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Game Thread: June 9, 2007

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Cleveland at Cincinnati, 7:10 p.m. (STO)

Cincinnati: Matt Belisle (4.48 ERA, 25 PRC)
Cleveland: "Lucky" Sowers (6.63 ERA, 12 PRC)

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In the long run, what does "depth" really get you?  We start the season with eight reasonable options for five rotation spots:  Sabathia, Westbrook, Lee, Sowers, Byrd, Carmona, Slocum and Miller.  Our #3 man got injured, and when he came back our #2 got injured.  Our #7 and #8 options have both been on the minor-league DL for a month.  And other than our #1, everyone else has swapped roles, as #5 and #6 have each looked like a #2, while #3 and #4 have been pitching ... well, like the other kind of #2.

All of which leaves us, of course, in first place.  And that's what depth gets you.  It always seems worthless right up to the moment it saves your season.

Still, it can't be denied that Lee and Sowers' six-week bed-crapping duel has become a problem not only in the pure run-prevention sense, but also in straining a bullpen that remains a little shy of anyone's definition of solid.  In their 19 starts, the Indians are a stunning 6-13.  In all other starts, the Indians are an equally stunning 30-10.

Here's the #41 through #66 AL pitchers with 40+ IP, as ranked by ERA.  Out of the 66, Lee and Sowers come in #56 and #61.  Sadly, the reality is actually worse than those rankings indicate.  The entire Texas rotation (including Millwood) and most of Tampa's have taken up residence at the bottom of those rankings.  So if we look at only teams that aren't in last place -- Texas, Tampa and KC -- then we find that Lee and Sowers are ranked #49 and #51 out of a total of 51 pitchers.

So yeah ... they've sucked.  But I would submit that it's still not time to panic.  None of our three felled starters are out with anything serious, or for very long.  And the fact is, we don't need for all these guys to have a solid second half.  Fact is, if any one of them can have a strong second half -- Lee, Sowers, Westbrook, even Miller or Slocum -- then it's going to be tough to keep this team out of the postseason.  And the odds that at least one of them can put it back together are pretty damned good.

UPDATE:  Strictly as a point of retaliation, I'd rather live in a city that manages not to have race riots in the 21st century.  The fire on the lake was almost 40 years ago -- and nobody died.

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Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
So is our "blog war" extending into the game threads tonight?

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
White Sox lost, Tigers trying to give away big leads all day. Currently 8-7, Detroit.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Let's make this one easy for Jeremy, offense.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Homer Bailey is 200% less sweaty when not pitching.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I missed non-sweaty Homer? Booers.
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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Great that it's on the 8th pitch.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Asterisk on Homer Bailey's career my ass...

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 7:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
So who's talking about the asterisk? I don't think the Reds guys were.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
My mistake...the quote was "footnote on Homer's career", not asterisk

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
You know, I really was going to pick Grady as my PP

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 9, 2007 7:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Hafner took Belisle deep last time he pitched against us, apparently.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I know I'm inclined to hate everything about Phillips but that bat waggle is truly ridiculous.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
STOP THE PRESSES, BRANDON PHILLIPS HAS MADE AN OUT AGAINST THE INDIANS.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Don't you wish we'd put him on base instead?  Geez, our manager is such a pussy.

by Jay on Jun 9, 2007 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I just want to say, unequivocally, I love our platoons, and I love our whole position player situation, period.  There's always somebody better at some position or another, but I really have no complaints at all.

by Jay on Jun 9, 2007 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Not enough pie.
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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Yes, after torching a village of International League Pitching.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Even when not getting an out, Victor's throwing is incredibly improved. I really think he's a little bit better than average now.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Interesting note from the Reds crew ... opposing runners are 10-for-10 with Sowers on the mound.  Think how good that makes Victor's numbers with the other guys.

by Jay on Jun 9, 2007 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I dislike you, Jeff Conine.
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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Jesus Christ, Conine, why won't you just die?
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I was 2 seconds away from saying Sowers looked good tonight so far.

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Does anyone have any clue what's going on with Adam Miller?

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
He's got a strained ligament in the last digit of his middle finger.  He's out for about 4 weeks, I believe.

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Yeah I knew it was his middle finger. Is he on a 30 day DL or whatever?

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I believe he's technically on the 15-day DL, but is expected to miss 4-6 starts.

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Call me unknowledgeable, but who the hell is Matt Belisle?

by fleerdon on Jun 9, 2007 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
My friend who worked for the Baltimore Sun covering the O's swears Conine is on the juice.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I don't like Jeremy Sowers anymore.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Hypothetically...If Sowers didn't make his next start, who would? Stanford?

by fleerdon on Jun 9, 2007 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Stanford is not pitching well in Buffalo tonight. 2 earned, 3 walks, through 4 so far.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I would've taken that from Jeremy tonight. Not the same thing, I recognize, but still.

by fleerdon on Jun 9, 2007 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
A ham sandwich could spot its pitches better than Sowers.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I guess Sowers isn't "figuring it out" tonight, huh?

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Alright, the offense needs to realize they can win regardless of what Sowers does. Just hang 15 runs up there.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I'd think Stanford, but what about Buzachero?

by madherb on Jun 9, 2007 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Buzachero's not very good and has been used primarily in relief.  They could give Perez a start (he was starting in Buffalo) and replace him in the bullpen with Matt Miller.

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Maybe he'll only give up 3 runs through 5! Oh please Santa, please! What a wonderful present that would be!

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Maybe if he were facing the Reds 7-8-9 hitters every inning.

by madherb on Jun 9, 2007 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
What's Sowers season high for K's? He might get a new one tonight, with 3 already.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
My two thoughts so far this game:

  1. Josh Hamilton hits another home run? This is my complete lack of surprise.

  2. Sowers appears to be striking more people o-- oh. Right. NL hitting.
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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Hahahaha. Matt Belisle is an idiot.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Beeheehee. I am so full of terrible, terrible glee.
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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
He's gushing about Belisle's stuff ... when he gave up a leadoff walk to the AL pitcher?

by Jay on Jun 9, 2007 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
And then Grady makes him look like a further jackass.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I can't give Sowers any credit. He didn't take the bat off his shoulder did he?

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Ever see Pedro hit? It's my favorite thing ever. He just stands there and slouches.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
He just looks very uncomfortable up there whenever putting the ball in play is likely to result in scoring a "free" run.

by mplswahoo on Jun 9, 2007 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Belisle just hit 50 pitches. Geez this lineup works guys. I don't even notice anymore.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
It's really nice watching other team's pitchers not be able to find the strike zone.
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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I'll take it Casey.

Get your GS mojo back, Travis.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
WTF, Pronk? Patience.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Reds announcer now backing off of comment regarding Belisle's stuff (rough paraphrase):  "Quality stuff doesn't necessarily mean you'll know what to do with it or that you'll be able to use it to get somebody out."

by mplswahoo on Jun 9, 2007 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Damn. Hafner hit that well.

Sowers looks absurd on the basepaths.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
COME ON VICTOR!!!
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
?

You already changed your signature?

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
wow. i do not like seeing plays at the plate with the pitcher. :\
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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
lol, Sowers more useful on the basepaths than the mound
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Ooof. Sowers made that interesting.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Shouldn't we have already hit like 10 HRs in this park?

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Sowers is slower than the Browns' offensive linemen

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Jun 9, 2007 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Probably true... those guys are faster than one might think.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
You're right...let me rephrase...."Sowers is slower than a Peewee football lineman."

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Jun 9, 2007 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
That's more like it.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
um... go away
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
AWESOME!!

We lead the league in sac flies according to Manning.

Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Do little things done many times equal big things?
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Can we ban this guy?
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I'm still having fun with his sig.

by Jay on Jun 9, 2007 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
lol, nice
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I'm not sure he even understands what's happening. Have any of his posts made any sense.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I think he's a few hours late on his lithium

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
He's at 61 pitches.

That inning sort of sucked but I feel alright about this. Hopefully our offense won't screw up two games in a row with that bullpen.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Wow, would love to see more than one run out of a 3-4-5 with the bases loaded, no out situation

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 9, 2007 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
What the hell is happening here? Between Brandon Phillips creating outs and Slyde I feel like the world is ending.  

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Dear David Dellucci,

I continue to be unimpressed by you.

Sincerely,
Me.

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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Hiiters feel the same way about his pitches.

by gte619n on Jun 9, 2007 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Is this Tribeinne or whoever? Or Jay?

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Slyde, please enjoy the Adam Dunn trade rumors for the remainder of the 2007 season.

by gte619n on Jun 9, 2007 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Even the guys at RedReporter are ripping on this guy. Apparently he's been kicked out of there, and isn't even the real Slyde.

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Someday, I want to have to hunt down a rip-off fleerdon.

by fleerdon on Jun 9, 2007 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I just wanted to thank you for sending Jeff Stevens to Cleveland for little more than a hot-dogging, over-swinging, whiny flameout second baseman. I know your entire major league bulpen (sic) has a sterling ERA of like infinity, but I think Jeff Stevens might be doing a little bit better than that.

Please don't get too arrogant. I know the Reds had a better run than the Indians in the late '70s, but until the Reds start beating the inferior competitors they play for more than half of the season, please BLOWITOUTYOURASS.

Just a friendly reminder from somebody who thinks you suck at life.

by fleerdon on Jun 9, 2007 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
So, what exactly do we do about Young Jeremy? He's got options, I suggest we burn one.

by gte619n on Jun 9, 2007 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I know they're in last and all, but these Covington (Ky.) Commies have impressed. Too bad it's "Win A Major League Start" night and the lucky Tribe fan is a seventh-grader.

by JAKorleone on Jun 9, 2007 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
dammit sowers you are making my writing block worse

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 9, 2007 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
He's gone.  Certain kinds of remarks I'm just not even going to tolerate.  Apparently he has an equal axe to grind with our friends over at the RR.

by Jay on Jun 9, 2007 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Well, he's gone, Jay, but now I look like I'm having an argument with my Cincy-based MPD alter-ego.

by fleerdon on Jun 9, 2007 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Jhonny Jhonny Jhonny!
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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
"Johnny Johnny Johnny!" obviously.
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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Looks like we've got a pitcher's duel on our hands.

by gte619n on Jun 9, 2007 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Pitcher's duel with grenades in the Great American Ballpark

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
alwys a fun thing to do for at game at the GABP is set an over/under for homeruns. And with your guys line up I'd go high.

by Caleb on Jun 9, 2007 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Where was that speed on the tagup Jeremy? Nice effort!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Jun 9, 2007 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Sowers to the NL? Hmm... interesting, the Braves do need a pitcher. More Indians -> Braves trade action?

by gte619n on Jun 9, 2007 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Sigh. The Braves need a pitcher, not a belly-itcher.

by fleerdon on Jun 9, 2007 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
If that happens, go ahead and tell the engravers to his name on a Cy Young.

by JAKorleone on Jun 9, 2007 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Why do you think Maddux won't even consider leaving? Sure he loves to hit.

by JAKorleone on Jun 9, 2007 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Sowers is Barry Zito, without the staggering past success.

by gte619n on Jun 9, 2007 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
And the "guy who always hangs at open-mic night" mystique.

by fleerdon on Jun 9, 2007 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Actually, I think Sowers plays a mean recorder.

by JAKorleone on Jun 9, 2007 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Please. Sowers could never pen something as straight up unintentionally hilarious as the Barry Zito song (which has a real name that currently escapes me.)
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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Whatever. I heard their new band, NL Lefty, is already booked to play Sowers' junior high prom.

by JAKorleone on Jun 9, 2007 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
More Clemens Coverage! I NEED TO KNOW! Why are we even broadcasting this game when we could have more Clemens Coverage!

by gte619n on Jun 9, 2007 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Clemens coverage
seems like that is one thing all of Ohio can agree on.

by Caleb on Jun 9, 2007 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
At which Taste the 'Nati hotspot did Sheldon Ocker eat his pregame meal today?

Bob Evans
Denny's
IHOP

I'm betting on the first. He loves the nightlife; he loves to boogie.

by JAKorleone on Jun 9, 2007 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Speaking of Clemens: Do you think they'd throw him in one of those sensible ARod deals Ocker proposed?

by JAKorleone on Jun 9, 2007 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Congratulations to all the Reds Clubhouse Attendants  who cleaned up after the flood, indeed.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Hafner is right on this guy. Bad luck.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Good call. Anybody who doesn't belive in BABIP needs to watch Pronk's last two at-bats against this Quadruple A arm.

by JAKorleone on Jun 9, 2007 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
So this Belsie guy is a bum, right?

by gte619n on Jun 9, 2007 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Trot is becoming predactible.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Well, he certainly doesn't drive the ball consistently enough, or well enough, in my estimation to justify batting in that #5 hole.

by mplswahoo on Jun 9, 2007 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Reds announcer on Trot: "He's a grinder, the way he carries himself, sort of like Paul O'Neill."

Grinder.

You never call a great player a grinder.  Oh, Willie Mays, he sure was a grinder.  Pujols?  What a grinder.

by SuddenSam on Jun 9, 2007 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
If Trot Nixon's level of success if described by: Grinder. What does that make Sowers?

by gte619n on Jun 9, 2007 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Fuck. Fuck on many levels.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
LOL Hamilton calls Sowers "Cliff Lee" on air

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 9, 2007 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Though, now that I think about it, it's more upsetting than amusing

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 9, 2007 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Well, Jeremy, at least you're young with a certain amount of potential. Enjoy your Summer in Buffalo, I hear the weather is very nice.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
You can get a nice hamburger in the restaurant at Dunn Tire park with a good view of the field

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Even though the line on Sowers does suck, it felt like he did pitch somewhat better tonight. Am I crazy?

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Wedge's move to have Sowers hit the showers without getting out of the fifth suggests that he might be putting a concerted effort towards winning this game.

I wonder if that might also portend a spot start prior to Westbrook's return . . . . ?

by mplswahoo on Jun 9, 2007 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I don't think that was a "quality start." I just think he needs to go back down and get his act together.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
5 ER in 4IP.  I know that was not a "quality start."

by mplswahoo on Jun 9, 2007 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Note on the #5 spot ... #5 in the NL is not the same as #5 in the AL.  It's amazing how short the lineup gets in an NL park.

by Jay on Jun 9, 2007 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Perez getting an extended outing tonight sets him up to potentially fill Sowers spot...

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I've gotta imagine the odds are pretty decent on that at this point . . . .

by mplswahoo on Jun 9, 2007 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
As I noted earlier, Matt Miller is an obvious choice to fill Perez's lefty role in the pen.  He wouldn't be a long man exactly, but...

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Actually, based on the .350/.160 split, I'm thinking maybe Jeremy is a LOOGY.

by SuddenSam on Jun 9, 2007 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Was thinking the same thing.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Let this Perez outing be similar to Westbrook's breakout relief outing against Detroit two years ago.

by madherb on Jun 9, 2007 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
How many days before Sowers goes down to AAA?

1-5
5-10?

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Sooner rather than later, I imagine, to get another arm in the pen

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 9, 2007 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
1...that way we can bring up Miller right away.  If they're going to make that decision, there's no point in waiting.

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Considering this spot in the rotation will be going up against a Florida team that hits lefties better than righties, how many options does Stanford have if we bring him up?

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
What do people think about moving Hafner down in the lineup, with a possible Peralta-Martinez-Hafner 3-4-5 to try to take some pressure off of Pronk and capitalize on Jhonny and Vic's play so far?
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Why not? In fact I was thinking this was a perfect time to give him a day off. Garko seemed locked in and he's been sitting too long.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
OK, seriously, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS OFFENSE

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 9, 2007 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Over his last 10 appearances in Buffalo, Matt Miller has gone 9 innings, given up no earned runs, five hits, four walks, and sixteen strikeouts

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Fultz, Cabrera, and Hernandez all have higher BB/9 rates

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Arrrrrrrrrrgh.

What is wrong with our boys?

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Too bad he throws like a girl
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I'm really hoping that Perez isn't the odd man out when Miller comes up....a trip down to Buffalo might depress the hell out of the kid.

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I can't believe Perez is going anywhere.

by madherb on Jun 9, 2007 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Chad Moeller, First Base. First Base, Chad Moeller.

by madherb on Jun 9, 2007 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
GET OUT OF THIS INNING. I AM LOSING MY MIND.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
cause the call was right...

by Mark @ Let's Go Tribe! on Jun 9, 2007 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Looked to me like he caught the bag with his heel upon his landing....non-issue, we're out of the inning.

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Man I hate the Battle of Ohio....too many fucking Reds fans lingering around. I can smell the stench all the way up here in Ontario.

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I am not a Reds fan!  Them's fightin' words!

by Mark @ Let's Go Tribe! on Jun 9, 2007 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
So that's what that was. I'm in Arizona and I can smell it too.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Count me in on any bandwagon to have Perez get Sowers' spot inthe rotation until Westy gets back. Sowers down, M. Miller up. Jeremy needs AAA time to get his sh*t together.

by mcrose on Jun 9, 2007 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
On a positive note, Chinese food is delicious
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Ooh, what kind?
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Naote familiar with those
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I'm not a big cigar afficianado, but I had one left over from a recent backpacking trip.  I'd highly recommend Ashton's though...real good.

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Cool, I'm not much of an afficiando either, but I enjoy a decent cigar once in a while. usually don't spend more than $5-7 on one. I'll have to check those out.
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Casey hits in 18 straight. Can you feel the heat, DiMaggio?
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
If Pronk is ever due...let it be now...

by Mark @ Let's Go Tribe! on Jun 9, 2007 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
COME ON PRONK
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Any idea why Michaels took over for Nixon in the field?

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
just to try and keep the pitcher from batting and try to extend Perez perfomance..

by luifer5 on Jun 9, 2007 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
come on pronk is time to turn things around

by luifer5 on Jun 9, 2007 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I'm surprised it took 5 games for someone to finally mention this.

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
To combat this, we need to send Shapiro down to the DR to find a Fallatio Hernandez.

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Ugh. At least that scores a run.
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
i wanna see Pronk homers, i guess is just not happening this season

by luifer5 on Jun 9, 2007 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Better than looking at strike 3

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
A lot of Hafner's value is in his baserunning.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Have you been saving that one up?

And I had forgotten that Christopher Walken was in that sketch...

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
We've been making Coutlangus jokes since spring training over at RR, and I'd never seen that.  Well done.

by BK on Jun 9, 2007 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Gonzalez stuck his tongue out at Vic. Is this team for real?

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
thats because they are both Venezuelans and have play in teams together in the past in caribbean series and with the Venezuelan National team

by luifer5 on Jun 9, 2007 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Sit down BP.

At first I thought it was only BP, now I realize they're a team of punk bitches. Unfortunately, they are winning.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I hate baseball
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
i kind of knew once griffey didnt follow that slider that he was gonna hit something

by luifer5 on Jun 9, 2007 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
And ... he's deleted.  It was the same guy.  Don't know why I didn't think to check earlier.

by Jay on Jun 9, 2007 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
It's a little creepy how all of his posts get instantly deleted as well...sort of like he never existed at all...

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Right, exactly like that.  It's the appropriate course when a user only registered to be a troll -- unlike others who were merely suspended, not deleted.

I deleted all the replies this time around as well, hope nobody minds.

by Jay on Jun 9, 2007 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
That is weird. All of Brandini's posts gone? That's an incredible number.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
No, we wouldn't do that.  Brandini was well intentioned up to a point, and he made some valuable contributions.  Deletion is only for those who were only here to troll.  Brandini actually was a lot like his namesake BP -- he had talent, but also a bloated sense of entitlement, stubborn, uncoachable.  Not necessarily a bad guy.

by Jay on Jun 9, 2007 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I have a sixth sense for who to hate on the internet.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Sorry for feeding the troll.
Disclaimer: this post doesn't mean what you think it means.

by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
So just out of curiosity, is this guy goreds, Slayde, and bubbafan?

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Good outing by Perez, really kept us in the game

by luifer5 on Jun 9, 2007 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
when will we see more Dellucci righteousness?
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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Damn, missed some strangeness tonight eh! hard to follow the posts, with the deletes and all

by JK in CBus on Jun 9, 2007 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
That was just the right amount of righteousness, there, David. I really appreciate it.
Disclaimer: this post doesn't mean what you think it means.

by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Consider me one of Dellucci's hoochies for the evening

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I was Always a fan of DD.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
New ballgame, boys.
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Dellucci a true indian, first the home plate thing with Barfield, the homerum against Detroit and this one

by luifer5 on Jun 9, 2007 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
How do you pronounce your name? Or did you mean "Lucifer"?

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
haha no, is Luis Fernando, thats just a mix of my name

by luifer5 on Jun 9, 2007 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Fireworks.  heh.

by Mark @ Let's Go Tribe! on Jun 9, 2007 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
These Reds announcers have the depth perception of Mr. Magoo. "That'll stay in the yard"....yeah by 200 feet.

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
So the Italian Fest fireworks were for Delucci?

by SuddenSam on Jun 9, 2007 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Man, f%$# Brandon Phillips
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
That smile of his makes me want to vomit.

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
The kid loves to play, he always did.  He just didn't have much to smile about while he was here.  I remember the big smile and energy from when he started out in 2004.

by Jay on Jun 9, 2007 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Yeah!
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Seriously, BP, we get it. Please start being less awesome at baseball when we play the Reds.
Disclaimer: this post doesn't mean what you think it means.

by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I just noticed this stat, "Holds." Is it obvious, that is he held the game where it was, didn't give up any runs? Is this becoming a valid stat to evaluate a player?

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
No.

Also, just as with Saves, you can give up a run and still get the Hold.

by Jay on Jun 9, 2007 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Nats beat the Twins, alright!
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Maan....Michelangelo Betancourt is too dominating.

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Bettacnourt has been a nice surprise this season. Anyone know his conract status?

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Just looked at ESPN.  Apparently Clemens did more than eke out a quality start against Jason Bay and eight Four-A hitters.  Apparently he also "rekindled the Yankees spirit."

Oh.

I hope they write more about that tomorrow.

Also, righteous catch.

by Jay on Jun 9, 2007 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I really enjoyed watching Roger's AA start, complete with pitch count at the bottom of the page.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
(Betan)Court is adjourned!
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
On the catch at the wall by Dellucci...anyone else noticed this year that our defensive positioning seems stellar?  Seriously.

by NickFantana on Jun 9, 2007 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Ah I would take issue with that. The amount of doubles we allowed during the KC/Detroit/Boston/Detroit stretch was quite troubling with how many were sneaking along the ground.

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Make 'em pay, Pronk.
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I guess they paid, but had plenty of change left.
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
So hard not to say something mean about Hamilton.

by Jay on Jun 9, 2007 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
He overreacts way too much, but I kind of like his game calls for the most part.
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
No, I meant Josh Hamilton.  Not Ham.  Ham is awesome.

by Jay on Jun 9, 2007 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
lol, OK. Josh is the guy that came back frum the cocaine(?) addiction, right?
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
David Weathers looks like that guy from "Scream" and "Scooby Doo" (Shaggy)

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Oh give it a try, why not?

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
A f%$#ing pop-up on 3-0? Come on, Vic.
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
1-2-3 against David Weathers. Not good.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I'm becoming desparate for this win, for no apparent reason.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Funny how that happens, isn't it?

by Jay on Jun 9, 2007 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
This has become a total grudge match. I don't even leave in the CLE and I now hate Cincy. With all the mean posts, I think we all want this game more than the usual.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
True dat
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Most of the mean posts were from a troll who usually is pestering the Reds fans.  He took the first comment in this entry (see above) and ran with it, trying to spark a fight.  The Reds fans are fine, with few exceptions.

by Jay on Jun 9, 2007 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Its bad when the wife looks at you and says, 'its Tied?!? and they lost last night?  Doesn't Cincy stink?!'

by JK in CBus on Jun 9, 2007 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
If Betancourt doesn't come out, who is left in the bullpen that we have the most confidence in right now? Haha please don't say JoeBo.

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
The NL is so dumb. All this pinch hitting. I know it's 'real baseball' but I was raised on AL and I can't get behind this NL idiocy.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
The funny thing is I have more confidence in one of our relief pitchers getting a hit than throwing Mike Rouse in there.

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Totally off-topic, but man, what a screw-job it was that Albert belle didn't get the MVP in 1995.
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
sit down, Dunn, you fat punk.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
That looked low. And away. I'll take it.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
MLB.com announcers not happy with that call: "If that's a strike, than those were strikes against Delucci."

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
The Reds commentators are criticizing Dunn for not wearing high socks, to show his knees, to make how high his zone is more obvious to umpires.

And now sort of taking it back.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
"Uh, we said that tongue in cheek."

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
He didn't sound too affable when he said it, did he?

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
No, like someone told him, "hey you're sounding too angry. Chill."

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
And, Raffy also thinks pinch hitters are dumb.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Manning:

"This is a big game, because you have to win tonight to win the series since you lost last night."

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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Rick "master of the Obvious" Manning.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Now they're kissing Bettancourt's ass.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
God, Underwood made that obviously foul ball sound like it was going to be a game-winner.
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Whew.

This park makes me nauseous.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Rafael hasn't given up a walk since April 4.

by Jay on Jun 9, 2007 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Set him, don't give in.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Wow that Reds fan in the crowd is a lucky guy.

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Ten pitches ... still only two balls.

by Jay on Jun 9, 2007 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Oh boo
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Okay, I jinxed him, sorry.  It was a good pitch, though.

by Jay on Jun 9, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
BS, looked good to me.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Let's get this ass
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Hope you're right otherwise that's two jinxes

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Anybody have stats on how many guys have stolen off Raf this year?

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
0-for-2.  He's only put 15 guys on first base to start with.

by Jay on Jun 9, 2007 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Suck it, BP
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
You delivered the good news to me, sir. Thank you very much.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
My pleasure!
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
These fans and commentators can't help but assume every fly ball is a homerun.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I like extra innings. It's like "here, Ang! Have more baseball than you thought you were getting!"

By which I mean, given the way he's hitting against us, I expected the worst at BP's at-bat.

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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Let's make Griffey leading off next inning an afterthought...

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Well, we'd have to score at least three runs to do that.

by Jay on Jun 9, 2007 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I don't mean to harp on it but the fact that they do a "Who's Left On The Bench" graphic to me is just flabbergasting.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I was raised on NL ball, and even now I'm kind of weirded out how completely different the two games are. (And I apparently prefer the AL version!)
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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
lol, NL
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Man, Underwood is pissing me off.

"HE NAILED ONE TO DEEP LEFT... and it's cuaght" about 25 feet from the wall. Christ.

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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
This ballpark makes everyone expect home runs, apparently.
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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
But seriously, he does this every game
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
It's true. It's just almost excusable at Great American.
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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
One of my first posts ever here was an idiotic one about Victor Santos and the Rule 5 draft.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Ugh, Rouse in at short.
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Yeah I don't love that. What's the point of not saving him for a PH? Do we really think he's that much better than JP in the field?

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
The season is young, right?

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
He better not throw a strike.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Totally un-gritty swing by Junior there.

by Jay on Jun 9, 2007 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Ah, Mastny
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Wait, I just realized that Conine is hitting cleanup.

LOL

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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
That couldn't have been a good decision...

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Yeah...that just lowered their win expectancy

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Please, people ... it's called a double-switch.  Have you really never heard of it?  Are the NL fans right about us?

by Jay on Jun 9, 2007 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
What be these double-switches thee speaketh of?

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I LOVE YOU FRANKLIN!
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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
HOLY SHIT GUTZ!!!
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
FGUTZ.

Man, seriousy, sorry Jay, but fuck Alex Gonzalez. Slinging his bat.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I'm not familiar with Gonzales, but he's acted like a real prima dona all night . . . downright BP-esque.

by mplswahoo on Jun 9, 2007 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Gutz...put him in an apartment with Carmona and give him some Stadium mustard

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Man, I forget who it was (I think it was Andrew, but I could be wrong) who told us about his secret dream that Barfield and Peralta were roomies and kept tossing each other things (the remote, bread). And now I'm just imagining life at the apartment of Carmona and Gutz. It involves Carmona throwing Gutz various things and Guts making spectacular catches, knocking over the sofa, whatever. They're clearly the neighbors of sit-com Peralta and Barf.
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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Yeah that's one of my fantasies. Peralta and Barfield diving around throwing each other the parmesean cheese.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
holy crap Gutz, his defense is just amazing..what a catch

by luifer5 on Jun 9, 2007 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Was Gutz going full speed towards that ball?

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
That was a ballsy play. F Gutz is true Indian in my book.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
A future outfield of Sizemore, Gutz and Choo. That might be the ballsiest outfield I've ever seen.

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Alright....let's stop foolin' around and win this game now so we can get rested up for the Cavs game tomorrow!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Jun 9, 2007 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Wait. Jake's in the dugout? Seriously, I just saw him I think.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Yeah he's in there every game he's not pitching in Buffalo. I saw him a few times last week.

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I think he wants to make sure he's not forgotten.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
ahh . . . too bad Barfield didn't lean into that one a bit . . . .

by mplswahoo on Jun 9, 2007 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
of course, a single to left works just as well . . . .

by mplswahoo on Jun 9, 2007 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Reds announcers didn't complain much about that 2nd strike to J-Barf.

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Stupid NL ball. Of course, that's probably the best thing you could get out of Rouse.
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
There are very few times I accept a sac bunt. This particular situation is one I will accept because, as you say, Rouse.
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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Good time for a triple, Grady.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Look at that bathandling out of Rouse.

That's one of my favorite things about the NL. How much they talk about "bathandling."

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Not much else to talk about... chicks dig the AL.
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
He won't see a strike.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Not with his eyes.  But that's because he has them closed and is using the force.

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Do, or do not. There is no try, Grady.
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Woops!
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I know that's not an NL-centric thing but:

LOL NL.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
indeed
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
LET'S GO, TRIBE!
LET'S GO, TRIBE!
LET'S GO, TRIBE!
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
HERE WE GO, CASEY, HERE WE GO!
/stomp, stomp

HERE WE GO, CASEY, HERE WE GO!
/stomp, stomp

HERE WE GO, CASEY, HERE WE GO!
/stomp, stomp

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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Let's go new and improved Casey Blake.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
That looked like your pitch, Casey...

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Reds announcers:  "Casey Blake averages anywhere between 11 and 13 or 14 GBDP per year."  

How is that possible?

by mplswahoo on Jun 9, 2007 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
These guys also claimed that Rouse was a great bunter. Even though he hadn't successfully laid one down before 5 minutes ago.

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Oh God, if there EVER was a time for Pronk to awake...
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
HAF-NER!
/clap, clap

HAF-NER!
/clap, clap

HAF-NER!
/clap, clap

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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
remember everybody, Pronk needs us

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Will the real Pronk please stand up? Please!!!!!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Jun 9, 2007 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
You're gonna see good pitches

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
lol, OK

Run scores but man, when will Hafner come around?

Oh, and lol at Blake "gritting" into BP at 2nd.

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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
BP gets taken out at 2B. Now hat's baseball!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Casey Blake and Sowers want to play in the NL.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
LET'S GO, VIC!
LET'S GO, VIC!
LET'S GO, VIC!
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Casey Blake is an Indian

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Blake has ROCKED two men at 2nd this game. Gritty gritty gritty.

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Get into one, V-Mart.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
/flails.
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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Enjoying your extra innings?

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Yes.

/hugs them and loves them and class them George.

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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Er. Calls. I spel gud.
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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Alright nothing confuses me more on this board than flails. Because there are good flails and bad flails. And I can never decipher which is which.

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I flail when nothing happens and I am exciteable. Flails from me mean "If Ang doesn't post again, make sure she hasn't had a heart attack and died," mostly. :)
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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
YA!
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I also love you, Victor.
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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Alright, Gutz, let's go.
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
... back to making great catches in the outfield
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Victor Martinez, face of the franchise, for now.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
VIC VIC VIC VIC VIC

WHERE IS MY VIC CARD. I AM GETTING RBIS AND FREE GROCERIES AT HARRIS TEETER.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
L O L

Post of the Month!

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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I pardon you for that, Gutz. No go play some more D

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Gutz: Fly balls are only "the right way" with fewer than 2 outs. Get with the program.

by fleerdon on Jun 9, 2007 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I wish we had promoted Jeff Stevens to come in for the save here.

by fleerdon on Jun 9, 2007 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
it took me two innings to catch up on the last few hours' posts.

f the reds.

keep gutz on the roster.

let's finish off this game.

LET'S

GO

TRIBE

by Brick. on Jun 9, 2007 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
LET'S GO!
/clap, clap
JOE-BO!
/stomp, stomp

LET'S GO!
/clap, clap
JOE-BO!
/stomp, stomp

LET'S GO!
/clap, clap
JOE-BO!
/stomp, stomp

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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Nice!
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Nice.

Shut up Hatteburg

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
ONE MORE, BOYS
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Yeah, Scott Hatteberg. You usually get a lot of calls, right?

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Did Martinez taunt Hatteberg after he complained about that call?

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Jun 9, 2007 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
It looked like a little bit of back-and-forth there, yeah.
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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
HUZZAH
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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
YES YES YES
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Joe, just doing what Joe does. Throwing strikes, getting saves.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
I'm in ur ballparkz, gettin' all ur savez
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
if only i could find a good picture of jobo in indians gear, i'd make that macro.
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by AngG on Jun 9, 2007 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Saving lives. No, wait.

by fleerdon on Jun 9, 2007 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Suck it, CincinNASTY
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Game balls-Gutz, delucci, V-Mart, grady, Perez, Bettancourt, Borowski! Good win.

by BoDiaz1974 on Jun 9, 2007 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
No game balls on this team, only pie.
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 9, 2007 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Some bakery in Cleveland needs to become the official pie supplier to the Tribe...or have I missed that?

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Jun 9, 2007 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
That one feels nice.  And we stay up by 2.5 on the Tigers.  And we can look forward to the CC/Harang matchup tomorrow.  Nice.

by APV on Jun 9, 2007 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Early pie prediction for tomorrow - CC hits a home run

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 9, 2007 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
As of this minute, Indians now 1st in the AL in HRs and OBP. Hard to beat us with that combo. And with the Rafs of course.

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2007 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Extra innings on the road. Nothing wrong with that.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Firefox just had an epileptic fit over this thread. Firefox is an Indian fan. We are all Indians fans. Life is good.

by fleerdon on Jun 9, 2007 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
A very satisfying win.  (even though a crappy team made it tougher than it should have been)

by mplswahoo on Jun 9, 2007 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Apparently, the Cincinnati solution to bullpen issues is to exploit the small sample size for all it's worth.

by fleerdon on Jun 9, 2007 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
So, does Sowers make his next start in Miami?

by mplswahoo on Jun 9, 2007 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Whoa, Jeremy went to college already. Even the Indians can't demote him THAT far.

by fleerdon on Jun 9, 2007 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Ick. If Jake's health is not in danger, I say let him throw. He induced a bunch of groundballs. Let him throw an extended session and see what happens.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2007 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree about an extended session in the
bullpen - sorry, I initially didn't see that in your answer.  If he does well in the extended session, I'd consider bringing him back, but I'd still like to see him make one more Minor League start before returning; there were even hints/rumors that it would probably take 3 Minor League starts before Westbrook was ready to go, even though Westbrook was only planning on making two, but after last night's performance, I think he could use one more to make sure he's ready to take on ML hitters again and give us a realistic chance to win.

Just my 2 cents.  :-)

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Jun 10, 2007 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

It sounds like Westbrook might need a few
more rehab starts before he's ready.

Hello everyone,

Great comeback tonight - special props go out to Perez (despite the one bad pitch to Griffey - he looked pretty good other than that pitch,) Dellucci (big HR,) Gutierrez (game-saving catch,) Blake (for his hard slide on Phillips to make sure there was no DP on Hafner's grounder,) Martinez (for the big insurance run,) and Borowski (for setting them down 1-2-3.)  Betancourt and Mastny did pretty well as well (with Mastny getting a big assist from Gutierrez.)

Andrew - I think either Mike Hegan or Tom Hamilton were suggesting on the radio that Westbrook might need a few more rehab starts before he's ready to go - I know he got a lot of ground balls, but he did walk 3 AA batters in just 2.1 IP, with only 1 K and 4 ER.  And Akron's defense didn't make an E in that game, so those hits seemed to be legitimate hits off Westbrook, not due to bad defense.  I think he could use at least one more AA or AAA start to get his command back in order - I'm not sure we could expect him to do very well in his first ML start back if we brought him up now; I'd prefer he had one solid Minor League start under his belt, and when I mean solid, that's not necessarily throwing 5-6 shutout innings (though it'd be nice,) but to not give up so many walks and hits.  I mean, these are AA hitters - they shouldn't be hitting Westbrook that well.

I know we'd rather have Westbrook up here and Sowers back at AAA Buffalo, but you'd like to Jake to be as ready to go as he can be and give us a realistic chance for us to win that first game, and right now, I'm not confident his first start will be all that much better than what Sowers is giving us.  I think 1-2 more Minor League starts for Jake would be beneficial for him and the Indians in the long run because it would help to shake off some of the rust he still seems to have, rather than trying to shake that rust off up here - that might lead to a rough outing and a loss up here, whereas down there, the loss doesn't mean that much (to us at least.)

Just my 2 cents.  :-)

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Jun 10, 2007 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Hard to read this without the deleted stuff, I am dissapointed I missed these games on here. I despise Cincy. A few thoughts:

  • The Reds are really a bush league organization. I have never seen so much posturing from a team that is so bad.
  • Ken Griffey Jr. "hates" the the numbers that the organization has put up so the fans can track his HR's. He gets too much credit for being classy when, in reality, he is a greedy, arrogant, selfish person.
  • A current Reds player told Tom Hamilton that the Reds were a "bad team." The player said that "we don't do any baseball things well."
  • Tom's theory on the fireworks: a Kentuckian passing the ACT. (Note: my wife is a native of that city in the south and says that it could be Italian Fest in Covington).
  • I'll take CC against Harang any day.
  • I like lists.
NAIA: We're better than you and we don't even get money under the table.

by Brad D on Jun 10, 2007 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
LOL at hamilton, but I'm not exactly sure I get your beef with Griffey.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Jun 10, 2007 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
The Griffey thing stems from his "hating" the numbers the franchise has put up in an obvious attempt to honor him. Another reason for it is that when he approached 500 the Reds had recently gotten a new color man in the radio booth. Griffey insisted that Marty Brenneman call all of his at bats. That just struck me as very selfish as it denied the new guy a chance to do much of anything. Rather than call Griffey out the papers just acted like it was prefectly normal for a player to hold control of the announcers.
NAIA: We're better than you and we don't even get money under the table.

by Brad D on Jun 10, 2007 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
When did he say he "hated" the numbers? Is it possible he just doesn't want attention drawn to himself?
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Jun 10, 2007 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
In an interview with Tom Hamilton before the game. He said that he "hated" the numbers because he felt it put more pressure on him and that it wasn't fair.
NAIA: We're better than you and we don't even get money under the table.

by Brad D on Jun 10, 2007 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
Cool we won. Had to leave bottom of the 10th to take the kids to Shrek the Third, meh it was sold out.

by new zealand tribe fan on Jun 10, 2007 2:06 AM EDT reply actions  

A few further thoughts!
Hello everyone,

Two things:

  1. fwembt - I think the TV announcers mentioned that there was an Italian festival going on; they thought it was in Cincy, but maybe it was in Covington across the river.

  2. From this Indians.com article, Wedge implies that Westbrook WILL MAKE 1-2 more rehab starts, in all likelihood, so it seems Sowers won't be sent back down just yet (and Stanford didn't have a great night at AAA Buffalo, and hasn't for his last few starts, so I don't think he's a likely replacement for Sowers for a few starts either.)

On another note from that link above, Adam Miller is throwing off flat ground and will begin throwing off the mound on Wednesday.  He could rejoin the Bisons' rotation by the end of June.

Finally, check out these Indians.com links about the drafting of Mills and Day 2 of the draft (sounds like several of the Day 2 picks have high upside, even some of the college picks, and most of the picks this year were college draftees, not HS):

Mills: here
Day 2: here

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Jun 10, 2007 2:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: June 9, 2007
A couple points.
  1.  I was at the game.  Great Indians crowd last night.  Seemed like Tribe fans outnumbered the few Reds fans that are left.
  2.  The fireworks were for the Italian Festival in Newport, Kentucky.  The fans on the first base side were more interested in the fireworks than the baseball game.
  3.  Some idiots seated behind me were yelling the "Indians Stink" over and over.  I looked back and asked "If our first place team stinks then how bad must your last place team smell?"
  4.  GAB was almost packed last night.  Let's see if it is even half full for their next home opponent.

by LargeBill on Jun 10, 2007 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Some thoughts about your points!
Hello Largebill,

  1. It seemed like the Indians' crowd was large and boisterous - good to see!

  2. They showed some of the fireworks on the telecast - they looked nice, but I liked the baseball action myself.

  3. LOL - that was an excellent line - I laughed the first time I read that.  You deserve kudos for that line and for saying it to them.  :-)

  4. I have a feeling the attendance will drop off considerably - will they even have 20,000?  Or will it be less?
Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Jun 11, 2007 1:47 AM EDT reply actions  

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