Tribe Near Deal with Kobayashi
I've never heard of the guy, but apparently we're making a big play for him. I guess Shapiro is serious when he says you can never have too many bullpen arms. Has anyone taken a look at this guy? He's apparently 33 years old and averaged 31 saves over the last few years. Take a look at his stats. Nothing too terribly impressive by way for K/9 or ERA. It'll be interesting to see what kind of money he gets. - -
Kobayashi from 2 years ago and not at his best.
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News of this deal comes completely out of left field. I wouldn't have even guessed that we were serious players for any of the imports, but it looks like he'll be signing soon. I don't know much about him other than what MLBTradeRumors said: "Kobayashi's deceptive delivery could result in a year or two of MLB success." His peripherals seem decent, though they obviously don't blow me away.
I tend to just trust the front office and the scouting department on this type of move, so...cool.
by Kos @ Let's Go Tribe! on Nov 20, 2007 1:15 PM EST reply actions
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by smtp on Nov 20, 2007 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
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(It had to be done.)
by Kos @ Let's Go Tribe! on Nov 20, 2007 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
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by JulioBernazard on Nov 20, 2007 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
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by JulioBernazard on Nov 20, 2007 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
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This is good news. I'd guess we'd give him a 2 year deal with a 1 year team option at around 3.5M per year.
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Not that its an amazing call, just fun to be right.
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With Hitoki Iwase off the board, Kobayashi was the best Japanese reliever available in free agency.
Well OK then. And according to the YouTube video, he at least throws hard.
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Meet your new closer? It's a possibility.
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It's been said that Kobayashi would prefer to close but it's not a dealbreaker.
Here's what Bob Bavasi of JapanBall told me about Kobayashi:
This closer was the number one draft pick by the Chiba Lotte Marines in 1999. He may be the best available reliever on the free agent market, though he has not made the sort of overtures about wanting to leave Japan as the other two. During the recent playoffs in Japan, his manager, Bobby Valentine, noted that Kobayashi keeps "looking better every time out." True enough, and a reason I like him.
And here's what Aaron Shinsano and Jackson Broder of East Windup Chronicle said about him:
Lost seven games and ERA rose nearly a point in 2007, but that shouldn't deter teams from pursuing this 200+ save closer for Chiba Lotte. Throws from the stretch, and has that deceptive delivery that scouts seem to like these days. Has a great forkball that often tails in toward the batter. Not as good as Iwase or Koji Uehara, but might just be an upgrade over, say, The Farns. Tak adds that he was dropped to the "minors" at the end of the season and many feel his velocity and control are slipping.
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So, I guess I'd take him any day over a Roberto Hernandez if we're talking veterans with closing experience.
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I think we will see a similar career path from Hideki Okajima, so if we can get 1 year out of Koybashi, it is well worth it.
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Two years with an option for 2010.
Interesting note in the article: Shapiro refers to him as "Masa." Cool.
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by Turkmenbashi on Nov 20, 2007 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
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Cool +1.
by ManchildinBeantown on Nov 20, 2007 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
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by ManchildinBeantown on Nov 20, 2007 2:26 PM EST reply actions
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If not, consider it made.
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This, of course, will never happen.
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by smtp on Nov 20, 2007 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
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If you look at the stats he put up in Japan, he has been better than Saito's and comparable to Okajima's. Out Kobayashi and Yabuta (another Japanese reliever we've been linked with), Kobayashi seems like the better pitcher.
Exciting stuff, now let's bring in our stud left fielder, extend CC's contract and we're done!
by JPFrost on Nov 20, 2007 3:03 PM EST reply actions
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The Indians may also want to use a multi-year deal with Betancourt to curb his first significant arbitration payday. So we may see a two-year deal with a fairly generous option for 2010 just for that reason.
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I agree that Shapiro will try to buy out his arbitration years and try to get an option. The Indians love cost certainty. They might even wind up spending a little more to sign him like that, but I think its worth mitigating the risk. What if Jobo blows out his elbow in April and Betancourt winds up saving 40 games? That might lead to a huge pay bump for 2009. On the flip side a 2 year garunteed contract for Betancourt is not a huge risk to us.
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by JPFrost on Nov 20, 2007 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
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Btw, what should Kobayashi's nickname be?
by JPFrost on Nov 20, 2007 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
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by Gradyforpresident on Nov 20, 2007 4:55 PM EST reply actions

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