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Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yankees 3

Indians lead series 1-0

Recap
Box Score
Win Probability Added @ Fangraphs

Highest WPA:

Victor Martinez .177
Kenny Lofton .162
Ryan Garko .099

Lowest WPA:

LeBron James -∞
Travis Hafner -.023
CC Sabathia -.014

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This is but one win, but what a win it was, holding the vaunted Yankee offense to five hits, knocking the Yankees' ace out of the game, hitting four home runs, and doing it all before a roaring home crowd.

CC Sabathia walked six, and had to throw 115 pitches in five innings. He was down 3-0 on Jorge Posada with the bases loaded in the fifth, and in an impressive feat, came back to strike Posada out, and induced Hideki Matsui to pop out. But however Sabathia finished, the Indians were left trying to hold a one-run lead for four innings.

That's where the offense came in, knocking Chien-Ming Wang out of the game in the bottom of the inning. Neither starter fared well with Bruce Froemming's miniscule strike zone, but Wang also continued to leave sinkers up in the strike zone. Victor Martinez's two-run home run was the key hit in that crucial fifth inning. Later, Casey Blake's two-run double finished Wang's night, and the rout was on.

Eric Wedge used his primary relievers the rest of the way, probably to get their postseason debuts over with. Rafael Perez was particularly impressive, striking out four of the six batters he faced. Jensen Lewis, an Indians fan growing up, pitched a scoreless 8th, striking out Hideki Matsui to end the inning, and walked off the field to a standing ovation. Rafael Betancourt finished things off.

What a night.

Next Up: Carmona vs. Pettitte, 5:07 PM.

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Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three:
Great game! Was in RF. Damon's HR sure looked foul live, and the spot the guy caught the ball was well in foul territory.

Saw Reggie Jackson walking with Brian Cashman down Prospect after the game. Reggie gave a wave. Cashman looked bald and not very happy.  

by oxforddave on Oct 4, 2007 11:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three:
Two other notes. Guys in the bathroom said LeBron switched to a tribe hat late in the game.

Also got told by security to stop telling the Yankee pitchers in the bullpen that they suck.

by oxforddave on Oct 4, 2007 11:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks for the reports!
Hello oxforddave,

Thanks for the reports - greatly appreciated!  :-)

I loved the reports on both the disputed HR ball and on LeBron switching hats.

Regarding the disputed HR ball, the TBS announcers mentioning, "Who needs replay when we have Froemming's eagle-eye vision," as he supposedly seen it all the way.  Amazing that he can't figure out a strike from about a foot in front of him, yet he could see that the ball was a HR from about 320 or so feet away?  Forgive me if I'm unconvinced - of course, it would have helped if TBS had had more than one camera angle - the angle they showed didn't show anything conclusive.

As for LeBron - amazing how quickly he can ditch the Yankees' cap.  TBS said that he's supposedly a big Derek Jeter fan, which makes me think he hasn't been a Yankee fan his whole life, since Jeter didn't come up to the Majors until LeBron was around 11-12 YO.  

If LeBron was wanting publicity, he's getting it all right, but likely is losing some of his own fans in the process; like I said before, I think it's in "poor taste" to openly root for a rival of the team in the same city you play in, especially in the postseason.  You can remain neutral or even publicly give support to your "home" team, even if you really want the other team to win.  It really would have been smarter on his part to do that in my opinion, as his image will be and has been negatively affected to some extent.

I loved the one fan's sign directed at LeBron:

"Hey LeBron
Witness the Indians
World Series '07."

Three words for LeBron - "Deal with it."  :-)

Just my 2 cents.    

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Oct 5, 2007 2:28 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Thanks for the reports!
I was at the game in Upper Deck near home plate, pretty much even with the 1B line.  The ball looked fair from that vantage point, which is similar to the view that Squeezy McGee had behind home plate.

I agree the replays from the broadcast I watched after are inconclusive, but I think they got the call right.

by steincat on Oct 5, 2007 11:46 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Thanks for the reports!
I was sitting on the third base side, lower deck, and I swear the ball was fair. I couldn't believe that anyone would think it was foul and was laughing when Damon had to slow his jog around the bases thinking that we were about to get a gift from the umpire gods.

by osoc13 on Oct 5, 2007 2:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty
APV,

Is this a subtle reference to one of the great ballads of all time, "North Dakota", by Lyle Lovett?

The first line in the song says, "The boys from North Dakota drink whiskey for their fun."

by tabler84 on Oct 5, 2007 5:35 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty
Man, you're up early.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Oct 5, 2007 5:38 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty
I'm a morning news anchor, baby!  Up early every day!

by tabler84 on Oct 5, 2007 5:48 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty
OK, now to you think I was laying it on too thick about my boy LeBron?
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Oct 5, 2007 6:53 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty
Chuck,

I feel like he continues to make egregiously poor decisions.  It's absurd and there's no doubt it's going to cost him support.  Not a huge amount -- fans want to win -- but people won't forget the image of LeBron in Yankee gear.

by tabler84 on Oct 5, 2007 7:37 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty
Hey Tabs - don't get all serious on me here.  

Every good drama needs villains and dups and LeBron is a trimmed down Fataff in this piece.

LeBrons young - hasn't had any real male guidance - he can learn.  But don't give him any slack until he changes his ways.

Meantime, I'm gonna keep bustin' on him - hard - until he straightens out.

LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Oct 5, 2007 7:47 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty
Chuck,

I think you ought to keep up the pressure!  LeBron is earning every ounce of derision.  It made me ill last night, and a little sad as well.  Can you see Hafner or Victor showing up to a Cavs game in Bulls gear?  Not a chance.

Overall, he's still far and away a better public figure than a lot of NBA stars, but it's just a different league.  The stars are hardly people; they're businesses -- they're brands more than human beings.  Too bad.

by tabler84 on Oct 5, 2007 8:03 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty
CC did say he roots for the Raiders when the play the Browns. Could you picture CC showing up to a Browns game wearing the Raiders' nation / KISS / Darth Vader gear. I would actually like to see that.

by hans on Oct 5, 2007 1:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty
I think that's a little different. No one here cares about the Raiders. Everyone hates the Yankees. Now if Grady showed up to CBS wearing a Roethlisberger jersey, we'd have a problem.

by ASP on Oct 5, 2007 1:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty
No. It think the difference is that he SHOWED UP IN OUR HOUSE SPORTING YANKEE REGALIA AND BEING VERY IN-YOUR-FACE ABOUT IT!!!! I don't care that he's a Yankees fan. Bandwagoners are a dime a dozen. To do it in our house? In-fucking-excusable!!!
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by crazymoloh on Oct 5, 2007 1:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty
Word.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Oct 5, 2007 2:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty
Also, CC is FROM the west coast. While it may piss some people off, i don't think it would the majority. No one is going to get mad at someone for rooting for their home team.

Lebron was simply being a front runner.

by tyler083 on Oct 5, 2007 2:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty
I'm sorry, but any Lyle Lovett allusions, while welcome, were unintentional

by APV on Oct 5, 2007 8:59 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty
Just a funny coincidence then, cause that the first line of that song seems perfect for Pronk.

by tabler84 on Oct 5, 2007 9:03 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty
Yeah, but no Stadium Mustard.
Will children still wake up early to eagerly check the sports page to see who is leading the league in holds?

by smtp on Oct 5, 2007 10:35 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
Have to love that Lebron received a -∞ for the game.
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by E5 on Oct 5, 2007 12:05 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three:
The commentary on Pinstripe Alley is simply priceless. They whine about, amongst other things, the announcers cheering for the Indians, the drum, CC's weight, Joe Torre and Wang. It's great. I absolutely love it.
Dealing with it.

by fwembt on Oct 5, 2007 12:06 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three:
I couldn't believe they were complaining about the media rooting against them. Saying that it's ALWAYS that way.. everyone gangs up on the poor, wittle Yankees.

 Lol-aughable.

by Toxicadam on Oct 5, 2007 12:15 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Indians 12, Yankees 3
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We need to finish this series as quick as possible before we have to suffer through Bruce fucking Froemming behind the plate again.

CC showed incredible poise tonight. 2005 CC would have completely lost his cool at some of those pitches that were called balls. Absolute bullshit strikezone tonight ... we were lucky that we had quality pitchers that had movement on their pitches within the small zone.

Wang wasn't so fortunate as he had to start his pitches higher just so they could drop into the small zone. It must have been baffling for Yankee fans to see so many high pitches from him. But what else was he going to do? He wasn't getting the called strike. The guy gave up 2 HR's to us in 4 innings after going 200 innings in the regular season and only giving up 9.

A pitcher like Byrd or Clemens would have absolutely gotten slaughtered tonight.

Sorry to be so down on a night that is one I will remember for the rest of my life. What a great way to get that stupid "0-6" monkey off of our back. Up 1 game with our true ACE pitching in Jacobs field tomorrow. Got to love our chances.

Props to Wedge for bringing in the Circle of Trust (Raffies and Lewis). Stepping on their necks while they are down. It's been a hallmark of 2007 Wedge down the stretch. Leave nothing to chance.

by Toxicadam on Oct 5, 2007 12:26 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Indians 12, Yankees 3
Wedge mentioned in the postgame conference that the Raffy's needed some work. With the day of rest, there is no harm in throwing them. It is a great of demoralizing them. Over on PA they were talking about how much confidence they would have if they scored a couple runs off of them. Well, they didn't and they can get used to a steady dose of them.
Dealing with it.

by fwembt on Oct 5, 2007 12:39 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Indians 12, Yankees 3
After initially being an idiot and thinking they would be overworked, I'm thrilled by the fact that Wedge can pitch these guys EVERY game if he wants to...for five innings, if the starters go bad...we are unstoppable.

by Voltaire on Oct 5, 2007 12:42 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree with you completely about the strike zone!
Hello Toxicadam,

Agreed on the strike zone - Froemming's strike zone was "annoying" to say the least; he wasn't consistent, expanding it later on in the game, but earlier on, it was the size of a thimble.

When Sabathia, who didn't walk 40 guys all season in over 200 IP and only walked 6 guys in all of September, walked 6 tonight in 5 IP, you know something is likely up with the strike zone.  Sure, he was excited, and he did look like he was overthrowing a bit, especially in the first inning or two, but several of those pitches toward that outside corner would have been called strikes by several other umpires.  For whatever reason, Froemming didn't.  

Wang also struggled with his command, having walked only 59 in 199.1 IP, yet he walked 4 tonight in less than 5 IP, so I think it's reasonable to conclude that Froemming's strike zone DID play a part in their lack of command, along with the fact the adrenaline was up for both pitchers and the fact that both, I believe, had extra rest.

So far in this postseason, many of the umpires' strike zones have been questionable in my opinion - it seems they've either been very tight like Froemming's or they've been too lenient, calling pitches that are several inches off of the corner.  

Personally, I'm not that fond of TBS' PitchTrax - I take it the inner box is the strike zone and the outer box is the area inbetween the 2 batters' boxes?  If so, I don't know how PitchTrax charts some of those pitches - some appear to be well outside of the strike zone when they look to be borderline or so on PitchTrax.  Plus, the TBS announcers seem to not have it on their screens or ignore it when they talk about pitches being strikes or not, as they'll say a pitch is outside, yet PitchTrax charts it as being on the inner-box line, which would signal a strike.

I also agree that CC's poise was very important tonight, and something he likely wouldn't have shown the last time he faced the Yankees (2004) or earlier.  Despite his mediocre line, his pitching tonight was a main key to us winning Game 1 - if he can't finish the 5th inning and/or he gives up the lead right there, who knows what happens after that.  Granted, Wang may still have given up those runs anyway, but it certainly was advantageous for us to stay out in front of them and not allow them to tie it up or take the lead.  That just gave us extra momentum against Wang in the bottom half, which we fortunately took advantage of.  Sabathia's ability to get through the 1st inning with just the disputed HR was another testament to CC's poise, and fortunately, the Indians came back right away against Wang in the bottom half to score 3 - those are great signs for this team to go far in October if they can keep doing little things like that (minimize damage and score right away in response to their scoring.)

Hopefully, we won't have to deal with Bruce Froemming's strike zone again this postseason and we can keep the winning going!  :-)

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Oct 5, 2007 2:07 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
Could LeBron be more of a tool?
"You're boring. I don't mean preseason football boring. I mean Nascar on the radio boring." - P.M

by crazymoloh on Oct 5, 2007 12:54 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
Froemming's strike zone wasn't tight...I watch a ton of games, and I would say that he actually expanded the strike zone off the plate after the second inning...but I didn't think he squeezed anybody. And generally speaking, he is more of a pitcher's umpire.

CC narrowly missed quite often. Plus, for some reason he decided to pitch differently than he has all year. Tonight, he was the pre 2005-AS break pitcher. He usually takes a couple miles off the fastball and sits at 91-93...but tonight he was 95-96 all night long. And his command suffered for it. Also, again for some unknown reason, he only threw a half-dozen changeups (maybe).

The Yankees are amazingly disciplined, and that was a factor as well, but CC pitched very differently than he had all year. If there is a Game 5, I suggest he rethink what he did tonight and go back to what made him a possible Cy Young winner. It's tough to walk 6 guys in five innings and prevent all of them from scoring.

But, positively speaking, how about all those great AB's everyone put up? Wang was terrible, but there were a lot of great AB's.

by TribeJay on Oct 5, 2007 1:07 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three:
I'll respectfully disagree and say that Froemming was squeezing a bit tonight. I think his strike zone hurt both pitchers. More than the squeezing, it was his lack of consistency on the outer edge that seemed to be frustrating both teams. He was pretty shake out there.

CC said in the postgame interview that he was trying to take something off of the fastball and sit where he had all year but that he was too "excited" to do so. He said his command kept him from locating the offspeed stuff so he was forced to rely on the fastball, which he was having a hard time keeping down in a range he was comfortable with.

Dealing with it.

by fwembt on Oct 5, 2007 1:27 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three:
Thanks for the info on CC.  That makes sense based on what I saw last night.

by TribeJay on Oct 5, 2007 8:39 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
This is from the AP article:

Not only did Sabathia, who entered 1-7 with a 7.13 ERA in his career against New York, have to deal with New York's awesome lineup, but plate umpire Bruce Froemming's strike zone was paper thin for the left-hander, who battled through 114 pitches, allowing three runs and four hits in five innings.

How many times in your life have you seen an AP article mention the umpires strikezone?!?

by Toxicadam on Oct 5, 2007 1:36 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
Ahhh, you got me. If it's an opinion given in the AP article, it must be right.

Look, if you think the umpire should give an inch or two off the plate, then you're right...but if it's off the plate, then I think it should be a ball. And I think most all of those were off the plate. Period.

I'm sure CC felt he got squeezed some, because many umpires will give that extra inch or two. Your opinion is that he got squeezed. That's fine. My opinion was that those balls were off the plate.

We can all agree that if this was 1995 and CC had an Alanta Brave uniform on, those would have absolutely been called strikes...with margin for error!

by TribeJay on Oct 5, 2007 8:43 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
I was at the game in LF... amazing.  Freaking amazing.  I already called off work for tomorrow, I have no voice at all.  That place hasn't been that much fun in a long time.  Hopefully it continues tomorrow!

by Fundamentals on Oct 5, 2007 1:11 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
I believe that if Cabrera, Hafner, Vmart and Garko had more playoff experience (outside of the experience the gain from having Nixon on the bench), they would have hit those home runs much further.

by tyler083 on Oct 5, 2007 1:27 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
.... and they would have trotted the bases in a way that would let the home run count for twice the amount it normally does.
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by crazymoloh on Oct 5, 2007 1:52 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
I think I've listened to "Cleveland Rocks" and "Tribe Time" 20K each.

by Voltaire on Oct 5, 2007 1:45 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
How is that even possible?
Will children still wake up early to eagerly check the sports page to see who is leading the league in holds?

by smtp on Oct 5, 2007 10:37 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
Again, how is that even possible?

I'm asking because of course I think these songs are terrible.

Will children still wake up early to eagerly check the sports page to see who is leading the league in holds?

by smtp on Oct 5, 2007 1:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
Can we get this guy banned?
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Oct 5, 2007 1:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
Why should I be banned?
Will children still wake up early to eagerly check the sports page to see who is leading the league in holds?

by smtp on Oct 5, 2007 5:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
I'm not a guy, by the way.
Will children still wake up early to eagerly check the sports page to see who is leading the league in holds?

by smtp on Oct 5, 2007 5:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
Oh no, I meant 20K. I said "I think I've..." My brain hasn't really been working since the 7th or 8th run last night.

by Voltaire on Oct 5, 2007 3:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three
Just got back to Columbus from the game (thanks Mario for hooking me up with tickets).  What a great atmosphere - reminded me of an OSU-Michigan game.  My throat still hurts from screaming all game.

Time to hit the sack now...I have to teach in 5 1/2 hours!

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 5, 2007 2:05 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three:
I listened at work and am watching the highlights on mlb right now. What a great feeling! I am also utterly torn in half between wishing this series over ASAP or hoping it goes the full five (which will offer us perhaps our last chance to catch a game before we get priced right out of the park).
--
"Charlie, here comes the deuce. And when you speak of me, speak well."

by vbc3 on Oct 5, 2007 2:37 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Indians 12, Yankees 3
Wow great game, just finished watching it, still as hyped as I was following it at work. Even better news tomorrow's game is live on TV here in NZ. It's 11.20pm, time for sleep if that is possible, wake up and Game 2 at 10am tomorrow. Go Tribe

by new zealand tribe fan on Oct 5, 2007 6:21 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three
I was there on the first base side (hooray for our group season ticket plan).  Sat next to two Yankees fans and in front of two more.  Decent people all, if a little unnerving.  Only made me cheer louder.

Tough to tell about the strike zone from where I sat, although I can definitely say that C.C. was overthrowing.  Hopefully, he got that out of his system.

I was vocally against using the C.O.T., but as my dad said, "this is the playoffs, you TAKE every game."  Speaking of, can we start using "BRING OUT THE COT!"?  You know, like "going to the matresses"?

When I was little, we had this video called "Super Sunday".  It was an NFL Films video (in the classic tradition) about the first 30 or so Super Bowls and I watched it constantly.  I think it was during the Raiders 1980 victory, one of the players is on the sideline delivering a quote that I couldn't help but think to myself over and over again last night:

"They came to see an offense and the wrong one showed up!"

Time for two more.

by painaxl on Oct 5, 2007 6:32 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
Great game.  Felt so sweet.  But 1-0 is the key score now, not 12-3.  And Pettite is more scary to me than Wang -- though Fausto should scare the Yankees more than CC, and the Raffies plus Lewis should scare them more than either one.  So now let's take care of business before we have to put Byrd in front of the Yankees.

Worst TV moment: no replay on the Johnny Damon first-inning foul ball or home run (& they cite this as an argument for using instant replays to check the umps?  if there's no decent camera, it's not!).

Best TV moment: when their mikes caught our manager's "argument" on that home-run call and the ump addressed him as "Wedgie".  Given all the abuse he gets here, I could not believe I had not heard him called that before.

by sullidav on Oct 5, 2007 6:32 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three
Oh, and I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Since he doesn't play baseball, I could care less who LeBron roots for.  If LeBron wears a Knicks hat, then it's time to panic (and boy, will I).

by painaxl on Oct 5, 2007 6:34 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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It's OK painaxl - I still love you.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Oct 5, 2007 6:54 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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You see?  That's what LGT is about.  The love!

by painaxl on Oct 5, 2007 6:56 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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You too Julio - you too.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Oct 5, 2007 11:48 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Just spicing things up for our possible meeting. I'll be the guy in the wine & gold. j/k

by JulioBernazard on Oct 5, 2007 12:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Indians 12, Yankees 3
No time to drop the intensity - we gotta win two more.

Our Ace of Diamonds got it done - in none exactly CC fashion - now it's time for our Ace of Hearts to do his thing.  

Gotta like Fausto in this one, but Pettit can still turn it on.  Still the way our boys have been rakin' I almost feel sorry for those mamalukes, if they weren't the most despised franchise in all of sport.

OK, I got the Tribe by three tonight.  Let's get our game faces on so we can levitate a coupla would-be warning track shots over the fence.

Go Tribe!

LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Oct 5, 2007 7:34 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Indians 12, Yankees 3
Honestly, I think Fausto is the Ace of Spades.  He can dig holes with that sinker.

:)

When bunting is a crime, only criminals will bunt.

by BostonWahoo on Oct 5, 2007 8:51 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Indians 12, Yankees 3
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Oct 5, 2007 12:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Indians 12, Yankees 3

Chazz: Who'd win in a wrestling match, Lemmy or God?
Chris Moore: Lemmy.

Chris Moore: ... God?

Rex: Wrong, dickhead, trick question. Lemmy "IS" God.

by hans on Oct 5, 2007 1:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pie Chart!
Check this out:

On the front page of the Plain Dealer, they've arranged a "pie chart" for each game.  They're using five toddlers, and the one for game three is my nephew!

The PD has done a very cool promotion, allowing parents to bring their kids in and get "pied."  I've got awesome pics of my two nephews with whip cream all over their faces -- but I didn't know one would end up on the front page!

by tabler84 on Oct 5, 2007 7:45 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Bushy-tailed: 1, Steely-eyed: 0.

I think it was a little annoying that for the last four innings all the TBS guys could talk about was that, "Well, Pettitte (heavenly choir) is going tomorrow," yet when a graphic actually ran a stat line of the Game 2 starters, they had nothing to say.

by nickjs21 on Oct 5, 2007 7:51 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
I have two meetings this morning and no time to read through 1500+ posts over 3 threads.  So can someone tell me this...

Does anyone know what the deal was with the old dude sitting 1st row, 1B side, wearing different colored neon hats almost every inning?  I counted 7.

GO TRIBE.

by rolub on Oct 5, 2007 8:09 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
If you were really counting you would have noticed nine different hats. He's had season tickets for a while now.

And if you are paying attention tonight you'll also notice he wears them in the same order every game he goes to.

by NatiTribeFan on Oct 5, 2007 8:40 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
I was really counting.  Name the 9.

I saw no hat, neon pink hat (with wahoo), neon orange hat, neon green hat, neon yellow hat (at which point i was blaming for CC's struggles in the 5th), neonish red hat, mustard  yellow hat (with wahoo and red brim), and neonish blue hat to close out the game.

by rolub on Oct 5, 2007 8:52 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
Oh yeah, those two.  Every time you see them in that camera angle they look absolutely bored out of their skulls.
Will children still wake up early to eagerly check the sports page to see who is leading the league in holds?

by smtp on Oct 5, 2007 10:39 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One
Check out the NY Post headline from this morning. Maybe the most inappropriate headline I've ever read. Let's hope all of this ridiculous treatment of native Americans during our playoff run (the two guys shown on TBS wearing makeup and headdresses as well) doesn't come back to bite our franchise in the ass from the PCs.

by supermarioelia on Oct 5, 2007 8:13 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One
Life imitating art? Link

by UndeniableMagistrate on Oct 5, 2007 9:35 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One
I can't find it, what'd it say?
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Oct 5, 2007 12:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-
My favorite part from the announcers was their 5 minute diatribe on how baserunners don't work hard enough at getting a big lead off of first base. They were specifically pointing out Franklin's lead off of first, mentioning that his poor lead would prevent him from scoring from first on a ball in the gap. Franklin proceeded to score from first because he is fast.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 5, 2007 9:09 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-
I got so sick of the lead off crap.  These announcers are going to test my patience.
Will children still wake up early to eagerly check the sports page to see who is leading the league in holds?

by smtp on Oct 5, 2007 10:40 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
I could watch that all day.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Oct 5, 2007 9:40 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
Awesome.
Will children still wake up early to eagerly check the sports page to see who is leading the league in holds?

by smtp on Oct 5, 2007 10:41 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
What's stopping you?
-Erik, Appalachian State Alum, Class of 1996

by drerikbrady on Oct 5, 2007 3:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three
I'm just glad the Indians finally got the one thing that it takes to win any post-season game: post season experience.

by UndeniableMagistrate on Oct 5, 2007 9:33 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
I normally cannot wait for Friday at 5 PM, but its millions times worse today...

by Fundamentals on Oct 5, 2007 9:53 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
No kidding.  I'm going to try to get out of here at 4:30 so I don't miss much.
Will children still wake up early to eagerly check the sports page to see who is leading the league in holds?

by smtp on Oct 5, 2007 10:42 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
OT: Those of you who enjoyed our pictorial magic number countdown may enjoy this (warning: it runs 9:28):

by Fiddlesticks on Oct 5, 2007 12:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three:
Nice job, Zempf.  

How beautiful did Jacobs' Field look last night? What a scene.  So many memories. It's aging well, don't ya think? It's well on the way to becoming sacred baseball terrain, like Wrigley, Fenway, etc.  

by homelytourist on Oct 5, 2007 12:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three:
Really think so? That would be great.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Oct 5, 2007 1:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three:
I think it's a classic.  A very appealing, elegant, inspired design.  The unique trusses of the facade make it regionally specific in a good way, not as a caricature of an industrial yesteryear.  And the background scene is awesome.
Then there's all that glorious history.  Yeah, I think it's a pretty significant monument.  The Gund and the Browns stadium are nice but just ok--butthe Jake is the place.  

by homelytourist on Oct 5, 2007 1:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three:
if you post it on every team's board, there is a chance that someone will find it funny. apparently not the lone yankee fan that decided to comment on it

by Roger Dorn on Oct 5, 2007 1:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
Love the lone yankee fan's tagline:

I always feel pressure. What I don't have is fear. -- El Duque

by Thommy on Oct 5, 2007 1:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three:
I am ready to retire Lofton's number after last night

by Roger Dorn on Oct 5, 2007 12:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
what lineups are we expecting today, from both teams? Giambi at first for NY maybe? For us, just J-Mike in for Lofton?

by ASP on Oct 5, 2007 1:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
i would assume we see the giambino today.... im still trying to figure why minkiewitz was in the ilneup yesterday. It's not like great defense at first base is much different than mediocre defense at first base. Plus they were facing a tough lefty. Doesnt really make any sense to me.

On a side note I think its hilarious that the cameraman that crashed into him yesterday is from cleveland. And he is no longer employed by YES.

by The Animal on Oct 5, 2007 1:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
maybe it's just my browser, but atop the graph there's a shaded box with some text in it. Is it supposed to be a graphic?

by ASP on Oct 5, 2007 1:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Indians 12, Yankees 3
For lack of a better place to put this, did anyone catch this gem from ESPN today?

This date in history:

"1997: Beating Mariano

The Yankees are faced with a must-win situation Friday and will likely
call on Mariano Rivera a little earlier than usual if needed. But the
memories for Rivera from this date are not all good. Friday marks the
10th anniversary of Game 4 of the 1997 ALDS when, with the Yankees on
the verge of clinching the series, Sandy Alomar Jr. hit an
eighth-inning, game-tying home run off Rivera. Omar Vizquel won the
game with a walk-off hit in the ninth, evening the series at two. The
Indians then won Game 5 the next day (beating 2007 Game 2 starter Andy
Pettitte) to take the series."

Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Oct 5, 2007 1:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Indians 12, Yankees 3
Wow, goosebumps.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 5, 2007 3:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sleeping Giant Wakes Up (again)
First post but read frequently; stuck at work and figured I'd make an account.

Was at Panini's on Prospect last night.  Packed before the game but you could breathe once it started.  The Girl got there before I did and saw a guy wearing a Yankees jersey receive a beer shower, which escalated into a street scuffle.

My Kenny Lofton jersey, which until July had been collecting dust in my closet for almost a decade, was well received!

Later, I saw Winston Bell of brief ESPN "Dream Job" fame, who was in the bar all night and very into the game.  Didn't talk to the man but if you know who he is, you'd recognize him instantly.

The crowd at the stadium and elsewhere downtown was electric.  I caught a bit of the Cubs/D-Backs game when I got home and it sounded like their fans were at a funeral compared to ours (not even sold out?  How does that happen--I guess ask Atlanta).

Who else is glad Westbrook didn't have to deal with that strike zone?  If Carmona wins tonight, I really think we could sweep...otherwise it's probably going to be a five-game dogfight.

by timebonus on Oct 5, 2007 2:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12,
watched the game last night in an UWS bar packed with yankee fans.  after hafner's home run in the 6th, as the game got completely out of hand, my drunken cleveland friend (and sometime lgt poster cory snyder) stood up and started bellowing "IS IT JOBA TIME?  BRING IN JOBA!"

best moment of my evening.  

by emil minty on Oct 5, 2007 2:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12,
Lol!  That's great.  UWS...Wisconsin?

by timebonus on Oct 5, 2007 2:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12,
upper-west-side of manhattan (new yorkers just assume the rest of the country is familiar with our neighborhoods).

by emil minty on Oct 5, 2007 3:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
Is it taking it too far if I refuse to shower on game days?
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 5, 2007 2:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
(I didn't shower yesterday, so I'm wondering if I should avoid doing so again today.)
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 5, 2007 2:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
Not at all...I'm not washing my Lofton jersey until the playoffs are over...which is hopefully a month from now.

by timebonus on Oct 5, 2007 2:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
I'm wearing my same lucky Tribe shirt as yesterday. I didn't go out in it today, but put it back on when I got home.

by ASP on Oct 5, 2007 2:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
I wore an Indians shirt underneath a button-up to work today, and will put my Hafner jersey on over it when I get home. That half-hour Metro ride between 5:30 and 6:00 is going to kill me today.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Oct 5, 2007 2:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
Wearing the same shirt to the game tonight that I wore last night. In about seven hours I think we'll all see that it was worth it.

by osoc13 on Oct 5, 2007 2:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game One Hundred Sixty-Three: Indians 12, Yank
My boss was out of town yesterday so I was able to duck home early to catch the game (we're 4 hours behind up here.) Alas, boss is back in town, there is stuff to do today at work, and the game starts at 1 pm. It's going to be Hammy on the computer for today's game. Go Tribe!

by JesseAK on Oct 5, 2007 3:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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