Vicious Rumors, Idle Speculation and Questionable Decision-Making
With a heading like that, it must be time for the trade deadline, the magical time of year when eight guys try to make twenty two guys look stupid.
Roundup of the day so far:
Dotel is still available according to most everywhere.
Gagne is rumored to Mets, Red Sox, Yankees, Brewers but he has a partial no-trade which includes the Indians and he wants to close. So discussion on him re: us can stop there.
Some new names you may not have heard:
"If anything were to happen, I'd imagine we'd be talking about a relatively minor RP trade."
So, with all that in mind, it seems that maybe the Indians will be significant players but more likely sit on the sidelines, sticking a toe in at an opportune time. So this thread is welcome to any and all teams, scenarios and so forth.
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by ASP on
Jul 31, 2007 11:26 AM EDT
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A backend with Wheeler/reyes, Betancourt and Perez is pretty enticing.
The problem is what the cost would be to pry Wheeler/reyes from TB. We'll see.
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Jul 31, 2007 11:40 AM EDT
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I'm pretty sure he and Garko played at Stanford together.
I think what Keri is calling a "minor reliever" is probably going to be a big deal to us, as fans of the team. Obviously, we're not going to go get Dunn today, but if we get somebody like Rauch or Damasao Marte, that's not minor in our world.
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Jul 31, 2007 11:29 AM EDT
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BP is pretty high on him. "He may not have Chris Young's upside, but he's the safer bet for a solid career."
I wish I had never heard this rumor. I'm going to be excited until 3 PM when it eventually doesn't happen.
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Jul 31, 2007 11:46 AM EDT
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Jul 31, 2007 11:56 AM EDT
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Mark, do this trade.
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Jul 31, 2007 11:58 AM EDT
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Jul 31, 2007 12:40 PM EDT
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Otherwise I agree that it would be more likely an offseason move for the Indians to get Quentin.
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Jul 31, 2007 1:35 PM EDT
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by world dictator on
Jul 31, 2007 2:12 PM EDT
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Does the quality of the two players not factor into your approval at all?
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Jul 31, 2007 2:25 PM EDT
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Jul 31, 2007 2:27 PM EDT
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Cardinals acquire Joel Piñeiro... which is weird that STL gave up anything for him, seeing that he was on waivers less than a week ago.
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Jul 31, 2007 11:30 AM EDT
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Also, I would enforce a one-year moratorium on FO complaints if we attained Carlos Quentin.
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Jul 31, 2007 11:31 AM EDT
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Jul 31, 2007 11:40 AM EDT
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Jul 31, 2007 11:41 AM EDT
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http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/Q/carlos-quentin.shtml
He's not a guy with a lot of potential, in my opinion. He's there, he's just in a slump. He's too old and too accomplished in the minors to not be able to hit at least league average right now, and he's likely to hit a lot better.
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This isn't a trade Shaprio is looking to make, but if, say, he was already on the phone with Arizona and they mentioned Quentin was available, I imagine Shapiro and Antonetti drooling and seeing what they could work out. It's not a deal they would pass up. As of right now however I think the only real priority is an arm.
Bill James saw him as a 25-HR guy.
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I think the Indians trade Lee straight up for Quentin purely because of contract status -- sure, what the hell? But he's unlikely (at 25) to blossom into an impact player. He's just got a little more of a projectable bat than Francisco.
You have to wonder if acquiring someone like this makes it easier to part with Gutierrez, given that some other team will value him as a CF -- Coco with an arm.
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Jul 31, 2007 12:54 PM EDT
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Jul 31, 2007 12:58 PM EDT
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Is that not basically Lee for Dotel?
And what would anyone think of that?
by Jay on
Jul 31, 2007 1:04 PM EDT
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Man I wish I knew how bad Lee's head problems are.
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Jul 31, 2007 1:05 PM EDT
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Jul 31, 2007 1:06 PM EDT
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My point was that if this was just on paper, I do it right away. I think Quentin basically is Gutz, with more projectable skills (plate discipline). I think Lee is done, his periphs are just bad.
However, it's hard to keep Gutz in context after you see him play. Sexy talent. You're afraid he's going to make you look stupid.
Whatever. Do it. He'd be on the Royals. How painful can it be?
Plus, everyone touting this age thing:
Gutz: 2/21/83
Quentin: 8/28/82
6 months. Meh.
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Jul 31, 2007 1:09 PM EDT
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Jul 31, 2007 2:22 PM EDT
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Also! I'm Gutz' fanboy #1.
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Jul 31, 2007 2:30 PM EDT
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Just seems like acquiring Quentin would be an unnecessary and circuitous way to get insurance for a Gutz trade -- do other teams value Gutz that highly?
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Jul 31, 2007 1:06 PM EDT
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Yes, he can play CF. That drives up his value.
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Jul 31, 2007 1:08 PM EDT
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Jul 31, 2007 1:28 PM EDT
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Which is more likely to pan out?
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Jul 31, 2007 2:20 PM EDT
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If we're so anxious to trade Cliff Lee then throw him in the mix for a reliever now, so that it will help...yes, now.
Don't get me wrong, I like Quentin, but he is now officially a continuing injury risk. I read somewhere that he still has to have shoulder surgery this offseason.
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Jul 31, 2007 1:37 PM EDT
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I think these two are a wash. Quentin is a better bat -- and a safer bet to eventually be a good hitter -- but Gutierrez has the better glove. Quentin is the better fit for the Indians, but Gutierrez in some ways is the safer trade chip for later. If his bat doesn't come out so good, someone is still going to want him to play CF.
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And if Lee's the price, again, I'd want to spend him for an immediate reward towards a playoff run.
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Jul 31, 2007 2:06 PM EDT
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In any case, its not acquiring Quentin I have the problem with. Like I said, I like him and he was one of the corner OF's I would have loved to acquire last winter (not that he was available, but he fit the bill). It's the turning around and trading Gutz at this point that I'd object to.
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He says Dotel is done but held up until the Teixera deal is completed-everyone must complete physicals. Also, he says Dayton might be taking a lower offer because he's familiar with Davies and believes he knows something the stats don't show.
Says Pirates price on Marte is high b/c he took a lower dollar deal. Implies Pittsburgh will again not trade anyone.
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I don't know what to think of that.
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Jul 31, 2007 12:44 PM EDT
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I have separate tabs at the top of my screen opened to this site, Jayson Stark's insider, MLB Trade Rumors, Ken Rosenthal, and Cleveland.com (for whatever reason). Every couple of minutes I refresh each one.
4 PM can't come quickly enough.
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I'd pick Percival up if the price was right.
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I would trade Goleski for nearly anything. I couldn't be more positive he's not a contributor.
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Real Estate Agent from Hawaii on show quote: "We're selling lifestyle here. This house is nice, but it's the lifestyle."
Going to the beach at 7:37 is lifestyle.
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Don't try to turn this on me rhetorically. The ridiculous convention of calling the stat "wins" makes it a challenge for me, but you still have no shot here.
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Plus, he can't play the field AT ALL.
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I'm really concerned with the Raffys getting overworked as this team makes its playoff push and tries to send out its best pitchers more often (the whole every game is important mentality).
I think an extra, reliable reliever is essential, if only for insurance purposes.
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What about Jewish fans? ; )
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Split? WTF?
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NOT.
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"Kyle Davies, Seriously?"
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How does he have time to do this if we're making a deal.
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/tries to convince self that nothing will happen
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I like Shapiro.
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Jul 31, 2007 2:16 PM EDT
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/07/31/gagne.redsox/index.html
Kinda weird, why would the best bullpen in the league go after such a pricy (in prospects, I mean) set-up guy? Maybe they'll prep Papelbon to start again?
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Interesting to see how this plays out, after Boston more or less won their stand-off with Boras in the Matsuzaka negotiations. This time, Boras is the one who can afford to just walk away.
On the other hand, if Boras holds up the deal, does that sour the relationship with his bitch, Tom Hicks?
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Not a bad thought but kind of overkill.
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$75,000 for 3 GF, $0.1M for 6 GF, $0.15M each for 10, 13 & 16 GF, $0.175M for 20, 23 & 26 GF, $0.2M each for 30, 33 & 36 GF, $0.25M each for 40, 43 & 46 GF, $0.5M each for 50, 53 & 56 GF, $0.333M each for 60 & 63 GF, $0.334M for 66 GF
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With a fairly torn-up rotation, it's not a bad idea for them to try to shorten the game to five or six innings.
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Jul 31, 2007 2:32 PM EDT
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Dubious about taking pitchers from NL.
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And no, that's not batting practice. We have plenty of those to go around it seems.(Mastny, FCab)
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Jul 31, 2007 2:22 PM EDT
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I've always favored JoeBlow, but he hasn't lived up to his name enough this year. (Thank God)
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I love that you can use edited rosters online. With me being a stickler for updated rosters, I was playing my friend one night and I had Kenny Lofton AND Octavio Dotel on my roster. May have jumped the gun on that second move there.
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And to stay on topic, I don't think a deal is going to get done for a reliever.
Texas is tied up, Dotel is gone, and I haven't seen a blurb on Percival all day. I think something would have been announced by now. I also hope I'm wrong in an hour or so...
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Fact: I own a Winnipeg Jets hooded sweatshirt.
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I mentioned online play before via GENS, and here's a great website for all things NHL94 for either Genesis or SNES: http://www.nhl94.com
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BTW...Barfield becomes the best 2B in the league by 2010 in franchise mode. 34 HR and 140 RBI in the last season I played.
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Warning, it's a deep league and there isn't much to go around on the waiver wire.
Scott Podsednik
Jay Gibbons
Joey Gathright (AAA, but could be called up if Royals move either E.Brown or Sanders)
Jason Tyner
Josh Wilson (TB)
Ben Zobrist
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Shap: Hey Brian, I'll give you Francisco and Miller for A-Rod.
Ca$hman: No.
I mean, how formal/informal are the conversations between GMs?
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The way Phillips talks, I just can't imagine him being on the phone with 5+ GMs trying to finish off a deadline deal. He'd never be able to keep the names (players or GMs) straight.
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