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A partial list of notable Indians who have never played with Jim Thome

Not pictured: everybody listed below.

Don't ask me why, I just find this kind of thing fascinating. Jim Thome went nearly nine years without putting on an Indians uniform, and obviously many dozens of people played for the Indians while he was away. What's interesting to me is how many players never played with Thome as an Indian and still haven't — despite having had significant, multi-year careers with the Indians while Thome was away. Here's the fairly interesting and incomplete list, obviously subject to change:

POSITION PLAYERS, by games played as an Indian

1000 — Travis Hafner
923 — Jhonny Peralta
882 — Grady Sizemore
810 — Casey Blake
408 — Ryan Garko
390 — Ronnie Belliard
305 — Jody Gerut
301 — Kelly Shoppach
284 — Franklin Gutierrez
278 — Andy Marte
249 — Jason Michaels
247 — Aaron Boone
235 — Ben Francisco
214 — Michael Brantley
206 — Jamey Carroll
205 — Luis Valbuena
190 — Trevor Crowe
183 — David Dellucci
159 — Josh Barfield
141 — Austin Kearns
87 — Jose Hernandez
74 — Alex Escobar
73 — Ryan Ludwick
73 — Chris Gimenez
46 — Ramon Vazquez

It's a huge list, largely reflecting how complete the 2003 rebuild was. Still, a host of 2004-2008 stalwarts aren't on this list as they debuted in 2002: Bard, Crisp, Broussard, Phillips, Bradley and Victor Martinez. Dellucci debuted with the Phillies in 2006, just a few months after the Phillies had shipped Thome to the White Sox. Jose Hernandez and Thome both played briefly for the 1992 Indians, but they never appeared in the same game. Thome appeared as a pinch hitter in eight games with Blake, with the 2009 Dodgers.

STARTING PITCHERS, by games started as an Indian

84 — Paul Byrd
71 — Jeremy Sowers
52 — Scott Elarton
49 — Aaron Laffey (+30 in relief)
42 — David Huff
40 — Mitch Talbot
33 — Carlos Carrasco

Not much to see here, as the Indians rotation was impressively stable in Thome's absence. Sabathia and Westbrook debuted well before he left, and Thome was in the lineup for Cliff Lee's first two starts as a September callup. Carmona is still in the rotation, so that basically just leaves four guys filling in the gaps for eight years.  

RELIEF PITCHERS, by appearances as an Indian

371 — Rafael Betancourt
161 — Jensen Lewis
116 — Bob Howry
96 — Matt Miller
94 — Fernando Cabrera
87 — Joe Borowski
82 — Scott Sauerbeck
0 — Adam Miller

Have to feel bad for Jensen. The amazing thing about Betancourt is that he's already pitched in 163 games for the Rockies, too; over the past nine years, he's one of only five pitchers with more than 500 appearances and fewer than 25 saves.

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Betancourt’s appearances blows me away. That’s a ton of games. I usually make it to a few Rockies games per year (only two this year) and I feel like I see him every single time.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Aug 28, 2011 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

ADAM MILLER – 0

Don't be afraid to fight for your rights!

by IBHMC on Aug 28, 2011 11:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Way to pile on.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Aug 29, 2011 12:34 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

What was funny was that I read “Matt Miller” as Adam Miller, and I was confused as to how he had pitched 96 games. Then I re-read it, realized my mistake, and said to myself “It’s too bad Adam Miller isn’t on this list.”

Little did I know…

by barsham on Aug 29, 2011 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Loved seeing Grady and Thome conversing in the dugout today.

It sucks that The Lesser Extent played in 73 games for us.

ALEX ESCOBAR NEVER PLAYED WITH THOME!? OH THE TRAVESTY!

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Aug 29, 2011 12:50 AM EDT reply actions  

seeing that list of guys reminds me why we’ve been so horrible over the past 9 years.

by woof755 on Aug 29, 2011 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

810 — Casey Blake
408 — Ryan Garko
390 — Ronnie Belliard
305 — Jody Gerut
301 — Kelly Shoppach
284 — Franklin Gutierrez
278 — Andy Marte
249 — Jason Michaels
247 — Aaron Boone
235 — Ben Francisco
206 — Jamey Carroll
205 — Luis Valbuena
190 — Trevor Crowe
183 — David Dellucci
159 — Josh Barfield
141 — Austin Kearns
87 — Jose Hernandez

71 — Jeremy Sowers

Simply disgusting.

by JulioBernazard on Aug 29, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is the [small market] baseball. “Disgusting” is much too harsh.

by YoDaddyWags on Aug 29, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

96 — Matt Miller
94 — Fernando Cabrera
82 — Scott Sauerbeck

Can I at least go with “dismaying”?

by JulioBernazard on Aug 29, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really.

The Indians played about 1420 games while Thome was away. For that matter, the three names you pulled out were all rather effective at one time or another.

by Jay on Aug 29, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cabrera could have turned into the most devastating RH RP you’ve ever seen.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Aug 29, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I actually liked RonnieDawgg when he was here.

by JulioBernazard on Aug 29, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I won’t quibble with ‘dismaying,’ though my list would probably be limited to Michaels, Boone, Crowe, Dellucci and Kearns2, the only imports that dismayed me from the moment I read of them. I never quite understood Belliard for Luna. Was there a backstory I missed?

by YoDaddyWags on Aug 29, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was 2006, right? A painful season. Ronnie appeared not cut it on defense anymore, and Luna seemed to have some nice upside. I was intrigued at platooning him with Inglett. This was back in the day before platooning became associated with compounded sucking. IIRC Luna showed up the next spring incredibly out of shape, and that would be the end of that. Ronnie had several more stretches of adequacy in him.

by jhon on Aug 29, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Luna was a depth asset. It was the best offer out there, one assumes.

by Jay on Aug 29, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

He ended up being more of a girth asset.

by JulioBernazard on Aug 30, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

“Disgusting” is a weird overreaction. Lots of those players were pretty good, and besides, what do you think happens when you exclude the likes of Sabathia, Westbrook, Lee, Masterson, etc.? For any team?

Again, the numbers above are out of a possible 1420 Indians games. Only three guys on your list even played in 25% of those games.

by Jay on Aug 29, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s an overreaction to seeing names I never wanted to see again.

by JulioBernazard on Aug 29, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Niuman Romero with 10!!!

by johnf34 on Aug 29, 2011 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Jay – Peralta’s first year was 2003, not 2002.

by TribeJay on Aug 30, 2011 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Good catch! And I should have realized that.

Peralta vaults up to the top part of the leaderboard, and may well have the top spot by the end of the year.

by Jay on Aug 30, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

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