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A View From The Ground

I was lucky enough to spend this past weekend in glorious Winter Haven, Florida getting a first hand look at the Golden Horde that is the 2008 Cleveland Indians. It was, to say the least, a lot of fun. The weather was mostly good, with temperatures in the 70s; there was an unpleasant wind on Saturday but it was endured. I'll try to hit some highlights below:

Star-divide

Day 1:

I arrive at Orlando International Airport and meet my friend, another Indians fan. I observed that there is a hotel physically inside of the airport, right before security; Florida, so far, rules. The rental car is picked up, a Ford Focus, and it is awesome. All weekend we use less than a quarter of a tank of gas. The Focus is energy efficient, like Eric Wedge's emotions.

We drive directly to Chain Of Lakes ballpark and catch the Indians-Mets games. I convert directly into vacation mode, which means I look like I clean my body with newspaper and gutter water.


You got a daughter? No? What about some crystal meth?

Every pitcher that enters the game is horrendous, except for Masa and Tom Mastny. Travis kicks off his weekend of carnage with two doubles and my friend makes the first of dozens of comments regarding the size of Hafner's lower body.

Chain of Lakes Ballpark is an alright facility. If you sit in the right field bleachers, you're right on top of the Indians bullpen. You can walk down to the wall and hear the guys talk, all that, and there's even a little section that's devoted to letting fans stand there and try to get autographs.


Raffy R Warms

However, it's obvious that the town and the Tribe have split ways acrimoniously. There are elements of the actual park that aren't working that some claim the town simply doesn't want to pay to fix or operate. For instance, the scoreboard. It doesn't work in any significant way, the entire weekend. Additionally, there's this water tower with Wahoo's face on it but it clearly wasn't repainted this year. As a result, Wahoo's skin isn't red, it's gray, which seems nominally less offensive. So there's that.


I Wonder If the US Government Will Force This Water Tower To Move To Arizona?

Finally, locals readily volunteer opinions about the Indians simply bolting for more cash in the Southwest. Whenever they do this, I tell them that they'll have to rip my Winter Haven t-shirt off of me before I'll leave town. I want to retire a Winter Havenian, hell, I want to die one. They explain that there are plans to build a statue of me in front of town, and I'm pleased.

As I leave the park, I see John Kruk in the booth. He is eating Karl Ravech.

The night of Day 1, we go to the bar in our motel, the Clarion (formerly Holiday Inn) where we see: LUIS ISAAC! He is wearing a Kangol hat. I'm pretty timid about approaching celebrities but my friend gets a picture with him and asks him about communicating with Kobayashi. Isaac explains that it's hard and offers these bullet points:

-Luis knows 5 or so Japanese words, which include "head", "good", and "better than good." As Brick explains to me via text, Luis just needs to know the word "down" and he's all set to both instruct Masa and have a great night in Tokyo.

-Luis thinks the interpretor screws a lot of stuff up on account of what poor English Luis himself speaks. This doesn't seem like a good thing.

-Luis comes to this bar every night, despite the fact that it's inside the Clarion Motel and has no bathroom in it. You have to stumble into your room or the lobby of the motel.

I should also add that a number of Indians minor leaguers are staying in the Clarion. I see into the window of a conference room where there are about 50 of them watching a powerpoint presentation, in Spanish, about the dangers of performance enhancing drugs.

After we leave the Clarion bar, we go to a bar called "Billy Bones" which is going to become something of a home base for us because it is disgusting and awesome. It is located inside of the Howard Johnson. You have to go into the lobby to use the bathroom.

Day 2:

My friend is so hung over upon waking that she goes to CVS and buys, seriously, nine 1-liter bottles of water. She also buys a Propel, which she chugs in the parking lot. We drink maybe half the water over the rest of the course of the trip.

We go over and check out practice, which is notable only for my ability to identify minor leaguers. For the most part, everyone is standing around and looking bored. I see Dan Denham, some other players of that ilk. My friend gets a picture with Casey Blake, who is much, much taller than I thought.


Nobody Here Is In Scoring Position, Right? Ok, I'll Sign.

Before the game, there is a little autograph session with some of the real superstars of tomorrow. There is a line of perhaps 200 people waiting to get Jeremy Sowers and Jordan Brown to write their names on stuff. To each their own, I guess. I stand to the side of the line and look at the two. Sowers, who does indeed look cerebral, uses the signing pen deliberately and accurately but very slowly. Eventually, someone just takes the pen out of his hand and throws it over the fence. Then Fernando Cabrera comes in to sign and he signs a couple of autographs really impressively before someone finally just punches him the face.

Jordan Brown sort of has a gap in his teeth and is dangerously close to being red headed.

Some other friends come down from Tallahassee and meet us at the game. The Indians play well, particularly Ryan Garko. We sneak around the stadium and end up sitting right behind the Indians dugout. Nothing really cool happens, except the Kelly Shoppach takes rolling luggage with him when he leaves the dugout.


Yes, I Realize This Is A Rolling Bat Bag

My friend yells "GO COMMODORES" when Jensen Lewis comes in to pitch but Jensen is unfazed.


Raffy L, Ballin'

That night, we eat at Chili's because you get a coupon for free queso when you park at Chain of Lakes ballpark. The Chili's is stupendously terrible from the service to the food. To make up for it, we go and buy two Heineken pony kegs, and then go to Billy Bones whilst the kegs cool out in the mini fridge. We order every shot Billy Bones offers that involves "Monster" energy drink because we see a sign for it and get excited. The best one is called "The Bazooka Shot" and is Bacardi Limon and Monster, or something. The worst one is "The Meth Lab" and is sudafed and cleaning supplies, or something. Then we go back to the room, make up a drinking game involving Duke-UNC, watch Duke lose, and drink the pony kegs.

While wandering around the grounds of the Clarion I again see our minor leaguers watching a powerpoint but this one is supplemented by guest speaker Victor Martinez. He is talking to them about transitioning to America, it appears.

Day 3:

Eat breakfast in an IHOP which is located inside of a motel. Seriously.

Watch Nats warm up. Spot in uniforms:
Matt Whitney
Jason Dubois
Alex Escobar

Marte-Barfield back to back homeruns. Awesome.

When returning rental car, watch some couple make out in front of Payless.


Big Dog Gotta Eat

Overall, it was a really fun time but I see why the Indians are moving. Winter Haven is a classic Southern strip mall town; everything exists along one main highway and all of the food is bad chains in dated facilities. There appears to be very little notable about the place outside of the ballpark. It's the kind of town I get a kick out of but I can see why the Indians don't like spending a month there once a year. Plus, the 40-man apparently stays in Orlando because Winter Haven doesn't offer the food/housing options they need, so a move will add some convenience as well.

Anyways, this has obviously ran long. When I left, I flew directly to Philadelphia where I was injured for 3 years. I'm back in Chicago now. Go ahead, boo me if you want.


Not my shoes or pants. Gross.

Oh, and Brick? One line diary this, nounhole.

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Re: A View From The Ground
Fantastic.  To say I'm jealous would be an understatement.  

there was an unpleasant wind on Saturday but it was endured.

Laughed so hard spaghetti went up into my nose.  That hurts.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Mar 10, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

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You know, after reading this, I would be all for SBN giving us some cash so we can sponsor field correspondents to file reports from Spring Training, road games, World Series parades, etc.  Or maybe we should form a radical splinter blog and keep the millions of dollars in ad revenue this site generates for ourselves?

Point being, this was a ripping good read and has made me insanely jealous I didn't get a chance to do this this year.  Goodyear, here I come!

by NickFantana on Mar 10, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

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Stupendous!!!  The comment about Luis knowing enough to have a good time in Tokyo is sublime.  Thanks for the report from ST and the pics.  They bring some warmth to our miserable northern lives.

by Spidey on Mar 10, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

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All credit to Brick on that Tokyo joke. And he did that texting on his commute. That's talent, folks.

by afh4 on Mar 10, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I thought it was a great report, but it's not unanimous. I told my wife the "Tokyo" comment, and she said, "All men are crud." Ah, well. Morning isn't her favorite time of day.

by rden on Mar 11, 2008 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

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No, no, no we're not crud we're pigs goddamn it pigs!
"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Mar 11, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

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i don't know what your wife is talking about.

he needs to be able to ask people in tokyo how to "head" "down" to the "good" and "better than good" places to go.

by Brick. on Mar 12, 2008 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

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This is truly inspired, especially the photo captions and the line about Fernando Cabrera. Kudos.

At the risk of ruining the mood, what's with the reference to Dan Denham? He's not with us anymore, right? Or was that a joke I didn't get?

ken from alexandria

by ken from alexandria on Mar 10, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

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I hadn't realized Denham is out of the system, or at least was in Oakland last year. There was a guy with a "Denham" jersey practicing, so I don't know if he's there as a favor or if it's another Denham. I'll see if I have a pic.

by afh4 on Mar 10, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Hard to see, but I'm pretty sure that said "Denham." However, that's not the number he wore in the system, which was 35 apparently.  

You can probably do a save as and then a zoom. I have bigger pics on my computer, so I can see it a bit better.

by afh4 on Mar 10, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Upon immediate review, I think 35 was his number in the old prospect rankings I was looking at, not his jersey number.

by afh4 on Mar 10, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Is that the kid who took Clemens out? Or am I making this up?

by afh4 on Mar 10, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

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No, that would be John Drennen.

Dan Denham's brother is about as significant a prospect as Corey Smith's, or for that matter Jeremy Sowers' or J.D. Drew's.

by Jay on Mar 10, 2008 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Some Googling reveals that we also have a Jason Denham in the system, who I think is Dan's younger brother. Hooray for Google, without which I wouldn't be able to pretend to know so much.

by zempf on Mar 10, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Boo to slow Googling. I blame Philly beer week.

by zempf on Mar 10, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Thanks to all for explaining the Denham sighting. Now I need to delve into "Philly beer week."
ken from alexandria

by ken from alexandria on Mar 11, 2008 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

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http://phillybeerweek.org/ - highly recommended, though delving too much may be bad news.

by zempf on Mar 11, 2008 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Looks like I have some catching up to do.
ken from alexandria

by ken from alexandria on Mar 11, 2008 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Most excelent.

Anyone else notice that the outfield wall at Chain o' Lakes resembles the old Muni Stadium?  

Will the park in Az be modeled on Jacobs--I mean Progressive--Field?

I'm so going next year.  This sounds incredible.

Pony kegs rule.

by jhon on Mar 10, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

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Haha hilarious work. Although you definitely stole the thunder I was planning on bringing beginning tomorrow. Ah what the hell, I'll still do updates. Four ball games, a free Hootie and the Blowfish concert, a US Olympic soccer qualifier, final round at the Bay Hill on Sunday, and Cavs-Magic on Monday. This is why I'm single folks.

And I'm fairly certain that water tower wasn't painted last year either. I don't think the scoreboard worked well either.

by supermarioelia on Mar 10, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

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This is amazing. Seriously, if you need anyone to sponsor you for a few energy drink-enhanced shots (eew), let us know & we can start a LGT collection.

by zempf on Mar 10, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

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Awesome, thanks.

by mkwng @ Let's Go Tribe! on Mar 10, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

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Wow, that made my day. Funniest thing I've read in a long time. Special kudos for that Sowers/Cabrera bit; I nearly lost my s#%$.
Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Mar 10, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

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Absolutely, incredibly, brilliantly adverb adjective.

by Voltaire on Mar 10, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

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Great report, Andrew. I took my dad down there three years ago. Brought back some memories, including that hotel bar!

by TribeJay on Mar 10, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

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Thanks to everyone for reading and for the bump.

by afh4 on Mar 10, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

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I was down there for the exact same three games, with my old man.

That was him you heard laughing his HEAD off when Tyner missed that ball in CF by 30 feet Saturday. The best part was that J-Tynez looked like he had camped under it and was just waiting for it to nestle into his glove.

by JulioBernazard on Mar 10, 2008 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

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There's an experience I forgot to include.

For anyone who didn't see it, Tyner went back on a ball, waited for it, and it then landed aobut 15 feet to his left. Really brilliant stuff.

by afh4 on Mar 10, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I think you're being kind with the 15 foot estimate.

He would have been better of staying where he started!

by JulioBernazard on Mar 11, 2008 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

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I was at that game as well.

The thing about that play that was even funnier is that Tyner wasn't even going in the right direction.  He was heading towards right center and ball landed well behind him.  When the ball landed everyone around us just went "wtf ?"  

by SpringTrainingFun on Mar 11, 2008 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Great writing and great pictures. I have never been to ST but I really want to go now. For my money, the crystal meth one liner is even better than the night in tokyo one.
I swear, next year is it.

by Brad D on Mar 10, 2008 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

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Great stuff, Andrew.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008. The Official Red Bull of Let's Go Tribe Game Threads.

by Gradyforpresident on Mar 11, 2008 12:31 AM EDT reply actions  

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Very informative! I was in that same IHOP last week.  Me and 20 retirees.  Winter Haven is just a microcosm of all of Florida, the weather is superb in the winter, which makes it very tantalizing, but the place is incredibly depressing.  The strip malls, the chain restaurants, the general hokiness. If you've got a yen for waffles, did you get to a Waffle House?  I wanted a waffle in the worst way, but no place could make a waffle less appealing. I felt like a shower and change of clothes after eating there.  The cross currents of Florida really puzzle me.  Who can't love a whiff of nostalgia from the really charming Chain of Lakes Field in the twilight glow...real Field of Dreams stuff. But then you get back to the low voltage kitsch of everything else around there and you start getting depressed and angry that the locals could have screwed up paradise so much.  Read any John D. MacDonald novel, that's his undercurrent of Florida in a nutshell.

by Bogalusa Bomber on Mar 11, 2008 1:46 AM EDT reply actions  

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just excellent.

THIS is why i rode you so hard to write more than 300 characters.

by Brick. on Mar 11, 2008 1:53 AM EDT reply actions  

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Afh4-

The only important picture you didn't post:

by kes4f on Mar 11, 2008 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

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I almost forgive Casey for that incident in October when I see that beard. What a work of art.
I swear, next year is it.

by Brad D on Mar 11, 2008 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Great, great post.  I love the inside look at ST.
-Erik

by drerikbrady on Mar 11, 2008 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

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Spring training is heaven, nothing less.  Thanks for the pics and words Andrew.  The Sowers pen comment was the peak for me.

When I went to Winter Haven, they had all of these old guys in Tribe hats who handled the parking.  My wife is convinced that I'll end up as one of those.  I have no problem with that.  

Looking forward to the return AZ!

by dgcambridge on Mar 11, 2008 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

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See if Hoynes or Pluto or even that douche nozzle Livingston could write like this the Plain Dealer might have a future.  Kudos and tidings Andrew!!
"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Mar 11, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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I think I can stand Terry Pluto, possibly because his output is thankfully low, but God-Verb do I want to wipe my noun with the junk that Hoynes puts out.  It's like they cross-bred a bobble-head doll with the Incredible Drinking Bird and placed it in front of a keyboard.

Print is Dead!  Long live the Intertubes!

Sportsman of the year, 1991

by BostonWahoo on Mar 12, 2008 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

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"It's like they cross-bred a bobble-head doll..."

I saw a couple getting autographs from Hammy on his bobblehead - he signed the doll and the box itself.  

Who in the name of Bruce Drennan buys a Hammy bobblehead ?  And then gets it autographed ?   Geez Louise ...

by SpringTrainingFun on Mar 13, 2008 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

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It was free with a purchase over 70 dollars! I got one. It talks.

by afh4 on Mar 13, 2008 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Am I the first one to rip on you for the My Old Aunt's sunglasses?  Which are awesome, by the way.

by nickjs21 on Mar 11, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

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I have a rule that all sunglasses must be purchased from drug stores and be awesome.

by afh4 on Mar 12, 2008 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Drug stores?  Sounds a little high-end for me...I'm more of a gas station sunglass man.

by APV on Mar 12, 2008 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Dollar store sunglasses are, by definition, cheaper and more awesome than either drug store or gas station sunglasses.

by NickFantana on Mar 12, 2008 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I'm breaking in a pair of red dollar store sunglasses right now.

by nickjs21 on Mar 12, 2008 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Aviators?  If so, I've got one of those myself...

by APV on Mar 12, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I have about 3 pairs of aviators, but no, these are not.

Aviators are choice.

by nickjs21 on Mar 12, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

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You know they're true dollar glasses if they need broken in.

by NickFantana on Mar 12, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

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"The Focus is energy efficient, like Eric Wedge's emotions."

I stared at this line for at least 5 seconds trying to figure out how you must have felt when that idea hit you like a Jeremy Sowers' curveball.  Sweet.

by Thommy on Mar 12, 2008 12:53 AM EDT reply actions  

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in winterhaven now.  had two hotdogs and a coors light for breakfast and watched the phils-braves in the rain.  looks like a rainy night game at chain-o-lakes.

by emil minty on Mar 14, 2008 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

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I just got done running through Paul Hoyne's spring traing blog - it took all of 45 seconds - and came to the conclusion that the LGT representatives - Mario and Andrew particularly - are much more informative and entertaining than any other writer's reports provided by any of the mass media.  I know this is no revelation to most here, but I find it profoundly sad.  
"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Mar 16, 2008 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

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A bit late to the party, but that was seriously one of the most entertaining posts all off-season, so thanks for that.

by Pronk33 on Mar 17, 2008 12:25 AM EDT reply actions  

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