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Game Thread: August 23, 2007

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Cleveland at Detroit, 1:05 (STO)

Starting Pitchers:

Cleveland: Jake Westbrook (100.1 IP, 4.75 ERA, 35 PRC)
Detroit: Nate Robertson (123.1 IP, 5.13 ERA, 43 PRC)

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Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Lineups

CF Sizemore
3B Blake
C  Martinez
DH Hafner
1B Garko
SS Peralta
RF Gutierrez
LF Michaels
2B Gomez

CF Granderson
2B Polanco
DH Casey
RF Ordonez
1B Guillen
LF Thames
C  Rabelo
3B Inge
SS Santiago

It's time for an Indians matinee . . . and soup kitchens around the country, and perhaps even the world, are experiencing a subtle increase in sales . . . .

by mplswahoo on Aug 23, 2007 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
subtle, but real....

RUBBER MATCH ALARM!!!

by APV on Aug 23, 2007 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Okay, I'm going to join the chorus ... wtf is with not putting Gootz in that two spot.  There's no defending Wedge when he goes against common sense, the numbers and conventional wisdom all in one shot.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2007 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
How about some Schwetty Balls while we're at it?

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
This is a ballgame, Schwetty weiners would be more appropriate.
-Erik

by drerikbrady on Aug 23, 2007 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Can you give me the numbers that go along with the common sense and conventional wisdom? I agree with the chorus but don't know the exact numbers.

by Bake McBride on Aug 23, 2007 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Maybe because he didn't want to put two people back to back that strike out a lot (Sizemore/Gootz)?

That's all I got.

by Toxicadam on Aug 23, 2007 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Underwood and Manning are wearing matching blazers and red mock turtles today.  Not only do they always match, but they never seem to repeat a costume.  I'm waiting for matching white tie and tails, or Tarzan leopard skins, or clown suits with red noses.

by Fiddlesticks on Aug 23, 2007 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Big game today in the standings.  A win puts us 2.5 games up, and we play the Royals while they play the Yankees.  A chance for us to open up a nice little cushion by next week.

by Buckeye Brad on Aug 23, 2007 12:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Jake has a terrible record vs Detroit, here's hoping he turns it around today.

by mikebrowns26 on Aug 23, 2007 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
How did Ramon Vazquez go deep twice in that offensive melee the Rangers laid on the Orioles?

by Roger Dorn on Aug 23, 2007 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
All I know is that I traded Saltalamacchia in my fantasy league.. but we're on weekly transactions so it won't go through till Sunday. Hooray.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
i have michael young on my team and somehow he managed to not have an RBI in a game in which his team scored 30 runs. and he was in the 3 hole. amazing.

by fivekmd on Aug 23, 2007 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Sizemore's leading off the rest of the season apparently.  He's more comfortable there.

by APV on Aug 23, 2007 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
That's what Hamilton said on the pregame show

by APV on Aug 23, 2007 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Yeah, that's what they were saying on the radio.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Wow, that's super-contrary to his "I told Wedgie to put me anywhere" quote he had a week ago.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Hmm, Granderson with all three putouts there.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I'm smelling runs with our "speed lineup" this inning: Hafner, Garko, Peralta...

by APV on Aug 23, 2007 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
It's the run factory alright.

by Geese on Aug 23, 2007 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I'll take the credit for that negativity jinx

/shamed

by APV on Aug 23, 2007 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
haha. I'll take some of the blame.

by Geese on Aug 23, 2007 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I want a W for my B-day today... dooo eeet

by Geese on Aug 23, 2007 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Born today and already a Tribe fan and LGT user...impressive

by APV on Aug 23, 2007 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Indians was my first word about an hour ago.

by Geese on Aug 23, 2007 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Happy Birthday, Geese.  Today happens to be my birthday too.  I'm going into my 43rd year of suffering with Cleveland sports teams!
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Ouch... Robinson more PRC than Westbrook. That doesn't seem possible. Jake has been reeling him in the last month though I'm sure.

by Geese on Aug 23, 2007 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
er Robertson. aka big ugly glasses guy.

by Geese on Aug 23, 2007 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
He's also outpitched him by 23 or so innings, so that could account for some of it.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Gomez kind of reminds me of McLovin from Super Bad.  

by cheech99 on Aug 23, 2007 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Pretty sad when Gomez has 2nd best BA going into the game ... I know I keeed, SSS and BA is not a good stat....

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
well... where is our offensive explosion?

by gte619n on Aug 23, 2007 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Good at bat for Gomez. I like the way he works with this teams dynamic, when the dynamic works.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Feh, Santiago continues to hit 1.0000.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Monroe traded for a PTBNL, aka nobody.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
More specifically, traded to the Cubs.  The Cubs?  Why would you want Monroe if you've got more outfielders than you can play already?
Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Aug 23, 2007 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I heard they are putting him in the bullpen.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I will say it again: Sean Casey, DH? Really?

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Wow, Jake. Way to go, Buddy. Didnt expect you to get out of that one unscathed.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
whew.  way to go Jakey.  stupid  busy day at work....

I'm off to get soup.

by Brick. on Aug 23, 2007 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
plenty of good cold soups out there.  gazpacho being probably the most common.

by Brick. on Aug 23, 2007 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Dodged the first bullet .... too bad our gun only has blanks in it so far.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
3 innings down, only 4 batters over the minimum between the teams (all on Tigers side btw) ...

Roberston 33 pitches, Jake 43 pitches ... could be another 2 hour game.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Casey bunting? really? wow guess Wedge really wants that first run

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Robertson is doing a pretty nice Jake Westbrook impersonation so far...

by APV on Aug 23, 2007 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
!@$#$@^#^@&#&@#&^*T$^&*T@$&^
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I love how bored/disgusted Hammy & Hegan sound when the Indians are playing poorly.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Yea, Hammy had "that voice" going after the first out of the game. LOL I think he is fed up.

by Toxicadam on Aug 23, 2007 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
And another 1-2-3 inning .. sort of... looks like we wasted all that offense last nite .... get ready for Zumaya and Rodney if they are needed (44 pitches in 4 innings)

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I'm not especially hungry, but I just put on some soup.

by APV on Aug 23, 2007 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I don't know who MLB's marketing guru is ... but he should be shot.

"actober" is even more meaningless than "who's now" ... even if it can never catch up in pure amounts of banality.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2007 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I think the use of Dane Cook as spokesman is what really puts it over the top for me. I hate that guy -- plus he says "baseball" to me about as much as Placido Polanco says "opera".

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Is that in "ace-tober"? Am watching from work on gamecast only.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
More like hack-tober ... a month full of FoxSports broadcasts.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2007 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I think i'd prefer Buzz/Gomez in the 2 hole. I know they dont really have the OBP, but they seem to make better contact than Casey. Thoughts?
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Jake continues to deal. Lets get him some runs already!
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
'If' we make the postseason, I am very very happy with a CC, Fausto, Jake 1-2-3 rotation.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
And Byrd is a really good #4 man for that matter, and you need that guy at least twice if not three times.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2007 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I'll also take Paul Byrd over 90% of teams #4 guys. (excepting only Anaheim, really)
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
that chapter in 'baseball between the numbers' about why billy beane's sh!t doesn't work in the playoffs scared me about bryd in the playoffs, as well as borowski...

by Brick. on Aug 23, 2007 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
What was the reasoning? Better pitching leads to more emphasis on hitting than taking pitches?
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
it talks about how throughout history guys that pitch to contact and are effective throughout the year tend to get taken advantage of against better hitting teams in the playoffs - see byrd's recent starts against detroit and new york.

regarding borowski it talks about teams with a dominant closer do better in the playoffs.

by Brick. on Aug 23, 2007 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Sighhhhhhhhhhhhh I hate how we let Robertson impersonate Cy Young against us.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
The good news is at this pace, there's no way Robertson makes it past the 10th or 11th innings

by APV on Aug 23, 2007 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Actually, at this rate, we can bypass Zumaya and Rodney and go straight to Jones, who we actually have some success against.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
The secret to beating us: pitch your +5.00 ERA pitchers.

by Toxicadam on Aug 23, 2007 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Robertson is now under 5, so we should be due to bring him back over the plateau.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Hummm, a successful bunt.  Wedge were you watching that?
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Nevermind - thanks Gutz
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
GUTZ! I love hearing the crowd starting to roar & then everyone shuts up. So nice.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Do I need to say it?

C-O-W-B-E-L-L-!

by APV on Aug 23, 2007 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I'm not watching, but the way Hammy called that, Gutz's catch sounded awesome.
That is the reason you don't trot Nixon out there, especially at a park with as big an OF as Comerica

by mpstable on Aug 23, 2007 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
That was the most nonchalant pun i've ever seen "You don't 'trot' nixon out there"
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Then he would have high-fived his buddy and said "this Playstation rocks!"

by APV on Aug 23, 2007 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Wooooot! Nice hose, Gutz!

Now someone explain what happened there, plz. Watching gamecast.

God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
The ball was crushed to the wall. Gutz made a really nice catch on it and doubled the guy off 2nd. It wasn't THAT hard of a catch, but he was just really well positioned.

by gte619n on Aug 23, 2007 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Hey, and look who gets to lead off the inning too.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Nate "Cy" Robertson at it again .... sheesh.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Hammy now squarely on the Gutz bandwagon as well . . . Wedge typically isn't much further behind . . . .

by mplswahoo on Aug 23, 2007 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Seems like a really long time since Jmike has done....anything. Last thing I remember was in Philly.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
last thing i remember was a game-turning 3 run homer against oakland in an afternoon game.  i think that was like a week before the ASB.  other than that, lotsa garbage jsut like everyone else

by mpstable on Aug 23, 2007 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
what the crap. How are we not hitting this guy? c'mon!

by gte619n on Aug 23, 2007 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Id really rather not make this a close game coming down the stretch, with Perez/Betancourt used yesterday.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
A 7 pitch inning - 7 effing pitches?
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Averaging less than 10 pitches per inning today!!! UGH!!!

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
They're all trying to jack one out on every pitch

by mikebrowns26 on Aug 23, 2007 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
This game is making me get real sleepy on the couch.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Me too, unfortunately, I'm in my office...
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
HE GONE?!?! WHAT? Did I hear that right?

by gte619n on Aug 23, 2007 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I was really supposed to be more productive today

by APV on Aug 23, 2007 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
So were the Indians hitters.
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Your sig line is all too prophetic today.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Wow, thats embarassing. We just let Magglio steal a base.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
XM runs a test of the Emergency Alert System mid inning - WTF
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
On a positive note, they're not lowering their average with RISP.

They haven't had any ...

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
RBI Baseball

http://www.virtualnes.com/play/play.php?id=AB13&s=8

Needs an up-to-date version of Java I think.

by mikebrowns26 on Aug 23, 2007 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Amid all this poor Tribe hitting, Jake is throwing a beaut today. 6IP, 77 pitches, 4 singles, 1BB, 2 HBP.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Of course, last guy who threw a beaut for us, we supported him with all of one hit.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
yeah, but I'd take that 1 HR over our 2 singles and 2 double play grounders today.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Oh, and after six complete innings,  we are only 6 batters over the minimum for both teams, all on the Tigers side.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Does anyone know how many pitches Nate has after Grady's strokeout?

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Thank you, it seemed as though he's flying through this game.

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Man does Grady tank on LH pitching this year or what ....

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I've decided I'm not going to complain about any of the individual Indians' hitters anymore because basically everyone sucks right now.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Detroit can still use Zumaya and Rodney.

We blew our wad with Rafy and Rafy yesterday

by mikebrowns26 on Aug 23, 2007 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I just want one guy to have a 12 pitch at-bat or something to prove that they're actually still alive out there.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
11... 11 batters in a row. BY NATE ROBERTSON... man this is frustrating.

by gte619n on Aug 23, 2007 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
There is always next inning.  Go get 'em boys!

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
why is it that we alway beat the good pitchers (i.e. santana, verlander ect), yet absolutly suck balls against crappy pitchers?
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
69 pitches through 7 innings. Considering he's faced the minimum of 21 guys, that means we've seen slightly over 3 pitches per plate appearance. Ugh.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Do you think the hitters realize a stat like that during the game?  Or do they ignore something like this and just "swing" away, because that's what they're doing right now.

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
7 innings ... 69 pitches ... 21 batters faced ... disgusting.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
"Just when you think your out [yesterday's offense], they pull you back in!"

- Costanza

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
a. it's a real possibility
b. afternoon games are always tough on hitters, so don't assume anything.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2007 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I'm fairly certain that last night's game was real. The offense was real, too.

by Ryan on Aug 23, 2007 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
our salvation today is that the tigers are making jake look almost as good as we are making robertson look.
our sleepwalking lineup had better not waste another brilliant start.  7ip on 84 pitches is pretty damn good

by mpstable on Aug 23, 2007 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
So ... how's everyone feeling about that Westbrook contract right about now?

by Jay on Aug 23, 2007 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Love it ... not enjoying the Hafner deal tho (I keeeed I keeed)

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I'm thinking we score a run this inning.  

by APV on Aug 23, 2007 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Does anyone say to this team, "Hey men, he's only thrown 69 pitches out there, make him work!" ???

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I think that's what all that veteran leadership aquired over the off season is supposed to do.
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Wouldn't hurt if the manager or hitting coach mentioned it, either.

by JulioBernazard on Aug 23, 2007 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Here I'll help ... 3.27 ERA in 12 starts since coming off the DL ... 1.71 over his last six starts.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2007 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
is there any excuse for swinging at the first pitch there?

by mpstable on Aug 23, 2007 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Do we even get another hit the rest of the game?  Can we REALLY only get 1 hit in the first game and 2 in the final?  That can't possibly happen, can it?

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
for some reason I thought Nate/Cy always throws well against us. But historically we actually hit him well.

13 GS, 2-4, 5.25 ERA, 73.2 IP, 89 H, 13 HR, 30 BB, 57 K.

Sigh

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Wait, Nate has to face a batter over the minimum - and we have a RISP.

What a concept.

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Yay Jhonny. Come on Gutz, take a lesson from Jhonny.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Try to get a DP now, Nate Robertson

by APV on Aug 23, 2007 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Thx Jhonny ... at least we won't finissh with minmum batters faced of 27 in this game :)

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Base hit....base hit....base hit....

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
this is just getting ridiculous
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
F!!!!
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Whee. We're so hopeless right now. I'm usually a positive guy, but this team is depressing me.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
These hitters have the suck meter just pegged.

by gte619n on Aug 23, 2007 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
He popped out to first base.  We can't even hit the ball out of the infield with men on base, or scoring position.

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
All tied up 4 total bases for each side.

Tigs have edge in baserunners though 7 to our 3 ... and they actually got one guy to 3rd.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Come on guys, think positive....we have another inning to get two outs and then get a base hit....then strike out or pop out!

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I just remembered the game was going on.  It doesn't look like I missed much.

by Julie on Aug 23, 2007 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Lucky for me I get to feel the cumulative frustration all at once!

by Julie on Aug 23, 2007 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Hello, Cleveland!  We're Cumulative Frustration!  We're here to rock you!
Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Aug 23, 2007 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Ask your doctor if new FrustrationEez might be right for you.  Otherwise, just drink.  A lot.

by Julie on Aug 23, 2007 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
well we extended Nate to 10 pitches an inning now (80 in 8). He should be good until the 11th or so.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Cleveland, where soccer is more exciting than watching our offense at the plate.

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
These guys make curling look like a barn burner
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
No way Jake holds off Detroit's big bats one more time

by mikebrowns26 on Aug 23, 2007 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Memo to Westbrook: don't forget there's a guy on 1B

by APV on Aug 23, 2007 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Dear 1100 AM, 850 AM and STO callers & hosts,

Remember the rule: ignore anything good Jhonny does and focus on his inability to do the little things. We've got to stay on message.

by Freneau on Aug 23, 2007 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I love the sacrifice to bring you the HOT BAT of Sean Casey.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
C'mon Casey, how about a nice little K/Popup here?

by gte619n on Aug 23, 2007 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Wedge is thinking to himself, "what is this small ball crap?  Never heard of it"

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
"The Indians do a very nice job of holding runners close."

What? We do?

by gte619n on Aug 23, 2007 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
are they pulling Jake? does he look tired? only 95 pitches so far.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Indians hitting = Pitiful, pathetic, lackluster, anemic, non existent.  

I can't think of any other adjectives.

by SpringTrainingFun on Aug 23, 2007 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Ordinarily, I would disagree as well, but Magglio has just been out of his mind lucky this season.

by gte619n on Aug 23, 2007 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I agree, I'd rather face Guillen here, but I see your point.

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I think it's right...you give yourself more out opportunities.
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Aug 23, 2007 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
well Mags and Guillen are their best two hitters, so pick your poison.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Jake the Snake wiggles out of another jam!
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Aug 23, 2007 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Wow.

Ok, we need to score a run here and give Westbrook a victory for his great outing.

by APV on Aug 23, 2007 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Yep and then it was very close at first!
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Aug 23, 2007 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
3 bullets dodged ... whew .....

If we can get a run or five, JoeBo only has to face the bottom of the order

Let's Go Tribe!!!

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Let's hope he doesn't walk the #9 hitter again if that's the case!

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
A lead off walk or base hit would be nice here.  But that's asking for too much right now.

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
you know what? F-everything. Guys, just close your eyes and swing hard, in case you hit it. I'm installing the new "AL Pitchers in Interleague" hitting strategy.

Yeah, that's how good they've looked.

by gte619n on Aug 23, 2007 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Wow, what was that, 2 pitches?

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Westbrook looked gassed last batter he faced.  Looks like he's done.

by SpringTrainingFun on Aug 23, 2007 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
what are you swinging at J-Mike .... geeez

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Let Datz pinch hit.  Anyone but these jagoffs.

by SpringTrainingFun on Aug 23, 2007 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I wonder if Grady will strike out here....hmmmmmm

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
NOPE!  It's a double with 2 outs!

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
0-2 is a great hitters count. Right Grady?

by gte619n on Aug 23, 2007 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Who's the bullpen catcher?  Who about him?
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
holy moly, grady with a 0-2 hit ... wow am flabbergasted

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
The good news - a runner on second.  The bad news - once again, two outs.
Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Aug 23, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Also, Zumaya's coming in to throw 3 99 mph fastballs right by Blake, so that'll be fun.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Please tell me that hustle counts for something

by APV on Aug 23, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Granderson was napping on that double.
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Aug 23, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Was that Barry Bonds throwing that ball in from CF ?

by SpringTrainingFun on Aug 23, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I'm joining the chorus as well: PH Lofton (if Robertson comes out of the game)

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 23, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
shhh somebody tell Wedge there are 2 outs so he doesn't bunt Blake.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Why would he with no outs anyways?  ;)

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
We could use Mike Rouse in this situation.  He couldn't do any worse.

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
don't worry, Casey's gonna dial it up

whatever that means

by Freneau on Aug 23, 2007 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Blake 1 for 1 off Zumaya with a HR.

How can you ignore numbers like that?

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
i like the idea of PH lofton for blake, putting drub at 2nd & batting for michaels, and moving gomez to 3rd.
but wedge <3 blake 4ever, so so much for that

by mpstable on Aug 23, 2007 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
you missed the numerals 1, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 in your post ;)

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Why is the count always 1-2 with Blake?

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
better than the consistent 0-2 Grady seems to do.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Wow I had flashbacks of early April there during that AB.

by Toxicadam on Aug 23, 2007 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
No, Blake was leaving runners on-base late in a close game.

by Toxicadam on Aug 23, 2007 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Why does this remind you only of early April?

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 23, 2007 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Man, this is painful.  It's like these guys just want to tease you with these doubles and 2 outs.  Forget leadoff doubles, that's not in their gameplan.

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
A leadoff double would almost be more of a tease, since I firmly believe the Tribe would fail to even get the runner over to third, much less score him.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
They have a gameplan?
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
And... crap.

Aside: My dad is an orthopedic surgeon who specializes in hands. He says that he's never had a patient be able to grip a coffee cup in three months, let alone dial up 100mph fastballs, with this injury. He thinks there's no way Zumaya is ever the same.

by gte619n on Aug 23, 2007 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
How many 1-0 games have we been involved with this season?  It has to be close to a record...

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Susssssshhh

I'm hoping this ends with us scoring about 7 in the top of the 10th.  Maybe JoBo can hold that lead.

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Come on, this isn't the Texas Rangers here.

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
We are 1-4 in 1-0 games this season so far.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Excuse me while I restart my pacemaker.

by maledicta on Aug 23, 2007 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
All of you who are just watching the gamecast who just saw that as "Foul" should consider yourselves lucky.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
The first one. Hammy was calling it like it was gone, but it hooked foul. I died a little bit inside.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I actually am.  Was it just foul of a home run, to left or right?

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Just another way to get ahead to a 0-1 count.

by Otto on Aug 23, 2007 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
What's depressing about this game is that no matter what we do this inning or next, they STILL have to bat AGAIN.  Ah, you gotta love the road games.

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
OK, got 'em right were we want them.

GIDP, PLEASE!!!!!!!

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
You do realize that we're not batting right now.

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Yes
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
This lack of hitting from the Tribe is just unacceptable.  I think they're suffering from baseball sphincteritis.

by SpringTrainingFun on Aug 23, 2007 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Excellent.  Just excellent.

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
No, No, No

for the love of God NO!

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
How the deuce do you walk Brandon Inge? I dissaprove.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
We should just call it a season if we're going to walk Brandon Babe Ruth Inge

by ASP on Aug 23, 2007 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
A nice GIDP from Santiago drops his average to .500 on the season ;)

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Perez is warming. Sucks that Wedge only trusts those two guys & Borowski right now.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
After last night, would you like to see Lewis right now?

He pitches like his team mates hit.

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
How the hell do you walk Inge here?  Or any time for that matter?  They guy leads the league in strikeouts!
Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Aug 23, 2007 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I only have the game on the radio, but if Betancourt's stuff isn't crisp (ostensibly because he's still a little tired from yesterday), what can you do?  

It's one of the perils that comes with a 3-deep bullpen, all of which was used yesterday.

by mplswahoo on Aug 23, 2007 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
He just walked Brandon Inge.

FEAR THE INGE

by gte619n on Aug 23, 2007 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I really don't want to face Granderson right now. I feel like that guy kills us.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Career 636 OPS against us, 602 OPS this year.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
It is entirely possible that I am feeling unreasonably negative towards this team for some odd reason right now.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
We need to win this game soon.  We're running out of Raffy's
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
It is quite unfortunate that we don't have an inexhaustible supply of Raffys.

by gte619n on Aug 23, 2007 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Hmm, I do like bringing in the Lefty for Granderson. He has some serious platoon split, and Betancourt seems a little off today.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Would you get to the count with a 3 at the end already!
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
3-2. Wahoo! :):):):)
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
errrrrrrr 2-3. :)
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Thank you!
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Go, Gilligan, go!

(Raffy the left bears a startling resemblance to Bob Denver.)

by Julie on Aug 23, 2007 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Where in the hell is 10-pitch Tom at, anyhow? 'I'd really prefer him over any one else, should we make it to extras.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
He hasn't pitched since 8/11. Somewhere there's a milk carton with his face on it.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Cop arrives at door, "Mrs. Mastney, we'd like to ask you a few questions about your son."
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I think he is developing tendinitis in the gluteouss maximus , so we can DL him and use Adam Miller as a bullpen arm come playoff time ... at least I hope so.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
What sucks is that I get the feeling that it doesn't matter whether or not we get out of this inning.  We're not going to score in the top half anyway, so they'll get us next inning.  Or the inning after that.  When you have no faith in your offense, these road extra-inning games are just unbearable.

by maledicta on Aug 23, 2007 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
That's kinda how I'm feeling right now. If it doesn't end now, it'll end soon enough.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
All it takes is a couple of good at bats, or perhaps even one pitch.  Let's remain focused here.

by mplswahoo on Aug 23, 2007 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Boo negativity man.  Hooray beer (and a Tribe victory).

by APV on Aug 23, 2007 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Wow Raffy!
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Aug 23, 2007 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Worst part so far, is we have barely put a dent in their bullpen going into their 4 game series with the Yankees.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
who cares, the Yankees will pound their starters and bullpen alike.

by ASP on Aug 23, 2007 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
is that a leadoff baserunner? what a concept.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
What happened?!?!? My MLB.tv went out?!!?

by gte619n on Aug 23, 2007 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I  HATE MLB.TV
The poster formerly known as JRam.

by Joe on Aug 23, 2007 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Hafner still getting respect. God knows why.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 23, 2007 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Barfield in to pinch run for Martinez, IBB to Hafner, first & second with nobody out.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I love the way gameday shows us the intentional balls.
Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Aug 23, 2007 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
man gamecast makes it look like Zumaya is wild pitching those four balls.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
yikes @ pinch running for Victor; Wedge will either look like a genius or an idiot, shortly.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Can Barf catch?
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
There's no way I don't go EI next year.
The poster formerly known as JRam.

by Joe on Aug 23, 2007 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Yeah, MLB.tv has been just flaky enough for me to not want to stick with it for another year.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Extra Innings package, which I think
only DirecTV has now, or maybe some of the cable companies have it now too, but as far as I know, I don't think Dish Network does.
Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Aug 23, 2007 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I have put way too much work into this game to have MLB.tv screw it up for me now!

by gte619n on Aug 23, 2007 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
What would I give for a 3-run shot right now? A lot.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I cant stand Wedge...

He pitches the best two pitchers we have and takes Vic out already!

Now, if we win and he doesnt need to use anyone else...then great!  But, if Jenson Lewis give up a winning hit or we need Vic up and he isnt in a couple innings...

by Tribe Alive on Aug 23, 2007 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Garko slices a foul down third - would have actually worked as a sacrifice
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Garko beats out a double play. 1st and 3rd 1 out

by ASP on Aug 23, 2007 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Garko legged out a DP.

1st and 3rd; 1 out

by Toxicadam on Aug 23, 2007 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
garko showin off them wheeels
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Weak GB to short.  Only got pronk.  Runners on corners 1 out
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
weak ground ball - bobbled in the field.

Let's not go crazy here

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
COME ON JHONNY. He is good a sac flies.

by Toxicadam on Aug 23, 2007 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Garko fielders choice, Barfield to 3rd, Hafner out at second. Jhonny up 1-0

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Very nice, Ryan. Well done.

I would really prefer a pinch hitter for JP here, though. Maybe im an idiot, but I see a lot of strikeouts for him in these spots.

God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I don't think anybody on our bench is more likely to hit than JP, though.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
My mlbtv is down too, but gameday audio is working fine.

by FranklinScott on Aug 23, 2007 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
BALL 4!
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Ok - Gutz a walk equals an RBI!
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Gameday has Zumaya VERY wild, at the moment. Any of those pitches close?
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
not realy...hes pretty wild
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Jhonny walks on 4 pitches. If Gutz doesn't take at least 2 I will cry.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
gutz has the batspeed to get the job done....
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Seriously, pinch running for Garko too? We better win this now or it will be ugly.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Why?  Why?  It was the first pitch!  He walked the last guy on four straight!  Why!?!?!

by maledicta on Aug 23, 2007 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Wedge does realize that if we don't win in the 10th, we continue playing, right?

by gte619n on Aug 23, 2007 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Zumaya's velocity is down right now. C'mon Franky.

by Ghostof WillHartley on Aug 23, 2007 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
if gutz strikes out do you squeeze?
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
why would you squeeze with 2 out? they just throw to first and the run doesn't count.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
anything but a ground ball please ....

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Lead off double, no outs?  

DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS, DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
FUCKIN HELL GUTZ!!!!!
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Like I said in the beginning of this thread ..Gootz strikes out a lot.

by Toxicadam on Aug 23, 2007 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
lofton better squeeze
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Sigh. I hope we see a PH for Michaels at least.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
My head is going to explode.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Still not, and i'll let you discern how incredibly hard that is.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
This is just pure comedy right now.  

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
MLB.TV is back
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Aug 23, 2007 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
KENNNNNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!! IIIIIII FUCKIN LOVE YOU!!!
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Gutz Ks swinging at the letters at 93 mph heater, Lofton pinch hitting for Michaels.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Lofton!!!!
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Aug 23, 2007 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
and the guy not pinch-run for saves the day . . ..

by mplswahoo on Aug 23, 2007 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
In play, run(s) !!!!!

I LOVE YOU KENNY YOU CAN BE MY MOVING BUDDY ANYTIME

God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGOMEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Lofton hit one up the middle that they snagged but couldn't get the out, run scores. Gomez lined one into center that scored two more.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Me too, trying to flick between the radio and tv feed. 3-0?

by new zealand tribe fan on Aug 23, 2007 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
WTF! Chris F'ing Gomez

by Ghostof WillHartley on Aug 23, 2007 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
3-0 TRibe! YES! kenny makes wedge look like a genius.....
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Completely shocked, but in total agreement. he was 1-3 on managerial moves, but the 3rd one played out nicely.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Have you seen any other Indians game this year?

by AdMan on Aug 23, 2007 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
GTF, why do you keep asking for a squeeze with the bases loaded AND 2 out? it doesn't make any sense.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
becaus this team has a history of chokin with RISP and id rather get the 1 run than risk not getting any (which has sadly been the case too often)...any other team and i wouldnt advocate such a bold move.
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
And I'll repeat that a squeeze with 2 outs makes no sense, since all they have to do is throw him out at first, the run wouldn't count!!!

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
i said squeeze before Gutz struck out....that was with 1 out
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
yeah i was kinda lost tho with kenny...i thought it was only 1 out...my bad srry...
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
You said lofton better squeeze. That was with 2 outs.
The poster formerly known as JRam.

by Joe on Aug 23, 2007 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
no, you also said "if Gutz strikes us, do we squeeze" ... check your responses.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
If they throw the runner out at first the run doesn't count.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 23, 2007 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
OMG CAN YOU BEEEEELIEVE IT!

by tborish on Aug 23, 2007 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Chris Gomez. True Indian.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
too busy to read or post much, but SOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP!

Go Tribe!

by Brick. on Aug 23, 2007 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Gomez singles to center, two runs in, Lofton now at 2nd. Seay relieves Zumaya. 3-0 Tribe

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Well, maybe my prediction of 7 this inning just may come true!
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
... or not.

Come on JoBo!

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Hey Joel.....go shave that hamster off of your face!

PS - send it to Gooden to replace his back of the head sole patch...I heard it is now missing!

Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Aug 23, 2007 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
i think we found our new utility infielder....
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Wow, what a gift. 2-0 in the non-smoking era.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Sorry...don't count it yet...church ain't over 'til they pass the collection plate a few more outs!

Good luck with your challenge!

Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Aug 23, 2007 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
think of it like this: the fewer you smoke, the more there are for Leyland to smoke.  whats the over/under on the bones he burned through in the top of the 10th?  im saying 4.5

by mpstable on Aug 23, 2007 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
C'MON JOBO.....lets get this one done
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
OK< so JoeBo gets to go thru Polanco, Casey, Mags, and probably Guillen .... I hope 3 runs is enough.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Tigers radio announcers say JoBo "is hittable."

No effing shit!

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
After the various pinch-running and hitting shenanigans last inning, Gomez is over to first, Cabrera is at 2B, Lofton's in LF, and Shoppach is catching.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
2 DOWN!
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I'm assuming Borowski is pitching, right? Gameday has Perez still in.

by Ryan on Aug 23, 2007 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
It's JoBo ... and it's working.
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
From the M-live Detroit forum, ganked from CPD forum:

58916. Wedge out managing Leyland 2 days in a row...
by ILTigerFan, 8/23/07 15:56 ET
the only game where Leyland made smart decisions was game one of this series.

Im speechless.

God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
If your team is playing like crap, you think your manager sucks. I think it happens to everyone -- they were calling for Torre's head earlier this year, though that's strangely quieted down now.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Tigers only shut out once this year.

Let's make that two...

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
3-0 JoBo stop teasing us.
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
hahahahahaha that is absolutely awesome.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
F U magglio, and your moot hits
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Does this guy ever make it easy!

Come on JoBo.

BTW, Wedge, note the small ball.

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Come on Borowski. Two outs, just get this shit over with.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
C'mon JoBo!
Back to being in 1st place in only one LGT Fantasy League. I have faith that'll soon regress back to the norm.

by mjmarble on Aug 23, 2007 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
ugggh .........first and third two outs, Thames up.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
WTF JOBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
No, no, no, no, no.....
Back to being in 1st place in only one LGT Fantasy League. I have faith that'll soon regress back to the norm.

by mjmarble on Aug 23, 2007 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
OH SHIT!!!!!
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
If you no do this for me now, I say **## you JoeBo.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Hey, what are all of you doing in my bad dream?

by maledicta on Aug 23, 2007 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
One run in .. man on 2nd and 3rd with Pudge up to bat.

by Toxicadam on Aug 23, 2007 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
2 outs, no one on?  WTF!!!!  Damnit JoBo - You've got to be frackin' kidding me!!!  Don't do this!
Back to being in 1st place in only one LGT Fantasy League. I have faith that'll soon regress back to the norm.

by mjmarble on Aug 23, 2007 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Walk Pudge and take your shot with Inge please.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
God bless America.

Joe, you suck

you suck  

you suck

by SpringTrainingFun on Aug 23, 2007 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
If they tie this up (or worse), I'm going to need to take a break from the Indians for a few days. Seriously, they're ripping my heart out over here.

by zempf on Aug 23, 2007 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Oh, this will be funny.

Irod ends the game 2 days in a row as the tyting run?

God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I-rods the winning run today
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
nope, Pudge would be the winning run today.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Just classic.

Thanks for the fun, as usual, Joebo.

God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
fkn hell JoBo.....
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
2-0 way to fall behind the hitter, JoBo
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!  Heart cannot take this......
Back to being in 1st place in only one LGT Fantasy League. I have faith that'll soon regress back to the norm.

by mjmarble on Aug 23, 2007 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Thank you Gutz.

JoBo, I always had faith in you.

(Not really, but who cares!)

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Ok we can breath again......damn that was another close one
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I don't call these Borowski moments entertainment. Nope, no siree.

by ploni on Aug 23, 2007 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Pudge makes the last, feeble out two games in a row.  I love baseball, I simply LOVE it.

by Fiddlesticks on Aug 23, 2007 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I need a drink!

by Ghostof WillHartley on Aug 23, 2007 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Wow...I'm exhausted.  And I've managed to get none of the work done that I was supposed to.  I think my blood pressure is elevated.  I'm a little stiff from sitting in a really awkward position.  And the Indians have a 2.5 game lead and I couldn't be happier.

by APV on Aug 23, 2007 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
and to think, we should have swept these turkeys .... oh well, I'll take 2 of 3 anytime on the road, especially from our main division rival.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Sweep KC!
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I hope this is the bookend to the two loses and subsequent suckiness since the big comeback game.

by JK in CBus on Aug 23, 2007 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I am extremely pleased.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
My consumption of adult beverages has gone WAY up while watching this team.

I'm going to have to lay off watching/listening to them for awhile.

Just crazy.

Crazy maaaaaaannnn, crazy.

by SpringTrainingFun on Aug 23, 2007 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
do we get to smile because we are playin 3 against KC and they play the Yanks?
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Only if we sweep KC!
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Aug 23, 2007 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Ill be disapointed if we dont!
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
now c'mon, KC is decent this year ... it's a road series, we take 2 of 3, that would be 6 of 9 on the road. I'll take it.

A sweep would be gravy.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I agree.  Let's not get greedy.
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Although I'd take them sweeping NYY if we sweep KC - it'd be the perfect scenario.
Back to being in 1st place in only one LGT Fantasy League. I have faith that'll soon regress back to the norm.

by mjmarble on Aug 23, 2007 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Wedge did make the correct calls this game - gotta give him that.

by SpringTrainingFun on Aug 23, 2007 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
word.
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Jake is officially back.

by mikebrowns26 on Aug 23, 2007 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I Love out Stud Pitching - CC, Carmona and Jake.  I'll put them up against anyone and like our odds if (big if) our offense gets going.
Back to being in 1st place in only one LGT Fantasy League. I have faith that'll soon regress back to the norm.

by mjmarble on Aug 23, 2007 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
* out = our
Back to being in 1st place in only one LGT Fantasy League. I have faith that'll soon regress back to the norm.

by mjmarble on Aug 23, 2007 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Second that. He was very, very impressive today.

by ploni on Aug 23, 2007 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Happy Birthday to me,
Happy Birthday to me.
Raffy's a winner,
and the Tribe takes two of three!
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Overall, I'm pretty pleased in our 5 games against DET and 3 against TB ... we went 5-3 .. and could have won 2 of those games very easily.

 

by Toxicadam on Aug 23, 2007 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
FYI, visiting the CPD forum always makes me super grateful for you guys. Thanks for being here.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
damn, JoeBo is making Wickman look like late-90s Rivera.  He got it "done" but, damn.  

by homelytourist on Aug 23, 2007 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Ahhhhhhhhhhh that feels good seeing Zumaya slam his glove :)
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 23, 2007 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I liked the part where Lelyand was visibly contemplating retirement

by homelytourist on Aug 23, 2007 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I like that we finally got a win for Perez.  It was about time he got one.  Although Jake deserved one too.
Back to being in 1st place in only one LGT Fantasy League. I have faith that'll soon regress back to the norm.

by mjmarble on Aug 23, 2007 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Just came home. Brilliant. Zumaya is a loser.
I heard that L.Carr is only going to dress 25 players this Sat........the rest can dress themselves!

by gahnki on Aug 23, 2007 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
"Brilliant" ain't exactly the work for it, but it does count as a "W"

Jake deserved some run support.

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Winning in the 10th is brilliant. If you think we would have done that a week ago, you're delusional.
I heard that L.Carr is only going to dress 25 players this Sat........the rest can dress themselves!

by gahnki on Aug 23, 2007 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Of course I'm delusional, I'm an Indians fan after all.

But no, I don't they would have done that a week ago.

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 23, 2007 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Pitching matchups for the KC series:

Friday:
Sabathia (14-6, 3.43) vs. Grienke (5-5, 4.40)
Saturday:
Laffey (1-1, 5.73) vs. Davies (5-10, 5.62)
Sunday:
Carmona (14-8, 3.11) vs. Meche (7-11, 3.88)

by APV on Aug 23, 2007 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
By the way mlb story has Wedge saying gutz will be getting more PT against RH pitching.

Thank goodness he finally seees it.

by talonk on Aug 23, 2007 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
If you think about it, that play he made against the wall ended up saving the game for us.

by Toxicadam on Aug 23, 2007 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Man, I was going to pick up Westbrook in my fantasy league a few starts ago. I just didn't believe he could keep this going.

by Toxicadam on Aug 23, 2007 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I was following the game on the bus, on my mobile phone and then had to jump on the tube when the bottom of the 10th came up....so happy to see JoeBo managed to close it up....GO Tribe!!

by Luis (Tribe Fan in London) on Aug 23, 2007 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Borowski amost jumped on the tube this afternoon as well, but he managed to pull it off.

by Brick. on Aug 23, 2007 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Someone needs to develop a season leverage index, identifying "big games" when they come up

by APV on Aug 23, 2007 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
sportsclubstats.com does a good job of this.  theyre one of the places that daily recalculates playoff percentages.  today was a huge game because if we won it would increase our chances somthing near 8%, and they would go down by a similar number if we lost.  i dont know what their methodology is, but i started going there more than coolstandings.com lately.  mostly bc they had more neat stuff to play with and more information, but also bc sportsclubstats had the indians with consistently highger playoff % than coolstandings did.  baseballprospectus has a good one that uses PECOTA on their site too.  i think that one helps us out bc im sure some of our guys right now are way below what PECOTA predicted for them

by mpstable on Aug 23, 2007 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Buster Olney on Sportscenter a few minutes ago talking about Westbrook today:  "The biggest problem with the Indians in the last two months has been the depth in their starting rotation."  

Really, Buster?  Have you not watched our offense these past two months?  What about Westbrook's numbers tells you that he's been our problem?

by maledicta on Aug 23, 2007 6:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I now believe the water in Bristol, Conn. is horribly tainted with high levels of lead and other heavy metals and that the longer people spend there the dumber they get.

by APV on Aug 23, 2007 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Oh no. I usually like Olney. But man, that's just bad.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 23, 2007 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Not enough comp access here to read all the threads, but man what a couple of nights.

Watched the first 6 innings of last night's game while buzzed in a Detroit Airport bar. Scoring 7 runs in an inning while tipsy in the opponent's airport had to rank right up there with the greatest twenty minutes I've spent in a while.

Hoping for a big weekend.

by supermarioelia on Aug 23, 2007 6:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
A-men. I'd really like to see some momentum. I want this team to believe it can win every game, like it did early this year; the cardinals showed us last year that its not the team with the best record, but rather the team that's the hottest in the playoffs that does it.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 23, 2007 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Here's another ESPN complaint.  In their video recap of the game (here) they show Perez striking out Granderson in the 9th to end the inning and the commentator says, "that was the only strikeout on the day for Perez".  Well, it was also the only batter he faced.  If they just looked at a boxscore and saw he had one K, presumably they also saw he only pitched 0.1 innings.  Obviously it's not a big deal, but it just strikes me as symptomatic of the total crapitude that currently is ESPN.

by APV on Aug 23, 2007 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
Joel Zumaya... welcome back. Two of three in Detroit is very solid. Still love this team.
"We've talked about it so many times," Wedge said, "but this is a special group."

by CarnegieAndOntario on Aug 23, 2007 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

ESPN doesn't know what's going on - they're
too worried about the Yankees and Red Sox, as usual.

Hello APV,

That definitely strikes me as bad journalism, especially for "professionals."  Heck, any of us can glance at the boxscore and figure out that Perez only faced one batter and struck him out.  With a bit more analysis, any of us could also figure out that that was a key moment in this ballgame, without even watching the game.  Yet, these "professionals" can't even comprehend that, even though they're paid to do that - unbelieveable!

I wish they would take off the Red Sox-Yankee blinders on their eyes - there are other teams in this race; and heck, the Yankees wouldn't even make the postseason if the playoffs started today.

As for the game today, it was nice to see Lofton and Gomez come up with those clutch hits, off Zumaya no less.  Gutierrez played great defense (though still has to keep working on that plate discipline.)  I'm glad to see Westbrook is rounding back into form and shut down a team that has given him fits over the last few years - well done!

As for Borowski - Ugh!  Yes, he got his league-leading 36th save (tied for the lead,) but why does he have to make it so close all the time - he was fortunate to get out of that and not have it blow up in his face like it did in TB on Sunday, and like that one, the trouble here also started with two outs.  At least here though, the snowball started off by JoBo giving up a hit to the league's highest BA hitter, Magglio Ordonez, and not by walking the #9, barely-hitting .200, Dioner Navarro like JoBo did on Sunday.  

Still though, I don't feel that comfortable with Borowski; if the Indians can't find an upgrade for Borowski for 2008, I sure hope they'd strongly consider going with Betancourt or Perez in the closer's role - at the very least, give them a chance to compete for it with Borowski (presuming his option gets picked up.)  I like their stuff much better than I do Borowski's.

Now, I hope the Indians can take at least two from KC, but they're NOT going to roll over for us, as they have been playing better of late (they are tied for the best record in the AL Central the last 10 games with us and the Twins at 5-5.)  We need to play well to win this series.  Meanwhile, the Yankees face the Tigers; I just hope we can build this division lead by a few more games by the time this weekend is over - hopefully, the pitching remains strong and the offense proves that Wednesday night's outburst was no fluke.

Just my 2 cents.  :-)

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Aug 23, 2007 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
i haven't been able to watch this series, but it's comforting to know that the Tigers' level of suck is higher than the Indians'.

in the spirit of soup, i added Mr. Zumaya to my fantasy team the day he came off the DL in hopes that my $#!7 luck would cause him to implode utterly, die under mysterious circumstances, or get re-injured like every other pitcher i've owned this season. i've also had Todd Jones all year, and it's worked out fairly well for the Tribe.

by jeremy @ Let's Go Tribe! on Aug 23, 2007 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
I am hoping that my yogurt consumption helped with the soup vibe, not sure if it counts. I nearly crashed when Kenny got his hit. A double fist pump while driving = bad idea.
I spoke the words but never gave a thought to what they all could mean.

by Brad D on Aug 23, 2007 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 23, 2007
More good vibes for the day...

Scott Lewis, who has had a good, but not sensational season at Akron so far is putting up his best outing of the season tonight (6IP,1R,1BB,8K).  Michael Aubrey, now that I've dismissed him, is 3-3 with not one, but two home runs.  Trevor Crowe is 3-4, bringing him to the cusp of a .700 OPS.  And Stephen Head, fresh off my thrashing is 3-3 with two doubles.

by APV on Aug 23, 2007 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

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