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Marte sits, smart team gets dumber
You would think, as a stymied prospect, that the best place you could possibly be is backing up a guy who is the the worst-hitting starter in the league at your position, and one of the worst fielders as well — not to mention, he's in the last year of his deal, while you're with the team for the long haul. Hell, forget playing time, that other guy will be lucky if he doesn't get DFA'ed, right? Right?
No — not if you're Andy Marte. That other guy is apparent manager's pet Casey Blake — and let me emphasize, I really hate saying that, "manager's pet." I hate resorting to that kind of reductionist cartoon characterizing of players or managers, because it can keep us from seeing small moves for what they really are, and from working harder to understand the reasons behind large moves. But really, at this point, what is there left for us (or Andy Marte) to think?
And in a way it's even worse than that, because Blake doesn't have to sit to get Marte in the game. Blake plays a fine first base and is also a very capable outfielder, something the Indians seem to have forgotten. That makes five spots in the lineup that Blake could occupy — 1B, 3B, LF, RF, DH — and as it happens, the Indians have struggled to find production in all five of those spots, with the worst OPS in the league at 3B, the second-worst in RF, the third-worst at DH, and the fourth-worst in LF and at 1B. Not one of our regaular corner players (Garko, Hafner, Gutierrez and Blake) boasts even a meager 700 OPS, and even Dellucci and Francisco are putting up numbers that are merely league average, and below-average for left field.
So you would think, as a stymied prospect relegated to providing depth from the bench, that when your team is struggling at all five possible positions where you could indirectly or directly provide depth, that you would be getting a ton of playing time. But no. The Indians have shown no interest in playing Blake in the outfield this season, despite the fact that he's been one of the league's best defensive outfielders by many measures and one of the league's lesser third basemen. And yet, the Indians have been desperate to get offense, and Shapiro has admitted not having any real explanation or solution. They're willing to try anything, shuffling the batting order, resting guys in slumps, dumping Michaels for Francisco, even Jason freakin' Tyner, "the Neifi Perez of outfielders."
Basically, they're willing to try anything except giving Andy Marte a real shot. Which is odd, because just a year ago, they were willing to try that. Back in 2003, Brandon Phillips got 300 at-bats, starting 82 games out of 94. Just last season, Josh Barfield got 390 at-bats, starting 106 games out of 113. Marte, however, got just 39 at-bats and 12 starts last season before going on the DL, and he's never gotten another chance.
If the plan wasn't to give Marte playing time in the event of struggles at 1B and 3B and LF and RF and DH ... then what the hell was the plan?
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Pitcher Analysis: Cliff Lee
[Editor's Note: I've invited Kyle Boddy of Driveline Mechanics to analyze an Indians pitcher. Here's his statistical and mechanical analysis of Cliff Lee's amazing start to the 2008 season - Ryan]

Phrases that I heard about Cliff Lee over the course of the 2007 season:
- He’s a bum!
- Good riddance - enjoy Double-A, you idiot.
- We should have traded you for Matt Murton while we had the chance!
Phrases that I have heard about Cliff Lee over the course of the 2008 season:
- We love you!
- Never leave!
- Thank God we didn’t trade you for Matt Murton!
Funny how things change, isn’t it?
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Postponed
The Indians announced an hour ago that tonight's game has been postponed, and no makeup date has been announced. While you might expect the teams to double-up tomorrow or Sunday to make up the game, as these same two teams did just last Thursday, Anthony Castrovince speculates that August 18 might be the date. That's a common off-day for the two teams, immediately preceding a scheduled three-game set between the two at the Prog, but it would also create a 25-day span with no off-days for the Indians. Both teams might prefer to do a double-header on Saturday, September 13, after rosters have expanded to 40.
Both teams have announced that tonight's scheduled starters (Sabathia and Hochevar) will go on Saturday, with Saturday's original pair (Laffey and Meche) going on Sunday. With a scheduled off-day on Monday, however, if only two games are played this weekend, the Indians could opt to skip Laffey's turn, starting Sabathia and Carmona against the Royals this weekend and then Lee-Byrd-Sabathia as originally scheduled against the Yankees, all on regular rest
They could in fact send Laffey down tomorrow and keep an extra player on the roster for those five games, recalling Jeremy Sowers to make starts on May 9 and 14. It was the first rainout, after all, that forced the Indians to bump Sowers back to Buffalo in favor of Laffey. Neither Ben Francisco nor Brad Snyder is eligible to be recalled this weekend, but the Indians could supplement the bullpen with Ed Mujica, or give a first cup-of-coffee to Wyatt Toregas or Michael Aubrey. Francisco could be recalled in time to start the Yankees series.
Of course, none of this will matter if the teams instead play a double-header on Saturday or Sunday, in which case the Indians rotation will move forward as originally planned.
Tonight's postponement also postpones our first look at Wedge's reshuffling of yesterday's reshuffled lineup — lineup 2.0.1 if you will — in which Casey Blake returns to the #8 spot while Franklin Gutierrez ascends to the all-important two-hole. Blake struggled mightily in the past two series (458 OPS) while Gutierrez thrived (943). Neither man has put up significant power numbers, and Blake has walked more, but I don't think Wedge is just acting in ignorance of BIP variance here. You can see the difference in ther body language at the plate, while the numbers show that Blake struck out 11 times in just 24 at-bats.
As I write this, the Twins are pummeling the TIgers 8-1 after seven innings, poised to move just a half-game back of the White Sox, who lost hours ago, while shoving the Tigers into 3rd place, 1.5 games back. (Tough loss today for Buerhle, who pitched an eight-inning complete game and allowed just two un-earned runs, no walks, four singles and a double.) The Indians are now just one game back of the White Sox for the division lead.
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Updates
The Game
Unlike most sites, we were "lucky" in that the game we'd have been Game Threading was delayed by rain.
The game has been rescheduled for today, 6:10 p.m., with Carmona still scheduled to start. Today's originally scheduled 8:10 p.m. game has been pushed back to 9:40 p.m., with Lee still scheduled to start.
The Rotation
Jeremy Sowers will make the spot-start on Saturday, filling in for Jake Westbrook. This is a mild surprise, as Aaron Laffey has slightly better numbers so far this season for Buffalo. Wedge has said that Francisco is likely to be sent down to make room for Sowers ("I told Benny it's more than likely just a couple days.")
An unfortunate side-effect of the postponement of last night's game is that, if two games are actually played tonight, the Indians will need not just one spot starter on Saturday, but also a second spot starter on Monday. With no rest day until May 5, the Indians would have to start Carmona on short rest on Monday in order to keep the five-man rotation in order, even with Sowers added.
Instead, the Indians will need another spot-starter on Monday, and that game's starter will also be lined up to take the mound the next time he's needed, on Saturday, May 3. In other words, if both games are played tonight, then Sowers likely will be sent down to after this Saturday's game, to be replaced by another pitcher who can start on Monday and the following Saturday.
One would think that would be Laffey, but Laffey is scheduled to start for Buffalo tonight, which would put him on short rest for a Monday start. Tantalizingly, Monday will be Adam Miller's turn in the rotation in Buffalo. Miller emerged from March's rehab and April's extended spring training to make his official 2008 debut last night, pitching five innings and giving up three runs, though none earned, throwing 84 pitches and looking "completely healthy." He has never pitched in the majors.
After May 3, the fifth starter could be skipped until May 12, but if Sowers is demoted this Sunday, he will not be eligible to return until May 17. Given the Indians' fondness for playing with a 27-man roster, with four reasonably good spot-starter options in Buffalo and on the 40-man roster – these three plus Brian Slocum – we may well see three different spot starters over the next month if Westbrook remains out that long.
Westbrook is eligible to return from the DL as early as May 6.
The Site
As you probably noticed, the site was down last night, along with the entire SBN 2.0 network. There was a massive but intermittent failure following a significant server upgrade performed the night before, and the network couldn't be brought back online without making significant changes and diagnostic tests. The problem turned out to be bad RAM, but as those with an IT background can attest, it's very rare to have bad RAM cause intermittent problems rather than immediate failure, which made it hard to track down.
Naturally the SBN folks are deeply disappointed and frustrated to have had these problems, and naturally we all were annoyed by it — and naturally, this whole experience has the technical team already planning out deeper redundancies and "more paranoid" upgrade processes (their words). On the other hand, I believe there's been less than ten hours of downtime on SBN over the past 30 months since I got involved, and the technical ambition of the 2.0 network speaks for itself.
Things may be a bit spotty for the next day or two, but we're told that the major failures should be over. For future reference, we'll post updates on the LGT Facebook group forum in the event of a significant outage.
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Short-term rotation options
With Jake headed to the DL, the Indians will need to call up a starter from Triple-A to take his spot in the rotation. Only two starts need to be covered if Jake's stay lasts only the minimum 15 days, which is likely.
To avoid starting anyone on short rest, the Indians will need a spot start by Saturday the 26th at the latest. Westbrook's turn comes up on Friday the 25th, but Byrd could start a day early, Friday rather than Saturday, and still be on the usual four days of rest.
Fortunately, the Indians have four Triple-A starters who could be used without disrupting their normal routines too much.
Aaron Laffey looks like the odds-on favorite, and he could start Friday, in Westbrook's usual spot, with just one extra day of rest. He's got a 3.13 ERA in four starts and is coming off five scoreless innings with 5 K and 2 BB.
Jeremy Sowers is a close second choice, with overall numbers that are very similar to Laffey's but are just slightly lesser. His K:BB are 16:8 rather than 18:6, and his BIP aren't quite as grounded. He could start Saturday on regular rest, with Byrd moving up his start to Friday.
Sean Smith makes an intriguing option and could start on regular rest Friday or with one extra day on Saturday. He got roughed up two starts ago but is carrying a heavy 10 K/9, something neither Laffey or Sowers is every likely to do. Smith is not on the 40-man roster, however, so another player would have to be released, traded for a minor leaguer, or moved to the 60-day DL in order to add him. Further, with four other Triple-A starters already on the 40-man, there's no reason to think adding Smith now would turn out to be useful later in the season.
Atom Miller makes for the most interesting choice of all, however unlikely. Miller finished rehabbing weeks ago and has been in extended Spring Training ever since, preparing to start his season tomorrow night in Buffalo. The Indians certainly could have Miller throw a bullpen session tomorrow rather than making his scheduled start, which would have him set up to start a game on Friday or Saturday. I don't think they'd do that considering how (justifiably) careful they've been with Miller ... but you never know.
Scott Elarton and Brian Slocum will not be considered, in Slocum's case because he pitched tonight and so could not step into the Indians rotation on regular rest, and in Elarton's case because he's been used out of the bullpen all season and hasn't faced more than 14 batters in any game – in the majors, minors or Spring Training – since last June.
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Why We'll Win

My real prediction: Another long season for Tigers fans.
I learned something from my post yesterday, from the way it not only didn't provoke much discussion, it actually seemed to chill discussion everywhere on the site. It just seemed to trigger the latent resignation that flows in our veins as Cleveland fans. Maybe I've should have known better, maybe I thought your intelligence would kick in, maybe I owe you an apology.
But people ... how could you fall for that?
Have you forgotten who and what this team really is?
The guys who went 96-66, the best record in baseball.
The guys who played through snow-outs, who played three home openers and won all three.
The guys who set the tone early by sweeping the Tigers in Detroit.
The guys with the best and deepest rotation, the most dominant 1-2 punch, the Cobra, the best big three, and the goddam Cy Young winner.
The guys who beat the best pitcher in the game five times in one season, when no other team had ever beat him three times.
The guys who stalled out in June and July but never collapsed, and the guys who charged back to dominate down the stretch.
The guys who took a surging Twins team, coming off a 9-3 run and threatening to get back in the race, and swept them both home and way, six wins over ten days , to end their season.
The guys who unceremoniously booted the Tigers out of the race with yet another sweep, sending them 7.5 games back when they could have been 1.5 games back. That's the photo at the top, the first game of that series, Casey Blake with the walkoff in the 11th.
The guys who delivered a vicious beatdown to the Yankees in the playoffs, chilling and silencing a Yankee Stadium crowd. The guys who – let's just put it out there – nearly sent the best team in the game home early.

And yes, the guys who know all about pi ... and all about pie.
(Purely as an aside, when you do an image search for Chris Antonetti, one of the first results to pop up is this, which I take as just further proof that people must really, really love being a part of the Indians organization.)
Yeah, that's right ... those guys. You love those guys, remember? And they're more or less awesome, remember?
Those guys are back. Those guys have gotten better.
Those guys are going to win this year, and this is why.
- Pure talent. Seriously, did you really think the Tigers had more pure talent than the Indians? Sure, the Tigers had some injuries, but they had a bunch of fluke seasons, and all it got them was 88 wins. They had to import Miguel Cabrera just to try to close the gap.
Let me tell you about a difference in talent. On our club, we make Cliff Lee fight and practically grovel for the last spot in the rotation. On their club, they trade for "the Cliff Lee of the NL" and hand him the #3 starter job. When your #7 starter is about as good as their #3, that isn't just us having depth, it's them being in trouble.
People ... half our roster was born in the 80's. We aren't on the wrong side of 30, we're on the right side of 28. Our roster is younger, less injury prone, and full of guys who could take small or large steps forward. Garko or even Peralta could hit 30 home runs, and Sizemore could make a run at an MVP. Our catcher created 109 runs last season, theirs only 59 – and our guy is 29, while theirs is 36.
The Indians won 96 games last season, and our players as a group are on the rise. The Tigers won 88 games last season, and their players on the whole are in decline. MIguel Cabrera isn't enough to close that gap, and they traded most of their best young talent to get him. The Tigers may have a hair more raw talent than the Indians on their roster, but too much of that talent is old and breaking down. - Regression is a bitch ... for the other guys. It's the most clear-cut, powerful and undeniable force in baseball – stronger than the age curve and more reliable than platoon splits. The Tigers may seem poised to bounce back from a down year, but their 88 wins were propped up by a number of flukey career seasons, while our 96 wins by and large were not.
Just look at the BABIP for the two teams' regulars. The bottom of the list is Sheffield, who wasn't so much unlucky as he was playing hurt. Then there's Hafner, who definitely suffered some bad luck even if that wasn't his only problem. Then there's Inge, who won't be a factor, and Victor, who will. Check it out: Victor put up downballot-MVP type numbers despite hitting into some of the worst luck on either team. It would be hard to bet on him improving on 2007, but his luck probably will.
Now look at the top of the list – Ordoñez at .381, Granderson at .360, Polanco at .346, compared with their career marks of .314, .344 and .314. And not even listed there – Renteria at .375, against a career mark of .322. The snapback to reality on these guys is going to be enormous – PECOTA is mean-projecting a 56-run drop in production from Ordoñez alone – essentially negating the upgrade from Inge to Cabrera – to go with a 40-run drop for Granderson and a 30-run drop for Renteria.
In fairness, PECOTA predicts every player to drop after a good season, but this is an extreme case. Granderson production rate is not expected to fall off much – he will be 27 after all – but then again, Sizemore's high-looking .333 BABIP is actually below his career average, meaning he too was slightly unlucky, and Hafner also is a good bet to improve at least somewhat on 2007. As for the Tigers, their best bounceback candidate is a 39-year-old who's missed 150 games over the past two seasons.
So regression is a bitch for the TIgers, who won't score 900 runs this season, let alone 1000. But for the Indians, regression helps our lineup and work out about even in the rotation, where stellar seasons from Sabathia and Carmona were evenly matched by trainwrecks from Lee, Sowers and Westbrook.
And you know who else is due for some good luck with the balls in play? Joe Borowski. - Stellar depth. Another one I can't believe you fell for. How many teams have Josh Barfield as their 4th middle infielder, or Ben Francisco as their 6th outfielder, or Andy Marte as a backup third baseman, or Jeremy Sowers as their 7th starter, or Tom Mastny as their 9th reliever? I'll tell you how many, none. Every one of those guys would be playing in many other teams' lineups, rotations and bullpens. It's totally ridiculous, and it's a great advantage, and it will absolutely matter this year, as it matters every year for almost every team.
- Stellar youth. Of course young players are inconsistent, but they improve more often than they decline. Our youngest and least experienced key players will start at 2B and RF this season. Any risk there is strongly mitigated by the fact that for both players, much of their value is in their exceptional defense, which is far more predictable. And besides, the bar is incredibly low for each – the chance that we'll get less production out of those two positions in 2008 than we did in 2007 is practically nil.
- Babied arms. We have the best medical staff in the game, and they know how to protect pitchers. Case in point: Westbrook has never been more effective than in the second half last season, and this Spring he looked even better. Carmona is going to be fine, he breezed economically through almost every start last year, hardly ever pitching under stress. C.C. may show a little wear, but it won't break us. And as for the other guys, who cares? Our guys break down less than on any other team, and besides, we've got that stellar depth, too.
- Wacky bullpens – not a problem. You don't ever really know about bullpens. Some years they collapse, some years they're stellar. Here's the thing though ... last year, our bullpen collapsed and was stellar. Just look at the body count: Foulke, Oldberto, Matt Miler, J.D., Fernando – and most of the flame-outs were happening while Sowers, Lee and Westbrook were struggling to get into the 4th inning.
That's enough to break most teams' bullpens, which in turn is enough to break most teams – but not the Indians. They planned ahead, stocked up. Spent most of the decade acquiring and developing arms, then picked up four veterans in the offseason – and they took good care of Rafael Betancourt. That gave them a full boat of experienced guys in Cleveland, plus 4-5 young guys on the brink in Buffalo – plus Jensen Lewis in Akron.
So despite all the flame-outs, the Indians finished with the 6th best bullpen ERA in the majors – not only didn't the bullpen sink the Indians, it was actually a strength. The Indians keep 21 pitchers on the 40-man roster for just 12 big-league jobs, and this is the reason why.
And now they've done it again, picking up Kobayashi, Julio, and Breslow to replace Oldberto, Miller and Fultz. And this year, we've got Perez and Lewis taking the place of two multi-year head-scratchers. And young'uns Mastny, Mujica, Santos and Stevens in Buffalo. And who's to say we won't have another surprise breakout like Lewis' last year – Scott Lewis? J.D. Martin? Tony Sipp? Adam Mller? It's not that any one of these guys is likely to contribute, but the Indians have a ton of pitchers in various states of development and repair, and they basically never trade any. At some point, it becomes more likely than not that one or more will contribute, even from the rehab bin.
The Indians start off with a strong bullpen, full of guys with strong track records and hard-to-hit stuff, and it's considerably more stocked than Detroit's . But more than that, the Indians are very well prepared for the inevitable struggles, injuries and flame-outs, and the Tigers are not prepared at all. Wacky bullpens can sink almost any team, but they'll have a lot of trouble sinking these Indians. - Good timing. Wedge finally figured out how to beat Pythagoras last season, so we're all good now.
- That guy, finally. It's an even-numbered year, and that can only mean one thing: Miller Time.
I don't know if it'll be in the bullpen or the rotation, but Atom
Miller will be healthy this year, and that means a bunch of big-league
hitters are going to be striking out.
- Lack of Vizquel, Thome, Manny, Millwood, and soon Sabathia, too. It may be strange to say that losing Sabathia is part of why we'll win, but it is. This team, as much or as any team in professional sports, is run by grownups. They respect players, and their affection is palpable, but when it comes to making decisions, they leave their sentimentality at the door. They don't kid themselves – they know you can find great insights in statistical analysis, but they know it doesn't have all the answers. They're rigorous. They're pros. They've avoided the Big Mistake that sinks the season – or multiple seasons. And they've never, ever made decisions based on trying to save face with the fans.
They've built a great team with that approach, and I'll tell you just one more thing about them ... - Grit. Dammit, I'm telling you these guys got a lot of grit. Victor's got grit. Shoppach is brimming with grit. Sizemore will be diving in the outfield when he's 50. Stomp Lewis has to take medication just to keep his grit under control. Borowski has nothing but grit, but he'd never complain about that, because he's so damned gritty. Betancourt, he's got all that and a bag of grit.
And our much-maligned left field platoon, Dellucci and Michaels, those guys've got more grit than most entire rosters. You people should be worshipping at their gritty, clutchy, diving, ass-slapping feet.
And what I'm trying to tell you here, and I don't even know if it's right or natural or legal, but ... Diamondview's got grit. I don't know how they did it, but they got grit into the Diamondview somehow, and now it's spitting out chemistry and intangibles and That Elusive It Factor along with the usual performance projections and market undervaluations. We've never seen anything like it, but I'm telling you ... Diamondview's got grit.
And by the way ... Scott Elarton? Tom Mastny? Ben Francisco? That's right, even our depth has grit, which means that even our grit has depth. If somebody gritty were to go down – and they often do, because that comes with playing the game the right way, you know – we've got someone else ready to step in and play just as gritty – someone gritty enough to start on most teams. It's totally out of control. It's enough to make Darin Erstad retire and Joe Morgan's head explode.
So let me sum it up for you. We've got the talent, the timing, the grit, the smarts, the chemistry and the momentum. We've got everything worth having on a ballclub, and the only question to be settled is whether we're the best team in the game or merely the best in our division.
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Prospects That Matter – March 2008
Yes, the glorious day has finally arrived. After a 20-month hiatus, I'm finally excavating and updating my ramshackle prospect ranking system, formerly known as the Exciting Prospects Standard and now redubbed with the more apt (but no more humble) moniker, Prospects That Matter. Actually, it's not really a ranking system, it's actually a separating-the-men-from-the-boys system; the specific rankings are secondary, and frankly, I don't give them a great deal of thought. It is perhaps best described as a way of organizing the way we look at our young talent.
Why the new name? Well, my friends, I'm older now, and wiser, or perhaps more tolerant, or perhaps just lazier. If you really find Chris Gimenez exciting, I'm not going to argue with you about it. If, on the other hand, you want to tell me that Chris Gimenez should actually matter to an Indians fan, well, then, you might just have a fight on your hands. The aim of the system remains the same, and that is, for a diehard Indians fan who doesn't follow the minors closely, to identify those prospects that are really worth knowing about -- and not to bother that fan with guys who are merely over-hyped or over-drafted.
PTM attempts to identify: Which guys are the most likely to contribute to the Indians winning a pennant? Which guys are going to contribute the most, and which guys are going to contribute the soonest? To that end, the PTM player must meet one of these criteria:
- In Triple-A: succeeding at age 25, solid at 24, or younger.
- In Double-A: succeeding at age 23, solid at 22, or younger.
- In High-A: succeeding at age 21, solid at 20, or younger.
- In Low-A: succeeding at age 19, solid at 18, or younger.
- In short-season leagues: solid at age 17 or younger.
Triple-A players making this list are major-league-ready or nearly so and basically just waiting for an opportunity, while the High-A players on the list generally will be fairly high ceiling, and their success at such a young age makes them fairly likely to be a good major leaguer. The Double-A players are a nice mix of readiness and likely success. "Successful" generally means that he performed well enough to be promoted, and I try to take a nuanced view of a player's stats. I start with basic productivity but keep a careful eye on peripherals, and particularly on K rates for pitchers.
Statements from team officials may also be considered, but ultimately the choice to promote or not to promote a player is more credible than any verbal statement. Scouting reports are taken into account, but mostly with an eye toward projecting a player's defensive skills and likely role in the majors, which affects how good his bat will have to be in order to make it – in other words, in terms of pure hitting skills, the bar is lower for a standout defender like Brad Snyder than it is for a merely solid guy like Ben Francisco. Injuries are always considered a negative factor, and in the PTM context, I never consider injuries a mitigating factor for a mediocre performance.
In 2006, PTM stubbornly championed guys like Carmona, AstroCab and Lofgren before they were fashionable, Adam Miller even when he was injured, solid successes like Garko and frustrating cases like Ferd and Marte – the system is fundamentally better at predicting who will earn a shot in the majors than who will succeed there, though it may be no worse than other systems in that regard. Recent draft picks without track record and over-21 types dominating in the low minors were excluded without mercy, a tendency of PTM that irritated some fans in 2006 and will continue to irritate in 2008. PTM preaches patience, not only at the plate but in our prospect rankings. There are some guys I don't like leaving certain guys off the list any more than you do, but if the performance is there, those guys will jump on the list soon enough.
A note about the ages listed – it's their "seasonal age" for 2007, not 2008, listed that way because it's based on that age that we're evaluating their achievements so far. I also pay little mind to "official" rules as to what makes a prospect. If a player is 25 or younger and not a fully established major leaguer, he's a prospect in every way that actually matters to a team, or to a fan.
Prospects That Really, Really Matter — players who've met PTM criteria at an excessively young age.
- Asdrubal Cabrera – 21, SS-2B, thrived in Double-A and was solid in the majors. As if you didn't know.
- Aaron Laffey – 22, RHP, not a lot of strikeouts but also not a lot of walks, performed well and "equivalently" from Akron to Cleveland.
- Adam Miller – 22, RHP, struggled with injuries but way ahead of the curve in Triple-A. Still very much a potential ace.
- Jensen Lewis – 23, RHP, unusual to rank a reliever this high, but Lewis truly dominated in Akron, and then Buffalo, and then Cleveland, and then against the Yankees in the playoffs, with an ERA under 2.00 and K rate over 10. Frankly, this ranking might not be high enough — no other Indians prospect performed at this high of a level in 2007.
- Andy Marte – 23, 3B, and you don't have to like it. For one thing, once a guy has made the list, he only graduates by getting too old or succeeding in the majors. Try to imagine 2007 was Marte's first season in Triple-A — 766 OPS, 23-year-old third baseman, it's actually pretty good. But of course, his actual first season in Triple-A was at age 21. His three-year total, ages 21-22-23, are .268/.337/.473.
- Chuck Lofgren – 21, LHP, those who were disapointed by his season in Akron were forgetting how young he is to be an above-average pitcher at this level. Lofgren will spend his age-22 season in Double-A, and he's a lefty with better stuff than Laffey or Sowers.
Prospects That Really Matter — those who beat the PTM criteria with room to spare.
- Jeremy Sowers – 24, LHP, and like Marte, he would make the list based only on his age and 2007 numbers alone, but the high ranking is for his dazzling 2006 performance at age 23.
- Sean Smith – 23, RHP, not turning any heads but had a very solid season in Triple-A.
- Shin-Soo Choo – 24, OF, obviously slowed by injuries, but as with Sowers, we'd do well not to forget what he did at age 23.
- Eddie Mujica — 23, RHP, also slowed by injuries, and also more impressive in 2006 than in 2007, but check out the great K/BB rates. Still a potential impact reliever if he's healthy.
Prospects That Matter — others who've cleared the bar.
- Nick "Weglarz!" Weglarz – 19, OF, bounced back from injury to make a stellar full-season debut.
- Ben Francisco – 25, OF, improved on his age-24 numbers and made a solid debut in the majors.
- Jordan Brown – 23, 1B, a knee injury reportedly sapped his power, but he still hit .333, and it will be interesting to see how his power develops this season.
- Jeanmar Gomez – 18, RHP, suffocated Dominican Summer League hitters at 16 (2005) and dominated the Gulf Coast League at 17 (2006), although a bit reminiscent of Carmona, you have to wonder how a guy manages a 2.50 ERA with just 5.92 K/9. His full-season debut was merely decent, and he's going to have to show more strikeouts and fewer home runs as he progresses, but he improved in both areas as the season progressed. He'll be starting his age-19 season at High-A, something nobody else on this list has done or will do – youth and progress, that's what we're looking for here. Somebody really needs to do a scouting report on this guy.
- Jeff Stevens – 23, RHP, eye-popping K rates in Double-A and apparently not content to be a footnote, he may well hit the Cleveland bullpen in 2008.
- Carlos Rivero – 19, SS, marginal overall numbers, but a plus defender with a solid walk rate, and a decent amount of pop for a teenage middle infielder.
- John Drennen – 20, CF, not unlike Lofgren, his struggles caused some to:: forget that he was one of the youngest players in his league.
- Hector Rondon – 19, RHP, pitched better than Gomez at Lake County but is a year older, will also start the season in the Kinston rotation.
A few themes emerge on this year's list. For one thing, it's huge, which either means I'm getting more lenient, or the criteria are letting in certain types of players too easily, or that the Indians are justified in their strong confidence about the depth of their farm system, defying most "organizational talent" rankings. A small core of players has been promoted to the advanced-A Kinston club to start the year at age 19 or 20, and it's a happy mix of two pitchers, one skill position player and one power-hitting Canadian. This complements well the small core of college draftees who will converge on Akron in 2008 (with a good shot to make next year's list).
The other theme is guys succeeding in Triple-A at very young ages – not just at 25 but at 22 – but then possibly being stuck there, possibly because of a limited ceiling, possibly because that last jump to majors is the hardest. Spots 5-10 are fairly dominated by a sense of, "Don't give up on me, I'm still young, I still matter!" They all reached Buffalo by 22, and not one of them is 25 yet.
It may be that a future refinement of PTM should raise the bar in some way for Triple-A pitchers in particular, but then again, maybe the bar is just fine. Part of the premise of the system is that a guy who reaches Triple-A at 22 may have the same stats as a low-ceiling 25-year-old, but he's got three whole seasons to figure out how to make that last jump. Some research suggests that unlike a hitter's raw tools, a pitcher's stuff doesn't really improve after age 23, but it takes pretty good stuff just to get this far, and there's more to pitching than just stuff. Something to ponder going forward.
More lists after the jump.
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Why We'll Lose
First thing is, we're not going to lose, and there will be a companion article to this one explaining why we're not going to lose. But let's face the facts here, baseball is crazy, and the most likely scenario is that we face a tight race with the Tigers. We might lose. And if we lose, it will probably be for some combination of these reasons.
- Pure talent. The Indians have more healthy key players, more
talented depth players, and fewer players who stand to regress back
from having had career seasons in 2007. But on the whole, the Tigers
have more talented key players, and if guys like Sheffield and Guillen can stay
healthy, then their lack of decent depth players won't make much
difference.
PECOTA projects the Tigers to score only 15 more runs than the Indians, but that's a weighted-mean projection that significantly factors in the chance of losing key players to injury. If the Tigers generally stay healthy, the offensive difference likely will be far greater.
The Indians meanwhile are at significant risk for below-average production at three out of four corner positions, and several of our key players are over 30 (Dellucci, Michaels, Hafner, Borowski, Byrd, Kobayashi) and, as a group, not likely to get more healthy or more productive than they were in 2007.
And despite a reputation for starter depth, not one of the four guys slated to man the last two rotation spots (Byrd, Lee, Laffey and Sowers) is a solid bet to post a league-average ERA this season. - Sketchy defense. Two of our best three starters are extreme groundballers, and both are righthanded. That means a significant part of our fate will rest in the disposition of groundballs headed toward the left side of the infield, where we will be starting two guys who could fall off a cliff defensively at any time. Both Peralta and Blake have had moments in their careers where their defense was actually praiseworthy, but they've also both been atrocious over an entire season at least once.
Moving Asdrubal to shortstop probably won't be a serious option, as that would replace Peralta's bat in the lineup with Carroll's or Barfield's. As for playing Marte at third, even if we take the charitable view that all he needs is a good month or so to settle in as a big-leaguer, exactly how many balls get booted while he's doing that? - Troubled youth. Much of our 2007 success was due to unexpected performances from rookies, but we don't really know how Asdrubal or Gutierrez will look after more exposure to major league pitching. It would not be surprising if both of them struggled, and of course Marte has never really performed well in the majors. Add in Perez and Lewis -- and arguably Carmona -- and you're looking at a significant chunk of the roster in the unpredictably youthful column.
Moreover, we're unlikely to get big contributions from four rookies again in 2008, or in any season, or even from two rookies. - Wacky bullpens. It just wouldn't be surprising if four or five of our relievers just could not get their acts together this season -- these things happen, bullpens are just like that. Borowski, Lewis, Kobayashi, Breslow, Julio -- all those guys could tank, and Betancourt has been known to hit the DL now and again.
Even leaving out the pessimism, we simply can't expect Betancourt to have the most impact of any reliever in the game again, and we can't expect to get major contributions from two guys who aren't even on the Opening Day roster, as we got last year. The Indians 2007 success overall was not particularly flukey, but it was in this area. - Tired arms. This one has been beat to death already, but that doesn't mean it isn't a significant concern. Carmona at 24 is out of the notorious "injury nexus," and people tend to ignore the fact that he threw 174 innings at age 21 with no ill effect, so throwing 215 at age 23 is not necessarily that big of a deal.
Sabathia, however, threw 256 innings, which is a lot for any pitcher of any age or experience, and often threw under more stress than Carmona faced. Thta's 58 more innings than he'd thrown in any season except 2002, and even that year, he only threw 210. Let's not forget, Sabathia loses three starts or so to injury in most seasons anyway, so how can he be likely to stay healthy following a 30% jump in workload? He can't be. - Lack of quality depth. I'm serious. On our 40-man roster, we've got nine warm bodies for four corner spots -- Garko, Gutierrez, Dellucci, Michaels, Blake, Marte, Choo, Francisco, Aubrey and Snyder -- but only one of them (Garko of course) is a really solid bet to post above-average production in 2008.
In the bullpen, we started 2007 with at least four rookies waiting in Buffalo -- Perez, Mujica, Lara and Slocum -- young, talented, live-armed dudes who'd already gotten their feet wet in 2006. We don't have the same caliber of reinforcements to start 2008. It's basically Elarton, Mastny and a diminished Mujica. - That guy, still not helping. Adam Miller sure could help in a number of these areas, and yet he sure can't be counted on to help in any of them.
- Bad timing. Just as anything can happen in a short series, two evenly matched teams can produce just about any result in a 19-game season series. The Indians could outplay the Tigers by 6 games against all other teams and outscore them head-to-head with a few blowouts mixed in, but if they lose the season series 13-6, it won't matter. At the same time, while the schedule is very closely balanced for any two teams in the same division, facing a certain team in May isn't always the same as facing them in August.
- Lack of pie. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. Gritty, clutchy, leadership pie -- the kind of pie Trot Nixon knew how to make. Trot's gone, and we don't know if Dellucci or anyone else can pick up the slack.
- Lack of Vizquel, Thome, Millwood, Colavito. No, not really. Geez, man, get a life. Maybe you didn't hear, last year, we won 96 games without those guys, and all of their teams sucked. Yes, even Colavito's.
So that's the bad news. Of course it's always possible that the Indians will find some other, more bizarre or unpredictable way to tank their season, something nobody could have or would have ever predicted. Just ask Travis Hafner.
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Fultz and Breslow - what it is
UPDATE: I've posted some general comments about Breslow from our sister Red Sox site in this FanPost, worth a quick read. [Jay]
One of the Nicks -- I believe it was Iron Nick, not Steel Nick -- helpfully posted a link to this Comment I made a couple weeks ago. Many took that post as sort of a blanket defense or thumbs-up for Fultz, and I guess it's kind of the former but not really the latter. Some may not have taken full notice of this paragraph:
I don't see this as an awesome prediction (it isn't even follwed by a "Boo Thome"), it's just kind of stating the obvious.
My guess is that a lot of the negativity surrounding Fultz is just based on the fact that he's never impressed anyone and was a free agent signing. Most folks here are savvy enough not to scream at Shapiro every time he makes a minor league signing, understanding that these signings are insignificant when they don't pan out, and nicely significant when they do. We know that Shapiro doesn't envision the likes of Tyner and Elarton as centerpieces of a championship club.
But we still perhaps pin too much importance on our minor major-league free agents -- witness the vitriol sometimes directed at the likes of Hollandsworth, Rouse, Michaels, Carroll and Aaron Fultz. These guys are just bit players, "role players" in the parlance of the game, and it just happens that role player money has gone slightly north of $2 million. It's crazy, but it doesn't change the fact that they're role players.
What I'm getting at is that while the difference between a major league deal and a minor league deal is significant, it isn't enormous. Julio didn't get Fultz's deal, and Fultz didn't get Borowksi's -- and none of them thankfully got Baez's deal -- but the performance differences aren't great -- obviously. The minor league deal guys are a few good weeks away from the majors, and even Borowski is just a couple of bad months from being DFA'ed. And every one of these guys has been more effective than Baez, who got $19 million. (This is of course the very reason to go bargain-hunting for relievers -- the trashbin cumulatively has far more raw effectiveness left in it than the mid-tier free agent market for relievers -- but I digress.)
So that's the first broad point. The second broad point is that we never really get a non-ridiculous sample size when it comes to relievers. My comments earlier in the month essentially defended Fultz, but only to say, based on the numbers, there's little if any reason to hate the guy. But how much do the numbers tell us about a sporadically used reliever? Very little. With samples this tiny -- including all Spring Training numbers -- you have to rely on the scouts being on the ball with their evaluations, because the numbers just can't tell you anything with even a small amount of confidence.
Fultz's option was picked up, which meant only that based on what the Indians saw out of him last season, they felt he was worth giving another very-minor major-league deal for 2008 -- nothing less, nothing more. After the past three weeks, however, they felt they could dump him and not regret it -- but as always, the decision isn't based just on the player's performance alone, it's based on all the available options. Part of the utility of picking up Fultz's option is, simply, we don't know that a better option will present itself, either on the free agent market, or on the waiver wires, or in a trade, or from our own minor league system, i.e., some other lefty showing up looking like the second coming of Rafael Perez. Fultz looked terrible -- not just in the numbers, but in the eyes of the team's evaluators -- and also! a better option presented itself in Breslow.
Okay, then, Fultz is gone. And this one part of the prediction I will take credit for: They didn't hesitate to do it. (And let's pause for a moment of silent appreciation that our club is run by grownups.) (Thank you.)
As for comparing the two, I would speculate that even beyond his Spring struggles, the Indians really were not thrilled with Fultz in the specific role of LOOGY anyway. The Indians philosophically seem more oriented toward finding all-around good relievers rather than one-out relievers, but that doesn't mean they don't want a reliever who can dispatch lefties reliably. Given the composition of the rest of the bullpen, and specifically the desire to continue using Perez for more general late-inning work, they really need a guy with LOOGY potential moreso than just another decent lefty.
And I say this not just because of Fultz's track record but because of Breslow's. In his brief major league career, Breslow has faced 41 lefties and struck out 11 of them. In Triple-A Pawtucket, he racked up 14.37 K/9 against lefties in 2007, holding them to a 784 OPS despite a horrendously unlucky .455 BABIP. A year earlier, he had 11.40 K/9 against lefties. The two-year totals are 52 K, 15 BB, 4 HBP, and only 1 HR in about 165 PA. Also worth noting, he apparently doesn't do it with groundballs, which given our inconsistent infield is probably a good thing.
Of course Breslow is out of options, which is irritating, but he's also cheap -- as in, cheap for the foreseeable future. If we can put this guy back together, we've got him clear through 2013, ages 27-33, and he won't even hit arbitration until 2011. And remember, this is a guy with some decent career minor league numbers on his résumé -- 9.84 K/9, 0.69 HR/9. I think based on contract status alone, you probably have to take Breslow over Fultz, and eating the $1.5 million is just a small blip in that decision.
So that's my take. They're ditching Fultz because they can, and because they always knew they could, and because a better option presented itself in Breslow. And they like Breslow for Fultz's old job -- I think -- because they think he's going to give lefties real fits up there. And just like a minor league deal, it's no big thing if it doesn't work, but if it does work, it could pay off nicely -- and not just in 2008.
And if it doesn't work out? They'll DFA him, move on to the next guy, and never look back.
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Fultz to be DFAd; Lee the fifth starter
Recently acquired Craig Breslow will get the first opportunity to replace Fultz as the second left-hander in the bullpen. The Fultz DFA will open up a spot for Jorge Julio or Scott Elarton if the Indians choose either for the last spot in the bullpen.
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