Indians Top 50 Prospects
Not sure how I'd missed this, but theclevelandfan.com is hosting a really extensive prospect list for the Tribe.
There's a 50-1 countdown as well as earlier parts that detail just misses and winter league performances.
This will kill some time.
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by Voltaire on Jan 4, 2008 9:56 PM EST 0 recs
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by afh4 on
Jan 4, 2008 10:16 PM EST
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by crazymoloh on Jan 4, 2008 10:29 PM EST 0 recs
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Uhh. Whoa. Ok.
by afh4 on
Jan 4, 2008 11:05 PM EST
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by hans on
Jan 4, 2008 11:46 PM EST
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by ironmanatee on
Jan 5, 2008 12:02 AM EST
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by afh4 on
Jan 5, 2008 1:33 AM EST
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The HR was inevitable, and nice as well.
by hans on
Jan 4, 2008 11:49 PM EST
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WOW!
by The DiaTriber on
Jan 5, 2008 10:39 AM EST
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The first televised Captains game I ever saw had Mills and Weglarz going yard. I swooned.
by nickjs21 on
Jan 5, 2008 11:48 AM EST
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Here:
7. Nick Weglarz, LF, A. The 19-year-old outfielder hit .276/.395/.497 for an OPS of .892. That's very good considering the only players under 20 to have an OPS in the Sally League of .892 or higher in the last 15 years are: Adrian Beltre, Ian Stewart, Lastings Milledge, Vlad Guererro, Chipper Jones, Delmon Young and Kelly Johnson. That's good company to be associated with.
by hans on
Jan 6, 2008 1:07 PM EST
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by afh4 on
Jan 6, 2008 3:03 PM EST
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by Voltaire on
Jan 6, 2008 5:11 PM EST
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His deal? Incredibly young, projectable body, sick OBP, and power for days. He was 10th in the SAL in OPS and everyone in front of him was a year or more older than him, if I'm not mistaken.
by afh4 on
Jan 6, 2008 6:38 PM EST
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by fwembt on
Jan 7, 2008 2:29 AM EST
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Yes, he got hit with a pitch in his right
Hello Voltaire,
Andrew is correct - Weglarz was injured in the first game of the 2006 season - I believe it was a pitch that hit his right (I think it was his right) wrist/hand and that cost him the whole season.
I think the pitch broke his hamate bone if I remember correctly. It's unfortunate he lost that development time, though he still made a pretty seamless transition to Low-A Lake County without it, so he still seems to be on the fast track in terms of his relative age to league (offensively, at least.)
Like Andrew, I too am excited about his potential, especially in regards to his young age and how he performed at Lake County after missing all of the 2006 season, his advanced plate discipline for his age, and his projectable power. I know his defense is a bit of a concern at this point, but it was his first year in the OF, and most 18-19-YOs struggle defensively as they work on consistency and approach at their defensive positions, so it's not a major concern for me at this point - he'll likely get better with more repetitions and time in the OF.
Just my 2 cents - hopefully, this is helpful! :-)
by indiansfan on
Jan 6, 2008 9:01 PM EST
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Re: Yes, he got hit with a pitch in his right
by E5 on
Jan 6, 2008 9:07 PM EST
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by fwembt on
Jan 7, 2008 2:31 AM EST
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by E5 on
Jan 7, 2008 5:09 PM EST
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by APV on
Jan 7, 2008 5:22 PM EST
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by mauichuck on
Jan 7, 2008 5:27 PM EST
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by E5 on
Jan 7, 2008 5:29 PM EST
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by Voltaire on
Jan 7, 2008 5:43 PM EST
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Re: Yes, he got hit with a pitch in his right
by Jay on
Jan 7, 2008 6:30 PM EST
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No offense, but as Jay mentioned, why risk
Hello E5,
No offense, but it makes more sense to me to not risk a greater injury to a 18-YO player you drafted in the 4th Rd. (at age 17) and are expecting great things out of rather than give him 80-100 ABs at a level where he is no older than the league average, and arguably, is younger, since he played his first professional season in the States at age 17. I don't think any ML organization would have risked playing him after that type of injury, certainly not for 80-100 ABs. Any time you break a bone, it's usually considered a significant enough injury to warrant missing playing time.
I think you're referring to Red Sox 2B Dustin Pedroia, who played with a cracked hamate bone for the last two months of the season. There are a few differences between Weglarz and Pedroia:
- While both injuries are serious and probably should lead to time off (as both did require surgery to recover fully from them,) a broken hamate bone is more severe than a cracked hamate bone. Pedroia could manage to play with his, though who knows if he might have played better than he did, even though he played well. Even though he played well with the injury doesn't mean that the injury didn't affect him to some extent. We'll never know how well he might have played if he hadn't had the injury.
- Pedroia's cracked hamate bone wasn't discovered until Sept. 10 via an MRI, so it must not have been bothering him that much, as it wasn't even discovered until several weeks after he reportedly injured it. Weglarz's was immediately known after he was hit by the pitch in his second AB, and as mentioned before, his hamate bone was broken, not cracked like Pedroia's.
- Weglarz is a young, highly-touted prospect who's not that close to the MLs. Plus, the Indians are expecting great things from him, being that he was a 4th-Rd. draft choice and the fact that Weglarz was only 18 at the time he was injured. It was logical for them to err more on the side of caution, since Weglarz still has a great deal of time on his side to live up to that potential. Missing around 100 ABs was arguably more prudent than trying to rush back and get 50 ABs, risking a greater injury that could affect him down the road and hurt his ability to reach his great potential. It's likely every ML organization would have done the same thing as the Indians did in regards to shutting down a young, highly-touted prospect like Weglarz for the season after an injury like that.
- Pedroia is a solid prospect who had made it to the MLs and was helping contribute to the Red Sox's great season. Pedroia probably felt that if he took time off with the injury, being that he was a rookie and being in an organization that doesn't often rely on rookies to be starters, he might not get his starting position back, since this was his first full season in the Majors. Pedroia probably decided that he would play through it if at all possible, and must have been able to convince the Red Sox he could, along with the fact that the doctors felt that they could hold off until after the season to perform the surgery without any long-term complications. Again, Pedroia's hamate bone was cracked, but not broken like Weglarz's.
Just my 2 cents - no offense.
by indiansfan on
Jan 7, 2008 7:55 PM EST
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Re: Yes, he got hit with a pitch in his right
by fwembt on
Jan 7, 2008 11:49 PM EST
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Re: Hamate Fx
Here check this out under exam and you'll see that the hamate borders the ulner nerve and often causes ulnar weakness.
BTW in one of your previous posts you implied that all hamate fractures have limited recovery time. Uncomplicated hamate fractures resolve in 4-8 weeks, however some hamate fractures can lead to asceptic necrosis which requires surgery and can have a much longer recovery period. Untreated they can be quite serious.
by mauichuck on
Jan 7, 2008 5:26 PM EST
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Jan 7, 2008 6:00 PM EST
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Re: Yes, he got hit with a pitch in his right
by Voltaire on
Jan 6, 2008 10:03 PM EST
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by Jay on
Jan 6, 2008 6:44 PM EST
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I really can't explain how I feel about him. His numbers are so so alluring considering his age. That kind of plate discipline?
Alright, I'm jumping the shark. Must wait for Nick to actually play in A+ before I talk about him anymore.
by afh4 on
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by hans on Jan 4, 2008 11:29 PM EST 0 recs
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by ClarkM on Jan 5, 2008 4:39 PM EST 0 recs
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by hans on
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I'm rather enjoying this. Maybe I'll try to start a serious discussion about some of these guys in the next couple of days.
by afh4 on Jan 5, 2008 9:37 PM EST 0 recs
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by Voltaire on
Jan 6, 2008 12:40 PM EST
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link here
by hans on Jan 6, 2008 1:09 PM EST 0 recs
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by mcrose on Jan 9, 2008 3:39 PM EST 0 recs
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My impression is that over the last 2 years Tony has graduated from just kibbitzing on forums, and has actually made it a point to do the legwork and get to primary sources, talking to Tribe personnel up and down the system at every level, getting a lot of feedback from different sources on where individual players fit in the system's own evaluation charts. I'm jealous.
by mcrose on Jan 10, 2008 12:50 PM EST 0 recs










