfully blind to me. I don’t care what Alex White says about Cleveland, but let’s at least be honest about it.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
It’s not a dig to prefer some other city to Cleveland. It is definitely a dig, however, to make a point of saying so in public, when nothing need be said at all.
It’s not an inferiority complex, it’s basic PR, or, if you prefer, manners.
by Jay on Aug 2, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I seem to recall you reacting somewhat differently when it was Columbus being criticized on this site.
Alex White is free to think, and say, whatever he wants. But when he’s posted a couple dozen tweets, to use one to make an unnecessary dig on the city he just left is bound to make a lot of people angry. He could have just praised Denver, an entirely praiseworthy city.
Thanks for a great time, Cleveland. Looking forward to new opportunities and getting to know Denver.
Done.
@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff
Yeah, that’s easy to say now. He was just a young guy giving his thoughts after during an emotional time. People are too quick to jump on athletes (and other people) for not saying the “right thing” all the time, especially when most of those people are still quite young. We’ve all said dumb things when we were young, we just didn’t have anyone listening to us or caring what we said or following us on Twitter.
I understand to a degree, but I think he should also understand that people will pay attention to what he says. It’s an added responsibility that comes with being a pro athlete. He needs to understand that his situation is different from that of the common fan.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
I am 20. I can think rationally during much more emotional times and still come up with more neutral statements than he came up with. Its all about your own personal maturity (independent of age) and your intelligence/foresight.
maybe I just think about things too much but I would think twice about reactions I would get if I posted something like that on my facebook…and thats just my friends.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I seem to recall you reacting somewhat differently when it was Columbus being criticized on this site.
Not really. A few people here called Columbus a “hellhole” — much stronger words than anything White said, by the way — and I was just curious why they felt so strongly about the city. I was more amused than anything else about it. People I have met from Columbus aren’t very different from people I’ve met from Cleveland, so I didn’t see why there was such strong hatred from a few people for the city of Columbus. I get that Columbus has grown while Cleveland has declined so there is some jealousy, but I never thought it was so strong in a few people.
But Columbus isn’t my hometown so I really don’t care if anyone likes it or not. If people don’t like it, though, I’m curious why not.
Despite being an OSU fan (and living in Cleveland for 13 years), I’ve never been to Columbus. A friend goes to OSU, so I hope to visit her there someday. Seems like a cool place.
If you haven’t been there, I can’t imagine what could seem cool about Columbus, unless you’re at a point in your life when simply getting hammered with tens of thousands of college kids is cool.
If you have been there, it’s even harder to imagine what could seem cool about it.
by Jay on Aug 2, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good Lord, yes. There comes a point where you view such scenes like a heard of cattle, if cattle could be embarrasing and destructive.
by Jay on Aug 2, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
It probably has a lot to do with the fact that a) I’m in college, b) still an OSU fan, and c) I’ve heard various friends of mine say they like it.
I will probably never live in Columbus, because it’s highly unlikely that I will ever have a reason to move there.
Your friends like being in college. They probably don’t know the first thing about Columbus.
by Jay on Aug 2, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
There are. They blow the doors off of Chipotle in terms of both price and quality.
Trombone/creamy/soda.
Columbus has some great neighborhoods, but lacks an overall identity. People who live there still tend to identify with the part of the state that they migrated from unless they live on the beltline where the culture is Generic American™.
But if any city is gonna criticized in this thread, it should be Denver.
by PBH on Aug 2, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
We don’t even care enough about Denver to give it flack. I mean, Denver — who gives a crap? That could be their motto.
I think it’s one of LGT’s nice little charms that every few months, we take a dump on Columbus. It is a shame that some folks here don’t enjoy it.
by Jay on Aug 2, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
3’s easy: German Village, Short North, Harrison West. I also enjoy Old town East and live in Grandview. Clintonville alright too.
German Village is a dump. Usta live there on Siebert and Grant you can have it. Noisy, full of “cutesy” bars, Parma’s got more culturre. Lived in Clintonville – 2599 North 4th – more hillbillys per square meter than West Virginia. Lived in Grandview – on King and Northview – not a lot going on there either. Short North is nice – if you like 3 dollar whores and tweekers.
Nope, sorry, not you can have it. I’d rather live in East Cleveland.
Our best players wear suits.
I’d rather live in East Cleveland.
Whoa now, let’s not say things we might regret.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
I’ve been in east cleveland. No one wants to live in East Cleveland.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Yup, I suspect none of these were recent living stops for you. German Village simply cannot be considered a dump with cutsey bars, that’s just not a credible opinion. I totally disagree.
Oh, and East Cleveland? Parma? I would argue that Cleveland has better neighborhoods, but you aren’t really making a good argument with those.
Here’s one thing that hasn’t changed: German Village is cheek to jowl with Parsons Ave and Whittier Park borders some of the worst housing in Columbus. A few of my friends tell me that break-ins and car theft is still a big deal in GV.
My in-laws still live offa Dublin Rd. in The Woods, so I get back to Columbus more often than I would like.
As to cutesy bars, isn’t Max and Erma’s still on South 3rd? And have they moved Schmitt’s? I’d rather get a burger at Karb’s on E65th in Slavic Village. At least there’s some actual Slavs in Slavic Village.
Our best players wear suits.
I can’t imagine what could seem cool about Columbus, unless you’re at a point in your life when simply getting hammered with tens of thousands of college kids is cool.
I don’t really want to start a long discussion, but if you think that’s all there is to do in Columbus then you really don’t know very much about the city.
We’re talking about Columbus as compared with other towns. One of the few things that really distinguishes Columbus is the massive legion of drunken college kids. I am well aware that there are lots of terrible bands to see there, too.
by Jay on Aug 2, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Even though I live in Columbus, I have to rec this.
@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff
Yeah, music scene below is below average. Food scene is developing, but not many special or unique experiences. German Village is a charming cute neighborhood. Short North is a modern and there are lots of art galleries.
What is unique about Columbus? one of the two largest college campuses in the country. its a quickly growing, changing and developing city in the midwest. As LGT friendly as any city in the country. state capital of very large state.
It doesn’t have the character or tradition of a Cleveland and that will keep me from loving it here, but it is a nice town… and it is surprisingly easy to live a mile from Ohio Stadium and forget OSU is in your back yard.
As LGBT friendly as any city in the country? Can you really back that up?
Lots of people from my high school went to OSU, including a noticeably high proportion of the a-holes. Two of my brothers have degrees from there, one of them a B.A. (after transferring from Indiana) and the other and M.B.A. (actually a highly rated B-school), so I have spent some time there.
You want LBBT friendly? Try German Village. Not a lot of germans there, but you can find a hair-dresser there in seconds.
Our best players wear suits.
Doesn’t Columbus have the 3rd largest gay community? That is what I always heard – behind SF and Houston.
Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.
Yeah, city size has to be considered. Columbus might have the third largest proportional gay population or something, but I can’t imagine it has a larger gay community than LA, NYC, or Chicago. Perhaps I’m wrong, though.
I did use wikipedia for this, but LA, NYC, and Chicago all are the top 3 in the total numbers of gay population
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Total numbers, yes, but the percentage of population is strikingly low (4-6%). Columbus falls in line percentage wise with the the NYs and Chicagos, but seems to have a uniquely rich culture for it – it was even ranked the most underrated city for gay travelers in an article.
According to Wiki, the cities that contain the largest concentration of LGBT community are SF (15.4%), then Seattle, Atlanta, Minneapolis & Boston (all 12-13%). Wiki
Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.
The problem with being a traveler in Columbus, gay or otherwise, is that you’re in Columbus on your vacation.
by afh4 on Aug 3, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yep, I was merely pointing out that they have a ton just because they are huge.
On the same wikipedia article, they do mention columbus and the short north district has having a very strong gay community
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Well, if you’ve been to teh Short North in the last 4 years or so, no other proof would be needed. But since you asked:
http://614columbus.com/article/why-is-columbus-so-gay-2153/
http://www.10tv.com/live/content/local/stories/2011/07/12/story-columbus-gay-friendly-city.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/07/20/the-20-gayest-cities-in-america.html
(I feel like we may have had this conversation a year ago, but have you been to Columbus in the last 5 years? One of the city’s unqiue advantages to others in this part of the country is that it is growing and changing very quickly. That has its downsides too, but from downtown parks to growing companies, to Huntington Park, to a developing food appreciation, this ain’t Columbus 1990’s or even 2007.)
For whatever its worth, having never lived in Columbus (though visited a few times) I view it as an attractive place because it gives me a viable path back into my home state as a full-time resident.
I have always thought that Columbus shares much of the same things that make Cleveland attractive, without a lot of the corruption and negative political/economic landscape that has contributed to Cleveland’s inability to grow along with Columbus.
It also happens to be within a couple hours drive of all of my favorite sports teams, which is something I haven’t enjoyed in quite a long time.
I live in Columbus. I like Columbus. With that said, Columbus is not “cool” by any stretch of the imagination. There are some nice, fun things to do pretty cheaply, which suits me just fine. I’m a boring, uncool guy, living in a boring, uncool city, and it suits me well. I can see where other people might not find it that great though.
Cinci, to BuckeyeBrad’s point above, is a hellhole.
Trombone/creamy/soda.
Cinci is a hellhole. I’m really yet to hear an argument for it that makes any sense.
Formerly fwembt
I love Cincinnati.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
When the end of the world comes, I want to be in Cincinnati because it’s always twenty years behind the times.
— Mark Twain, 1883
by PBH on Aug 2, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Big old city with history and character. Turning around some previously crappy neighborhoods (Over the Rhine). I like the area around UC. I don’t know the city too well since I haven’t lived there since I was nine, but when I go back to visit friends it seems like they’ve got their own versions of Ohio City or Lakewood. The city has culture. A lot of things suck about Cinci, but that’s true of any city.
I have a lot of hipster friends (for lack of a better word) and enjoy hipstery things, and Cincinnati seems to have that stuff.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Aug 3, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s safe, easy to get around in, seasonal, has major league sports (hockey, soccer) is a quick drive to 2 other major league venues (Cincy, Cleveland), is relatively stable economically due to being a state capital, is considerably wealthy compared to other cities in the Midwest (Cleveland, etc.).
You also get major college sports (even if you’re not a Buckeye fan), and your own personal airport.
Oh, and the personal airport can basically get you almost anywhere else in the U.S. in 4 hours or less.
Not cool, but whatever.
That’s most of what I like about it. Some good restaurants, but I’ll take Cleveland in that department. Plenty of good concerts to fit my taste in music, but again, nothing in the concert venue that sets it apart from Cleveland. I’m an OSU student so I live here by default but Crew and Blue Jackets are definitely a big draw for me in hindsight.
“Major league sports”
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Aug 2, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wanted to make a snide comment about the Crew, but I’m a Jackets fan.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Aug 3, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t like Columbus. It’s too new. Everything feels so forced. It’s a giant college town with no real personality of it’s own. There’s no real downtown area and it seems lacking in things most big cities have, like museums, history, orchestras/theater, professional sports teams, etc. It seems like too many people moved in from somewhere else, rather than growing up in the area, sort of like Florida or something.
Don’t get me wrong, I’ve never had a bad time in Columbus. It’s a decent city. I just think it’s a victim of it’s age (or lack thereof). It just feels so planned, in a bad way. As it ages most of these issues will fall away. Right now, Columbus is somewhere people get transferred to for work, not somewhere people really wanted to go. It’s not bad, but it’s not great. It’s just kind of there.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
You know what’s the worst part of the drive down 71 to Columbus?
When you’re done driving, you’re in Columbus.
Thank you ladies & germs, I’ll be here all week—and don’t forget to tip your waitress.
by PBH on Aug 2, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Every front office should sit every prospect down and show them the scene from Bull Durham where Crash Davis instructs Nuke Laloosh on what he should say to the media. And then show it to them again – as many times as it takes to set in.
@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff
He’s upset about being traded. When a girlfriend dumps you, you say silly petty things about her. And she deserves it, that cheating whore.
I mean, yeah, he’s upset, that’s cool.
by Chemo on Aug 2, 2011 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 12 recs
Not that I care (more than typing this comment and burning my Alex White fathead) but I would have respected him more if he took a small shot at the organization rather than the city.
by rog on Aug 2, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the “with the exception of a few people” line is the most curious part of the tweet. Does that mean that he likes Denver, except for a few people in Denver? Or that all but a few people would choose Denver over Cleveland? I’m assuming he meant the latter, but it reads like the former, which, uh, would be shot at some Denverites? (Denverians?)
I read it as he likes Denver better, except that he’ll be missing a few people that he liked in Cleveland.
Ah… That makes sense. But with O-Cab in SF now, who could he be missing?
by J83 on Aug 2, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Crowe! That Bullpen Catcher Guy who Danced with Choo! Brandon Caynkie!
"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady
Dave Wallace. More like he danced with the Wonder Girls so Choo wouldn’t embarrass himself. Apparently a dance named after Scott Barnes.
He was certainly not smart for saying that. That part is hard to argue. Whether he meant it as a joke or not, or whether or not any of us would agree with him, it’s still easy to see how it can be seen as a dig.
But no reason for people to get extra ugly to him. He’s a kid, he’s upset about the trade, and he’s immature. Not surprised.
He’ll be rehabbing for a while right? Shouldn’t he ask “Akron or Tulsa?” Never been to Tulsa, but that seems like a wash to me
On the contrary, good sir, Akron has much to recommend to it. For instance, Lebron James no longer lives there, though I suppose Tulsa has that too.
by gmfrodo on Aug 2, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
If I wasn’t from Cleveland I’d probably prefer Denver too. And all of would be dumb enough at age 23 to tweet it.
OCab is no longer my bête noire.
At least our pitchers aren’t dumb enough to tweet they got called to the majors before the team announced it or anything
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on Aug 2, 2011 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Maybe this belongs in the trade post, given all the TINSTAAPP discussion there, but every time I saw White throw, I just kept thinking about Daren Kirkreit.
(This is not to be read to imply that I wish that fate upon White, by the way. Let’s not get worked up over a tweet. Plus, hey, as much as I love Cleveland, Denver is a bit more of a — how shall I say it? — scenic city.)
I’ve only ever spent one day in Denver, but I hated it. You get this idea of Denver as a city in the mountains, but it’s really a city a few miles from the mountains. The city itself was out in the middle of a field, and terrifyingly flat. I’m sure it’s a fine city, but I didn’t get a great first impression.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
Well it’s pretty much impossible to build a big city in the mountains — Denver is about as close as you can get.
Have you seen the Lord of the Rings triology? … the stuff those Middle Earthers do with architecture is amazing.
Three trilobites in a row
Lou Marson fan.
by Gradyforpresident on Aug 2, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Denver is about as close as you can get.
This was not my impression. They didn’t even build into the foothills at all. Pittsburgh is more “in the mountains” than Denver. Heck, Cincinnati is hillier. and it’s nowhere close to mountains. I understand the mountains are close, but the entire city is a flat zone.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
Did you fly into the city – if you enter from the East I could maybe see how you’d think of it as flat, but driving in from Grand Junction (i.e. West), it’s a pretty majestic (and mountainous) entrance.
I did fly in, so maybe that’s it.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
I can see how driving in from the west would give that impression, but in the city itself I don’t recall a single hill.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
Yes, but at that point you’re in an airplane, not actually in Denver.
by Jay on Aug 2, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s breathtaking driving in from the West, but I also remember it being nice driving in from the East. Boulder, overall, is more scenic than Denver, though.
That said, Pittsburgh and lots of Southeast Ohio and West Virginia are more “hilly,” but it’s hard to compare that with the mountains in Colorado. Both are beautiful, but they’re very different — except that they’re both nicer than flat places, I think.
I just don’t see what any of this has to do with the enjoyment of actually living in or very near the city. That’s where Denver is, it’s not what Denver is.
Location, location, location. People like living in beautiful places. Denver is near beautiful places, but isn’t itself a beautiful place.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Aug 3, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Location and scenery are actually not the same thing.
by Jay on Aug 3, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Driving in was painful, for me, but everyone has different perceptions of breathtaking/pretty/whateveryouwanttocallit.
I guess I see a huge difference between hills and surrounding scenery. I can appreciate portions of shale an hills along 79/376/279 in Pittsburgh and the hill parts of were quite pretty to see post-Kansas/Illinois/Indiana in Ohio, but the scenery in Denver, especially when looking to the West, trumped all of that for me, having just left the San Bernardino mtn range out my kitchen windows.
Hills are different than mountains. Yes, Denver isn’t hilly, but it’s in the foothills of very large mountains. You can’t even compare that to anything in Pittsburgh or Cincinnati. Everywhere you go in Denver you can see the mountains — not sure why the actual city itself being relatively flat really matters.
Denver was settled by quitters who didn’t want to cross the Rockies.
by JulioBernazard on Aug 2, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Tony Lastoria defends White on twitter:
Damn, @Alex_White6 getting hammered on Twitter all b/c people misinterpreted his Den/Cle tweet. Guy was talking about the scenery folks!
I’m glad he’s in Alex’s head to know what he meant. Not to mention it’s hard to buy that with the “except for a few people” line. T may be a very nice/awesome guy offline but on he tends to tick me off from time to time with his air of superiority. That’s just me though.
With that being said, people don’t need to attack Alex and are wayyyy overreacting. He said it, maybe shouldn’t have, but he did, end of story.
Jimenez or White, Jimenez or White. Let’s be honest, I’ll take Jimenez.
by bupalos on Aug 2, 2011 6:27 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
I laughed.
"By being the manager and just playing whoever I want." - Acta on how he would choose to split playing time between Kearns and Buck.
I was a little fired up when I started reading this post, but by the end, I didn’t really care.
by DixonCayne on Aug 2, 2011 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
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