Game 112: Rangers 5, Indians 3
The Indians were six outs from an impressive 4-3 road trip. Up 3-0 going into the eighth inning, Josh Tomlin remained in the game with the Joe Smith warming behind him. Tomlin had gone through the Texas middle of the order in the seventh, and had come through unscathed, so Manny Acta tried to get another inning out of him. But the way Tomlin was pitching, it would have tough to pull him after the seventh. Before the eighth, Tomlin had given up three hits all night, and this was in Texas against one of the most productive lineups in the game.
After Tomlin allowed the first two runners to reach, Acta pulled him, bringing in Joe Smith to quell the rally. A Yorvit Torrealba swinging bunt loaded the bases, and Endy Chvez's single cut the lead to 3-2. But in my mind the key play of the game with the walk to Ian Kinsler, which re-loaded the bases, and set the stage for Texas to make an already big inning even bigger.
Michael Brantley was behind most of the Tribe offense. He tripled home the second run of the game in the fifth inning, and homered in the eighth to give the Indians a 3-0 lead.
It's tough to be positive after blowing two games in a series like this, but I'll try. The Indians went 3-4 in probably their toughest road trip of the season, though the played their best stretch of baseball since the All-Star Break. They come back to Cleveland four games out, and with 12 games left against Detroit. They're still in it, and have an opportunity make up ground quickly this week.

| Highest WPA | Lowest WPA | ||
| Tomlin | .322 | Smith | -.704 |
| Brantley | .160 | Fukudome | -.080 |
| Durbin | .016 | Kipnis | -.053 |
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I would like to have seen Tomlin pitch to at least one more batter. I know he gets more hittable as the game goes on, and he appeared not as sharp to the first two batters in the 8th, but he was getting DPs when he needed them up to that point. Not as confident in our bullpen as earlier in year.
This argument is based on nothing but results. If anything, there was an argument to get Tomlin after the first batter of the 8th inning. After all, it was his third walk and the second leadoff walk in the previous three innings. He was over 90 pitches. You can bemoan Joe Smith’s performance, but he got terribly unlucky on the first batter he faced, which was obviously key. Beyond that, he was terrible, but given recent performances and the options, Joe Smith is a no-brainer there. It’s simply too bad that he sucked at a bad time to do it.
I agree. Tomlin should have been pulled immediately after the walk. Especially for him, that’s a bad sign.
I wondered why we didn’t bring in Pestano in the 8th but I guess we were saving him for the 9th with Perez out.
That’s my guess, Pestano was being saved for the 9th. This could be a case where you should be using your better option in the higher leverage situation.
Right. You want your better reliever coming in with two on base and nobody out; that’s a much more difficult situation than starting an inning with a lead. I know this goes against baseball tradition, but I’d rather have seen Pestano in the 8th and Smith or Durbin or whoever in the 9th (hopefully with a 2 or 3 run lead).
I think at that point, the distinction is generally made based on matchups. Might be some consideration as to how many hits a reliever tends to give up to the first batter.
by Jay on Aug 8, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate to make this argument, but Pestano has much more closing experience than Sipp.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 9, 2011 6:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I got up this morning, after going to bed last night with the score 3-0, and checked the score—drove to work this morning asking over and over “How? How? How did we lose that one?”
Brutal. Guess its gunna come down to beating the Tigers. Damnit, this team has got to go on a winning streak here.
Fear the Fedora.
by MooneysRebellion on Aug 8, 2011 8:21 AM EDT reply actions
There’s no better time to start a winning streak. I’m glad they have the day off…
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin
by Spidey on Aug 8, 2011 9:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
jason kipnis is so cool
Lou Marson fan. Jason Donald advocate.
by Gradyforpresident on Aug 8, 2011 10:31 AM EDT reply actions
Fire Acta & spend some cash
■For a couple years I kinda boycotted the Indians because of the crappy players that they had and the bad manager Eric Wedge. He is in Seatlle now and besides the great mustache that he had for most the season, he is still losing.
■They moved many of those players out and went with a youth movement again!
■I told some of my buddies that I will be a good fan and watch and support the team now that many of those players are gone. I understand that we have had some injuries, but Grady Siezmore is not that good and would be hurting us more than helping us. He is a Strike out waiting to happen and if he has to make a play or slide he is out for a month. Choo is a decent player but replaceable. So these injuries are not a major problem and could have been addressed before the trade deadline.
■My thoughts of Acta have been this since they hired him. Why do hire someone that took the Washington Nationals to the worst record in baseball and was fired.. People say he is a players manager… WHO CARES all that spells is loses.. Example Romeo Crennel….
■This was the Indians ownership not wanting to spend money to get a guy who knows how to manage a Pro Team! Stop nickle and dime’n us pay someone to manage and get a couple free agent veterans next year. You have a team that is playing above their abilities give them someone that wins. We can contend in the central division help us contend. This teams needs a couple vets that have been there before and a manager that doesnt care about feelings and wants to win.
■This is 2 nights in a row Manny Acta should have pulled out the starter. (Not the 1st time this has happened this season or last season and wont be the last time)
■The starting pitchers went into the 6th & 7th inning with a shutout against a good Rangers team. Dont forget they lost in their last at bat twice to the 1st place Red Sox! Both 1st Place Playoff contenders. We are still playing good baseball.
■Carmona should have been pulled with the lead for a confindence booster, being that he has pitched horrible all season, who cares if he was at 85 pitches, not everyone can go over 100. especially when he is usually pulled before getting in the 70’s not used to going that deep into games..
■Tomlin hasn’t gone 100 pitches all season, Acta should have pulled him before the inning started to give our reliever a chance to start the inning with nobody on..
■I understand the bullpen worked alot in the last couple games, but that is their job come in for 15 pitches or 1 inning and move to the next guy an inning later. Mariano Rivera, Paplebon, Wilson & his Beard dont say shit if they have to pitch everyday in the playoffs. So run those guys out there and do what they are paid to do.
■Carlos Santana is a DH in waiting. Bad Bad Bad Catcher, and a problem at 1st base also. LOU MARSON should be your starting catcher.
■Another problem.. why is Carera in CF he is a pinch runner at best. Put BRANTLEY in CF. There have been more miss played balls in CF then i have seen since Alex Cole and his googles in the late 80’s early 90’s. He was fast but not a good hitter either.
■We cant come from behind every night, baseball doesn’t work that way. You need to manage smart and manage to win the game not to predict that your team will come back.. we dont have the hitters. Pitching needs to win the games for us. Which means pitching needs to be handled the right way.
■A winning manager would know what to do. All Acta knows is how to lose, he is not a winner.
■ Look at his career stats. 5 years as a manager his record is 283-400… Fire him if you want to make playoffs, hire Mike Hargrove back. He has coached winners and coached in a penannt race! His record is 1187-1173 that is what we like to call EXPERIENCE!
I’m done with my rant.. respond if you would like, but these are my opinions and they will not change
that was posted on my facebook by a guy who currently is an assistant hs baseball coach. figured id share this rare glimpse into the mind of the “avg” cleveland indians fan. you know, the type of people that threw fits after CC, cliff, and victor were traded without acknowledging the competitive position a small mrkt team faces, and also the kind of fan that does not realize many of the current crop of impact players on the 2011 team come from those deals.
That is scary. Heck, I’m just some girl who knows a little bit about baseball and even I can see all of the holes in the analysis (if you can call it that). I don’t see Santana being a DH ever, especially not now with Hafner. Moreover, regardless of whether we should keep Sizemore or not, I can’t imagine we wouldn’t be at least a little bit better this year with him playing. I am also unhappy about the Carerra is a “pinch runner at best” statement. But that could just be because I really like him.
by sandyalomarfan on Aug 8, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you should have put the part saying that it was someone else in the original post. Preferably at the top.
Agreed. I was ready to spit fire.
My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw
by Turkmenbashi on Aug 8, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Alex Cole was way ahead of his time. Googles!
by kedda13 on Aug 8, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Of the million places he could be picked apart, I thuoght I would pick out a few of my favorites that made me chuckle without making me want to burn things.
His example (Romeo Crennel) is a perfect counterpoint to what he was talking about. He stated him as a player’s coach, but forgot he was on a team that was a “winner” (w/ the Patriots) and couldn’t win in Cleveland. The cross-sport comparison doesn’t work either.
Spelling nickel “nickle”. I am usually not a spelling asshole but I am making an exception for him.
Same goes for “googles” which was already brought up.
Stating a manager’s career stats was golden.
Those were the only parts that made me laugh without scaring me too much. Yikes.
Choo is a decent player but replaceable.
I didn’t make it any further than that.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Aug 8, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Beat me to the punch. That statement is beyond laughable.
by thestreaksofbenfrancisco on Aug 8, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
“these are my opinions and they will not change”
This will be my last response to you or anyone who makes this statement. And I hope all other LGT posters follow suit by ignoring not only the embarrassingly awful analysis, but the frothing dogma that celebrates obstinate ignorance.
Did you read his self-reply? These aren’t obobcatu’s thoughts.
My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw
by Turkmenbashi on Aug 8, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely
My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw
by Turkmenbashi on Aug 8, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
A winning manager would know what to do. All Acta knows is how to lose, he is not a winner.
This is impeccable logic.
My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw
by Turkmenbashi on Aug 8, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
sorry if that mess drove up anyone’s blood pressure. I didnt mean for anyone to get upset haha. after I read that diatribe (no pun intended tabler) this morning I felt I just had to share it with someone. obv LGT was the first thing that popped into my mind, if for nothing else than so everyone could have a good laugh after an extremely bitter loss.
Onion links typically go to the fanshots section.
by Roger Dorn on Aug 8, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Evidently you missed the part where it’s revealed that it was written by a confirmed moron.
by Jay on Aug 8, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
This is our chance. We don’t win this series, it might be adios.
Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.
Well, it might, sure. But this is not a must-sweep or must-must-must win series. Having nine more games with Detroit after this series gives us a large opportunity. I’ll agree, though, that losing the series will be a kick in the nuts that could resonate.
well, it’s as close to a must-win series as a series can be with 40+ games left in the season. everybody is saying “don’t worry we have 12 games left with detroit,” and you just said we’ll still have nine left after this series. if we don’t win this series and gain at least some ground on the tigers, we will basically need to win the next 3 series vs DET in order to control our own destiny. otherwise, we are putting it into the hands of DET to collapse down the stretch. i look at each of the remaining 4 series against detroit as a 4 game series, and we need to win 3 of them. you’re right, this next series isn’t a “100% must win”, but then that just forces our backs further against the wall, meaning we basically have to win the last 3 series.
I agree fully. That would put us at 57-58 and 5 games back. Still a chance we could catch the Tigers, but now is the time to make up ground because every loss the chances get slimmer and slimmer.
my hope right now is that the Indians can stay about 4 games back until Choo is back
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
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Shin-Soo Choo officially begins a 20-day rehab assignment at Lake County tonight at 7 pm vs. Dayton.
auughh 20 days??
oh wait.
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@mikemackowski Rehab assignments for position players have max of 20 days. He’ll likely be activated sooner than that.
phew. that was close. oh well, carry on with your lives everyone. nothing to see here
Hammy said last night they hope to have him back within a week.
by Jay on Aug 8, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually – I take that back. He’s excellent in RF regardless of his batting. Of course, I want Choo from ‘10 back, but I’ll even take the defensive upgrade if that’s all that available.
I just want to believe.
Fukudome is a good defensive right fielder. Or are you assuming he moves to left?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
I was assuming Brantley LF, Fukudome CF, and Choo RF. I thought I read somewhere that Fukudome used to play center?
Il faut d'abord durer.
He mostly played center as recently as 2009 (113 games) but has played there just once since then.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
Then I’d probably put him in center; the outfield positions aren’t totally fungible; if we have Brantley with the ability to play left, let him play left.
Il faut d'abord durer.
But isn’t left easier than center? I know Fukodome has played center in the past but I thought that was mostly because the Cubs didn’t have any better options; I don’t think he’s meant to be a CF. In fact, I heard a former Cubs executive talking on the radio today (not sure who it was) about Fukodome and he said he was really more of an RF than CF and that was part of his problem in Chicago.
he played about 115 games there in 2009 and another dozen in 2008.
Honestly though looking at the #s, I feel more confident at playing him at LF that he hasn’t played before than at CF where 2 years ago (and he may have lost some athletic ability since) he played and his range wasn’t that great.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I’m not sure Fukudome isn’t the better CF option. I really just don’t know.
by Jay on Aug 8, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I will take Choo from the first month or so of 2011 at this point, before the DUI messed with his head.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I would take that in a heartbeat no question. I think the only person who wouldn’t is the fan who had that rant in another thread (the one where he said Choo was decent but replaceable).
The fact is, Zeke is not a very good offensive option and before the DUI, Choo wasn’t an awful hitter. .725 OPS, .150 ISO, sadly thats a middle of the order hitter on this team.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I was gonna say, .725 is an upgrade in many areas for this time.
And really, if the Choo we get back is the Choo he had when he left, that is dandy. In his last 12 games before the injury he looked like this: .316/.447/.421. The power wasn’t yet fully returned, but he clearly got back to working the count and drawing walks. I’ll take 1.5 months of that slash if I can.
Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.
its definitely a SSS, but I am optimistic. I noticed that he seemed to be back mentally at least, which I think was his problem before.
Even Choo during his worst month last year is an OPS upgrade over Zeke
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Plus he kicks Kearnsie or Carrera out of the lineup.
by JulioBernazard on Aug 8, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
During the All-Star Break, Choo told a friend that he’d be back by mid-August because he has a "Chinese body…very strong…heal fast."
I wish I was making that up…
by The DiaTriber on Aug 8, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Told a friend of his or a friend of yours?
by JulioBernazard on Aug 8, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I entered this season thinking that the team would get better and really start contending come 2012. The fact that we’re this close at this point is amazing.
I say that because I walked away from the game last night after we went down 5-3 in the 8th. I was so caught up that I couldn’t sleep for a few hours. I needed a reset on this team. They are still so young and on the upswing. But, simply put, they may not be ready yet. I want them to win the division. I think with our pitching, we could surprise a few people in the playoffs if we got there. But we’re very young and lately can’t seem to get that extra whatever to put us over in close games.
So I’m going into the rest of this year with lower expectations and enjoyment of the developments that the team is making. Giving anything more might drive me insane.
I just want to believe.
I had the unfortunate luck of turning on the TV with the Indians leading 3-0 and Joe Smith walking to the mound. What happened soon after left me disappointed and somewhat upset, however, I refuse to let one game here and there dampen my optimistic thoughts about this team. This team has faced adversity all year, and yet they are only 4 games out of first place. With all of the inter-division games remaining, I am excited to see how this all plays out. This is fun and something I am enjoying with my 10-year-old son for the first time. Every night before he goes to bed, he is checking his ipod for the latest score. Too fun! Go tribe whatever way this season turns out!
Let us not forget that Chicago is 1.5 games behind in the Indians and the White Sox will be playing the woeful Orioles while Detroit is in town. And then the Indians go to Chicago. 2 poor series will very likely mean 3rd place and 2 teams to pass with just over 30 games left.
Len Barker Perfect Game Attendee
Ya know who else could be in third two weeks from now?
Detroit, bitches.
"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady
by westbrook on Aug 8, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Your positivity is a beacon of light in dark times. I salute you, sir.
by rockemsockem on Aug 8, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Word.
LGT's resident moderate Yankee hating fan.
by Joe. on Aug 9, 2011 1:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Carraso to the DL. blessing in disguise? possibly.
but really, headed down to the Jake tomorrow night and wednesday. pumped. Tribe fans need to represent and try to make it down for one of these games (if possible) to support a team that needs a little bit of it after a tough road trip.
IMO, this is the most important series the indians have played in since the ’07 ALCS.
Anyone have one of those “Beat Detroit” shirts from the Cavs Finals run in ’07? I could use one of those bad boys tomorrow

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