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via Craig at NBC's Hardball Talk.

if true, this would suck.

UPDATE: confirmed today.

9 months ago Dortmunder_l_tiny rolub 49 comments 0 recs  | 

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Shit. But not totally unexpected.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Sep 2, 2011 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

per Diatribe:

The source of the news in the report from @craigcalcaterra on Carrasco’s upcoming TJ surgery is none other than Hector Rondon #indians

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Sep 2, 2011 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Here’s the original story and a poor translation of said story:

Carlos Carrasco would need to undergo Tommy John operation, according to said his friend and fellow pitcher, Héctor Rondón.
Last year went through this same process of tendon transplant, Rondon, said he talked with the grandeliga of the Cleveland Indians.
“Carlos called me yesterday and told me that they were reportedly going to Tommy John,” he said Rondon.
Carrasco is on list of disabled by problems in the right elbow. He ascended to the mound for the last time on August 3, against the Boston Red Sox.
Rondón is in the last phase of his rehabilitation, and on Wednesday made their first gig after passing through the operating room.

by The DiaTriber on Sep 2, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please ascend to the mound again soon, Carlos!

by cleveland teamer on Sep 2, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Speaking of Rondon…he made his first official rehab appearance this week. One inning for Mahoning Valley.

by APV on Sep 2, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, here’s to continued success for Mr. Huff. We’re gunna need ya this year and next.

Fear the Fedora.

by MooneysRebellion on Sep 2, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Wrong. I think we have a good shot at the stupid award that Will Carroll will start to hand out this year

by stuart dean on Sep 6, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course it’s true. It’s 2011.

I like ex-Phillies prospects.

by Gradyforpresident on Sep 2, 2011 5:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I assume you saw the awesome Choo quote?

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Sep 2, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

MLBastian Jordan Bastian
Acta: Indians still exploring options for Carrasco (right elbow). Tommy John surgery is a possibility, but is not a certainty at this point

by barsham on Sep 2, 2011 6:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Sucks, but not unexpected. I assume we’ll be reading this about White or Pomeranz sometime as well.

by Cols714 on Sep 3, 2011 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Sure, keep telling yourself that.

I just want to believe.

by mjmarble on Sep 3, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Won’t be reading anything about Pomz until he recovers from his appendectomy

by APV on Sep 3, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is funny — having traded him away, our reaction to this is, “Oh, well, it’s only an appendectomy, that’s nothing.” Had he been our pitcher, it would have been more like, “An appendectomy, ARE YOU F’ING KIDDING ME? Why does this crap only ever happen to our pitchers?” Followed by snide remark about Soloff/Carroll.

by Jay on Sep 3, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

FIRE CARROLL.

Wait, can we?

by emd2k3 on Sep 6, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

no longer a rumor.
“RHP Carlos Carrasco will have right elbow reconstructive surgery next Wednesday in NY City. Hopeful of game activity in 12 months.” via Indians twitter feed.

by tribefan62812 on Sep 6, 2011 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Carrasco already wasn’t a prospect.

by Jay on Sep 6, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PITCHER.

by emd2k3 on Sep 6, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Hopefully Tomlin is not next.

by piersall on Sep 6, 2011 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Someone (Tony?) wrote somewhere that our depth is compromised by two bodies in trading both White and Pomeranz. This omits the fact that the net loss in depth is + Ourbaldo – White – Pomeranz = -1.

by stuart dean on Sep 6, 2011 6:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Did he mean our 2011 depth? Because Ubaldo has made twice as many starts as W+P combined.

by Jay on Sep 6, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he were still in our organization, we could have put aside our worries about Pomeranz. It looks like he will appear in the majors this week.

by jhon on Sep 6, 2011 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

ok so the Phillies (knowingly?) traded us two injured pitchers… I don’t think we’ll be dealing with them again.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Sep 6, 2011 6:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Dude, the trade was two years ago. How’s a team supposed to know a guy is going to need Tommy John two years later?

by Jay on Sep 6, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to Bastian, he’s had this injury since he was a teen.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Sep 6, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Soloff: Carrasco likely suffered “traumatic” elbow injury as a teenager. MRI now revealed damage consistent with old injury. Surgery needed.

"I want to be playing at the end of October or the end of September -- not just at the beginning of April." —Grady

by westbrook on Sep 6, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

has his first MRI this April

by palcal on Sep 6, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is messed up. So here’s my issue with training staffs in major league baseball. Anyone with elbow pain gets an MRI, then the imaging alone is what guides the decision to go to Tommy John. Doesn’t seem like rehab is even considered.

So since the chances of any given pitcher having some degree of elbow discomfort over a 5-year period, why do we not MRI every pitcher? As a clinician, I never advocate for imaging asymptomatic patients since we often find things that may have been insignificant all along, I think elbow MRIs in baseball may be the exception to that rule.

by supermarioelia on Sep 6, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better question, why not just give every pitcher the surgery when he’s 21?

by Jay on Sep 6, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best question, when will major league caliber humans evolve to be born with a forearm ligament already in their elbow.

Matt LaPorta is the bane of my existence.

by USSChoo on Sep 6, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Next market efficiency. Make it happen.

by emd2k3 on Sep 6, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, so has every other pitcher who has ever pitched high school baseball.

Fear the Fedora.

by MooneysRebellion on Sep 7, 2011 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Uuuuuuggggghhhhhhh

My watch is broken... it's stuck on Tribe Time
#suckitLaw

by Turkmenbashi on Sep 6, 2011 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Look at the bright side, at least we have a reason for him sucking towards the end.

::runs away::

by Toxicadam on Sep 7, 2011 12:46 AM EDT reply actions  

So does Gomez get a spot in the rotation next year or do we go after a free agent starter?

This is assuming the rest of the rotation is healthy of course

by AllenSmith on Sep 7, 2011 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

i’m hoping the whistleblower in this saga is ready to step in, but that could be wishful thinking.

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Sep 7, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

For the start of the season that seems doubtful. I would guess the organization tries to limit his innings next year by starting Rondon in Arizona and gradually building him back by late May or June.

by APV on Sep 7, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m hoping all the free agent money goes into the offense, specifically 1B or LF.

by hans on Sep 7, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

What about the Carmona money?

by palcal on Sep 7, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Carmona money will be going to Carmona.

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on Sep 7, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Especially with Carrasco out for the year. Carmona option becomes a no-brainer, unfortunately.

by Jay on Sep 7, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah what are you thinking palcal?

by hans on Sep 8, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Personally I think we should sign Buehrle simply so we don’t have to face him 4 or 5 times next year

by AllenSmith on Sep 7, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

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