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Series Preview: August 22-24


So with last weekend's sweep at the hands the Tigers, the season's over with, right? Not by a long shot. There's still six head-to-head games left with Detroit, including the last three games of the season, and the schedule is going to get a lot easier on paper over the next two weeks. And 11 of those 14 games will be at home.

The first step towards getting back into the race is an unconventional four-game home series against the Mariners.

August 22-24: Seattle (4 Games)

Date Time CLE Starter SEA Starter Tickets
August 22 7:05 PM Fausto Carmona Jason Vargas Tickets
August 23 1:05 PM Justin Masterson Blake Beavan Tickets
August 23 7:05 PM TBD TBD Tickets
August 24 12:05 PM Josh Tomlin Felix Hernandez Tickets

 

So who will be that TBD on Tuesday? There's two possibilities: Jeanmar Gomez or Zach McAllister. Gomez last pitched on Wednesday, and McAllister pitched on Thursday, so either starter would be going on full rest. Gomez has been pitching better of late (3 earned runs or less in each of his last 10 starts), so I'd guess he'd get the call.

The Mariners come into Cleveland having lost five in a row. They played in Tampa over the weekend, and were swept by the Rays. They've really turned over their lineup since they last played the Indians, adding Casper Wells (Doug Fister) and Trayvon Robinson (Erik Bedard) via trades, and Dustin Ackley and Kyle Seager via the minors. Blake Beavan, who made his major-league debut in early July, will face the Indians for the first time on Tuesday.

Why all this turnover? For one, the Mariners have been the worst offensive club in the AL; they are last in the league in Runs, Hits, OPS, and Home Runs, 12th in walks, and have struck out the second-most times (the Indians, of course, are first). Ichiro is having his worst season (.267/.305/.317), and LGFT Franklin Gutierrez is hitting an incredible .212/.248/.261, testing the limits of how bad a great defender can hit while still holding down a starting job.

Felix Hernandez, Wednesday's starter, is having a down season, "only" posting 113 ERA+, though his strikeout and walk rates are in line with his career averages. Jason Vargas has struggled since the All-Star Break, allowing opposing hitters a .346/.409/.583 line.

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Gotta take three of four from the Wedgebots.

by JulioBernazard on Aug 22, 2011 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree, but it’s tough to sweep a doubleheader and it’s tough to beat Felix. I guess we’re going to have to do at least one of those.

I wonder if the players are thinking this way as well, or if they stick to the “one game at a time” mantra.

by TKilbane on Aug 22, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not that tough to beat Felix. You score two runs and sometimes that’s enough. That’s how bad the Seattle offense is.

by ameliorate on Aug 22, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tell that to the Indians’ pitchers.

by callmrplow on Aug 23, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Picture Wedge miming the act of choking.

by jhon on Aug 22, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

He owes us this one.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Aug 22, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s make or break time as we finish August. My gut tells me that we need to be within 3 games as we head into September.

And, we can’t count on those last three games in Detroit. Optimistically, we need to be tied (at least) heading in to that series, if we have a chance. The team is awful in Detroit, and when one of those games has Verlander, it will be nearly impossible to make up any ground.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Aug 22, 2011 10:48 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I was thinking we had to be one game up. We lose to Verlander on the final day of the season, but we split the other two and hope the coin flip has gone in our favor and the one game playoff is in Cleveland, where Fausto can pitch the game.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Aug 22, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Masterson @ Verlander for all the marbles would be fun, in a stressful kinda way.

by JulioBernazard on Aug 22, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

With our offense, it’d be way more stressful than fun.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Aug 22, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

fun is the last thing in my mind when i think of that.

Lou Marson fan. Jason Donald advocate.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 22, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I’m thinking at least 2 games, because the schedule is tougher in September. The Indians aboslutely have to make hay the rest of this month, especially with the Tigers on a semi-difficult 7-game road trip.

by Ryan on Aug 22, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

TBR needs to blast them.

by JulioBernazard on Aug 22, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we really can and should sweep this Mariners team. Our offense has been better of late, and theirs is awful, while their only really good pitcher is Felix.

by NewCavsfan on Aug 22, 2011 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought our offense was the one that just got shut down by Scherzer and Fister.

Formerly fwembt, now co-moderator of Banners on the Parkway

by Brad D on Aug 22, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really. We had plenty of hits, but just couldnt put them all together.

by NewCavsfan on Aug 22, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

We had 12 hits, combined, in those two games. That’s not “plenty” in any way, shape, or form. Our offense, as Peyton Manning would say, is offensive.

Formerly fwembt, now co-moderator of Banners on the Parkway

by Brad D on Aug 22, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Facing weak opposition, at home – at the least they have to win 7 of these 11 games. But in baseball, I think strength of schedule is not as significant. Some poor teams play excellent spoilers every year.

On the bright side, Ubaldo will start no more than two games on this homestand. OK, that was a cheap shot, but he’s been very disappointing thus far, especially considering his run support. If he just pitched average he’d have won at least 3 of his starts and the Tribe would be just 1.5 games back. He’s been with the team less than a month and he’s cost them 3 games in the standings.

by DanMac on Aug 22, 2011 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I disagree with thinking of run scoring as something totally independent of the pitching contributions—our massive deficit seemed to motivate the fundamental approaches of our hitters, and a huge lead can induce a lull in the opposing pitching and defense—but I share in the disappointment.

We need to treat the rest of the season like we treated that 7-0 deficit. It’s that dire.

by jhon on Aug 22, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is true, strength of schedule is not as significant. Otherwise, the best teams would be over .600 and the worst under .400.

by Jay on Aug 22, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

With Hafner possibly out for a while, I wonder what the odds are of Antonetti going after a hitter who’s cleared waivers?

by J83 on Aug 22, 2011 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Not likely. While they’re technically still in this race, I can’t imagine them paying the price for even a decent replacement, especially if that player is a) a rental or b) has an unfavorable contract.

by callmrplow on Aug 22, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the player isnt too expensive but is old or declining, but still an upgrade, we might go after them.

by NewCavsfan on Aug 22, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know. Clearly, the Ubaldo trade was an open declaration of “we’re going for it.” So Antonetti has to be looking at bat options now that several intriguing people have cleared waivers.

This is surely an obvious statement, but it has to come down to how much salary the potential trade partner is willing to pick up weighed against what level prospect they are looking for. Taking a quick look at some lists, most of the interesting people who’ve cleared waivers aren’t rentals, but they’ve got awful contracts. I could see the Indians biting on someone who they think will bounce back and who the other team will accept responsibility for a big chunk of the salary, even if it means giving up some notable prospects.

All I know is that it’s going to be rough seeing a lot more of LaPorta and Marson hitting in the next few weeks.

by J83 on Aug 22, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both Thome and Kubel are being put through waivers, per Rosenthal on twitter.

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Aug 22, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Taking for granted what it would do for ticket sales and fan interest, putting in a claim on Thome is a no-brainer. He has an OPS+ of 139 (OPS 868), which would immediately become the best on the team (Asdrubal is next at 131 OPS+).

by tflannery on Aug 22, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

from Rosenthal:

The Indians, another of Thome’s previous clubs, might want to reunite with him depending upon the condition of Travis Hafner, who on Monday underwent an MRI on his strained right foot.
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Other teams also are likely to claim Thome, if only to block him from going to a rival contender. Thome, who turns 41 on Aug. 27, has a full no-trade clause, and can reject any deal.

Thome could completely turn heel by vetoing a trade to the Indians.

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Aug 22, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only team that would block a Thome trade to the Indians would be the White Sox. Any other team would either have a better record or not be in contention.

by Ryan on Aug 22, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

With Dunn at DH, the White Sox may want to do more than block

by AllenSmith on Aug 22, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thome has a shot at Type B free agency.

I also read that Heath Bell and Carlos Pena have been put up on waivers also.

by Toxicadam on Aug 22, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d be in on Pena even if Hafner wasn’t hurt.

by Ryan on Aug 22, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s a tough call. Both Pena and Kubel could actually play the field even when (if?) Hafner returns to health. Pena is far more interesting in terms of his upside, but he’s got brutal L/R splits and — like the others — has a contract that’s up at the end of the year. Interestingly, Kubel actually has reverse splits this year, as does Thome, but SSS, of course.

It would be interesting to see what would happen if we got Thome and Travis recovered. One would have to think that Thome wins that battle and Travis sees a lot less playing time, which would be, uh, awkward.

by J83 on Aug 22, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want Thome back so bad right now. It’s really a perfect storm, with Hafner being hurt and all of the sudden Tribe fans love him again. Not to mention he’s heating up a bit and the Indians need offense.

We have to at least try for him.

READ THIS ANTONETTI

by tr1betime on Aug 22, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will Santana be the DH? With LaPorta at 1st and Marson at C?

I would personally like to see Zeke play a bit of DH when LaPorta sits, even though he is nothing like a classic DH batter.

by NewCavsfan on Aug 22, 2011 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Santana as DH is pretty limiting if Marson were to go down and need to be PH for in a game.

by palcal on Aug 22, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

In this case, Santana could come in to catch (i.e. go from DH to C) and the pitcher would have to hit in Marson’s spot (I think).

by tflannery on Aug 22, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Duncan will likely receive quite a bit of playing time the next couple of weeks.

by callmrplow on Aug 22, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hafner to DL, Judy recalled per Bastian and Hoynes tweets

http://twitter.com/#!/MLBastian

by IndyDave on Aug 22, 2011 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

so is Judy just here for tonight and tomorrow afternoon, to be replaced by tomorrow night’s starter

by palcal on Aug 22, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to Olney the Indians were awarded a claim on Harden, but couldn’t work out a deal.

by J83 on Aug 22, 2011 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

ooof.

Lou Marson fan. Jason Donald advocate.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 22, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

That Brad Pitt is no fun trying to cut a deal with.

by hans on Aug 22, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Can somebody explain this waiver deadline to me? What would have to happen in order for us to get Thome?

Someone mentioned that a team could block a potential deal. Why would they be able to block a deal?

by tr1betime on Aug 22, 2011 5:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Jayson Stark’s explanation of August waivers:

Virtually every player in the major leagues will be placed on waivers this month, whether a team intends to trade that player or not. If nothing else, the sheer volume of names can at least disguise players whom clubs do want to sneak through so they can be dealt.

If a player isn’t claimed by any team in either league, he can be traded until the end of the month to anyone.

If a player is claimed, but only by one team, the player can be traded only to the team that claims him.

If a player is claimed by more than one team, the club with the worst record in that player’s league gets priority — and the player can be traded only to that team.

If a player is claimed only by teams in the other league, the club with the worst record in the other league gets priority — and the player can be traded just to that team.

If a deal can’t be worked out or the team doesn’t want to trade that player, he can be pulled back off waivers once in August. If he is placed on waivers again before September, he can’t be recalled a second time.

Or, if a team is just hoping to dump a player’s salary, it can simply allow a team which claimed that player to have him for a small waiver fee. If that happens, the team that gets the player has to pay his entire salary. That’s how the Yankees were stuck with Jose Canseco and the Padres were stuck with Randy Myers in recent years: They claimed those players, thinking they were just blocking other teams from getting them. Instead, their old clubs said: “You claimed him. You got him.”

In the past, many teams claimed players just to keep them from being traded to contenders with a better record. This year, that isn’t expected to happen as often, because most teams can’t afford to get stuck with a big contract if they’re awarded a player they really didn’t want.

by YoDaddyWags on Aug 22, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was torn between posting that message or this link

by Harry Doyle on Aug 22, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Choo out today for birth of baby

by palcal on Aug 22, 2011 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully this lineup can beat Seattle:

Brantley LF, Donald 2B, Cabrera SS, Santana 1B, Fukudome RF, LaPorta DH, Hanrahan 3B, Marson C, Carrera CF

by palcal on Aug 22, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not certain that lineup can beat its way out of a paper bag.

I’m hoping we can get Fausto a run and he takes it from there.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 22, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

so do Indians have only 2 on bench tonight: Valbuena and Chiz?

by palcal on Aug 22, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Duncan is on family medical leave

by palcal on Aug 22, 2011 7:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I started laughing when I read this.

2 good hitters in Santana and Droobs
2 mediocre hitters in Fukudome and Brantley

The rest of them range from awful to bad, but I trust Zeke the most.

by NewCavsfan on Aug 22, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

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