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Game Thread: August 21, 2007

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Cleveland at Detroit, 7:05 PM (STO)

Starting Pitchers:

Cleveland: Fausto Carmona (159.2 IP, 3.16 ERA, 81 PRC)
Detroit: Jair Jurrjens (7.0 IP, 5.14 ERA, 2 PRC)

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Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
K. Lofton lf
C. Blake 3b
G. Sizemore cf
V. Martinez c  
T. Hafner dh
R. Garko 1b
T. Nixon rf
J. Peralta ss
A. Cabrera 2b

C. Granderson cf  
P. Polanco 2b
G. Sheffield dh
M. Ordonez rf
C. Guillen ss  
I. Rodriguez c  
S. Casey 1b  
M. Thames lf
R. Raburn 3b

Gutz not in the lineup despite his HR last time out against Mr. Soap.

by supermarioelia on Aug 21, 2007 6:32 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
I know Peralta has been struggling lately, but putting him behind Nixon?  That's harsh!

by Buckeye Brad on Aug 21, 2007 6:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
what exactly does blake hitting 2nd do for this lineup?  i think the better lineup is: Lofton, Grady, Vic, Garko, Hafner, Peralta, Gutz/Nixon/Blake hitting 7-8, Cabrera
But what do I know.  I just look at the move of Sizemore to 3rd while keeping Blake 2nd as a way of taking at bats away from Grady and giving them to Casey

by mpstable on Aug 21, 2007 7:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
So...is AstroCab the new 2b? Barfield hasn't started in a while.

Go Tribe!

by obobcatu on Aug 21, 2007 6:35 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
Barf's indefinitely benched, with Gomez and Droob getting his starts. Dunno how long that's going to keep up, though.
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by AngG on Aug 21, 2007 6:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
I say as long as AstroCab's able to outhit Barf, might as well give him the job.

by zempf on Aug 21, 2007 6:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
yeah I totally agree with letting AstroCab play a lot after seeing how he's played so far. But, are they just giving up on Barf now? Maybe he's the guy who is getting shipped out when we need a 5th starter.

by obobcatu on Aug 21, 2007 6:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
2B-men are a weak lot, probably the weakest hitters by position these days, but Barf's hitting declined to a level where I think Rouse might very well be his equal given similar chances.  I can't believe how bad he was.  AstroCab seems like a good bet to at match or improve upon Barfield's showing, and his glove is superior to Josh's as well.  

I don't know what to make of Barfield just yet.  I find his collapse and pending demotion to be the most surprising event of this season.

by homelytourist on Aug 21, 2007 6:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
How soon we forget how bad Rouse was.  As bad as Barfield was, and as small as the sample was for Rouse, it nonetheless is highly unlikely that Rouse could outhit Barfield.  You might want to take a look at their prior track records if you doubt this.  There's no reason to think Rouse will ever do what Barfield did post-Break in 2006.

Also!  Barfield's benching, like Marte's demotion, is more opportunistic than anything.  If AstroCab had not made himself an option, I expect Josh would be sharing starts with Gomez.

by Jay on Aug 21, 2007 6:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
Ok, similar adjectives apply to both Rouse and Barfield but the numbers do seperate them a little.

Let's see, Josh:
K rate up.  ISO discipline and power (!) down. The trendline looks a lot like Kaz Matsui's, albeit without the league change.

The lynchpin is plate discipline.  If he restores what he's back in business as a league average 2B.  Tony Womack with fewer SB.

Not sure wht a RHH like Barfield would share starts with a RHH like Gomez, but I'll take your word for it.

by homelytourist on Aug 21, 2007 7:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
with league change*

by homelytourist on Aug 21, 2007 7:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
and by a little I mean a lot, or some quantity in between a little and a lot.

by homelytourist on Aug 21, 2007 7:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
By the way, are they a superstitious, cowardly lot, or just a weak lot?

by Jay on Aug 21, 2007 7:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
don't read that! read this!
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by AngG on Aug 21, 2007 7:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
It's like they're a sub-union, and Astro-Cab's A Scab.

Like Batman in that scene, Barfield needs to get inspired.  

by homelytourist on Aug 21, 2007 7:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
oh, batfield.
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by AngG on Aug 21, 2007 7:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
whoa, apropos

by homelytourist on Aug 21, 2007 7:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
indeed. (although i admit, the j-mike one makes me laugh hardest.)
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by AngG on Aug 21, 2007 7:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
Nixonrine has to be the biggest stretch around. They should've used C&O's photoshop of Nixon and Dellucci.

by supermarioelia on Aug 21, 2007 7:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
what are you talking about? wolverine would totally pie a dude in the face.
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by AngG on Aug 21, 2007 7:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
i know replying to myself is bad form, but ever since i said this i'm like "man, that would have made the phoenix saga about a gajillion times even awesomer. more pies to the face." this is why i am banned from... pretty much everything ever.
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by AngG on Aug 21, 2007 8:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
Man, I could really go for another round of icy, cold Fausto's tonight.
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 21, 2007 6:50 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
wow. anderson and pawlowski are on location for this indians on-deck. gettin' fancy there, kids.

(in other news, is it ever going to stop raining? i would like to someday be able to drive down my road again.)

and indians on-deck says laffey's getting the saturday start.

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by AngG on Aug 21, 2007 6:57 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
You can't drive in the rain? Or do you mean that it's so bad that there's standing water on the roads?  I think it's the latter.
I heard that L.Carr is only going to dress 25 players this Sat........the rest can dress themselves!

by gahnki on Aug 21, 2007 7:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
the latter. a lot of streets out here have been impassable due to standing water today, up to and including a few miles of I-75. :\
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by AngG on Aug 21, 2007 7:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
In so many words, Rod Allen: "The Indians suck".

by ASP on Aug 21, 2007 7:03 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
and V-Mart played right field the last time Jurrjens pitched.

by ASP on Aug 21, 2007 7:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
Haha Rod Allen has already put Purcello in the starting five.

by supermarioelia on Aug 21, 2007 7:10 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
"Grady will be able to do what Grady does best and that is let it all hang out."

Oh my Rod Allen, oh my.

by supermarioelia on Aug 21, 2007 7:11 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT KENNY????
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 21, 2007 7:13 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
Not cool Kenny.

On a lighter note....

"Well, nice to meet you, Jair Jurrjens, from Kneurgen, near the Joergen Fjords. Hmm. Kneurgen, that's in the Klargen Province, near the Biburgen River."

by supermarioelia on Aug 21, 2007 7:15 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
word?
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 21, 2007 7:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
I can't decide who's worse between Hawk Harrelson & Rod Allen. Harrelson has his annoying catchphrases & stupid accent, but Allen seems to somehow not know anything about anything.

by zempf on Aug 21, 2007 7:18 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
Love me some cold Faust

by ASP on Aug 21, 2007 7:20 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
Adam Miller pitched another perfect inning today. A strikeout to go with it as well.
The poster formerly known as JRam.

by Joe on Aug 21, 2007 7:20 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
I'll take eight more quick, cold Fautos Please!

by JK in CBus on Aug 21, 2007 7:21 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
Vic could not have taken any more time getting to 1st there.

by supermarioelia on Aug 21, 2007 7:23 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
Fausto, just no-hit these guys.

by nickjs21 on Aug 21, 2007 7:23 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
Finally back home with a real internet connection (and cable).  This will be the first game I've watched since early June.

by CU Adam on Aug 21, 2007 7:25 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
Well, lets hope the Indians hit like they did when you stopped watching.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 21, 2007 7:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
It'd be nice.  I've gotten pretty sick of seeing "In play, out(s) recorded" over and over again on Gamecast.

by CU Adam on Aug 21, 2007 7:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
Fausto with 19 pitches through 2, has yet to break a sweat. He is considering jogging in place in the dugout so that he feels like he really is getting a workout.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 21, 2007 7:32 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
we ain't exactly taking Jurrjents, tho.

by JulioBernazard on Aug 21, 2007 7:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
Gamecast shows that ball Buzz hit as fairly deep to left; was it?
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 21, 2007 7:36 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
Yeah it was fairly deep I'd say.

by supermarioelia on Aug 21, 2007 7:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
Yep. Fairly.
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by Joe on Aug 21, 2007 7:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
Cabrera seems to hit a bunch of balls in the outfield. I like.
The poster formerly known as JRam.

by Joe on Aug 21, 2007 7:37 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
They keep calling Carmona Cabrera.
Tribe fan from far, far away

by LGT Patrick on Aug 21, 2007 7:42 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
ada boi fausto
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 21, 2007 7:44 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
That is one ice-cold Fausto on the mound tonight.

by supermarioelia on Aug 21, 2007 7:44 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
You think someone stole all the indians bats are replaced them with styrofoam?
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 21, 2007 7:48 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
Jurrgens for Cy Young

by ASP on Aug 21, 2007 7:48 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
Yikes. No-hitting detroit might not cut it.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 21, 2007 7:52 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
The AKRON F'NG AEROS had 10 baserunners off Jurrjens in 5.2 IP on July 2nd. We've reached an unthinkable new low.

by supermarioelia on Aug 21, 2007 7:52 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
wow, that's amazing

by homelytourist on Aug 21, 2007 7:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
Meh. That doesn't mean too much.
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by Joe on Aug 21, 2007 7:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
Jurrgens is going thru our lineup like a hot knife thru butter. Wedge should just tell everybody to choke up two inches on the bat like they do in little league.

Fausto looks unhittable as well.

by mcrose on Aug 21, 2007 7:54 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
Choke up? Egads man! Surely you aren't interested in making contact or anything!
Turf Toe -- Sports skewered weakly (and weekly.)

by emd2k3 on Aug 21, 2007 7:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
There was a story recently in BA about a AA coach that made his whole team do that when they were in a funk and K'ing a lot, and it really helped a few guys. Colby Rasmus went on a freaking tear.

by mcrose on Aug 21, 2007 8:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
The one positive I'm drawing out of this so far is that I'd rather have the no-hit ground ball pitcher than the no-hit flyball pitcher.

by supermarioelia on Aug 21, 2007 7:54 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
True but he's not normally a flyball pitcher.
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by Joe on Aug 21, 2007 7:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
HUSH. EVERYONE HUSH. Jinx Jurrens but MAKE NO MENTION of Fausto. Or I will blame it on all of you.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 21, 2007 7:55 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
DAYUM!
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 21, 2007 7:58 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
man, fausto. i am so fond of you.
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by AngG on Aug 21, 2007 7:59 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
if got a fever.....and the only perscription....is more fausto
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 21, 2007 7:59 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
WAS THAT A CURVEBALL?
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by Joe on Aug 21, 2007 7:59 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
??!!!??!!!
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by Joe on Aug 21, 2007 7:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
btw, they are making contact.....just not good contact.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 21, 2007 8:00 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
Jinxes be damned, you can blame me if you want.  Fausto is just unhittable.

by nickjs21 on Aug 21, 2007 8:00 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
Gary Sheffield wears Fausto Carmona pajamas to bed.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 21, 2007 8:00 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: August 21, 2007
boo, raburn. :O
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by AngG on Aug 21, 2007 8:01 PM EDT   0 recs