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The 2009 Outfield
I know we've had a few threads discussing what we think the next year's team will look like (welcome back Casey Blake!), but I wanted to take a closer look at the outfield situation by first looking at who we have under contract or control for 2009, who will likely be available through free agency, and of course who is down in AAA (and a certain player who was "brained" in China recently).
The first premise that needs to be cleared up is whether or not we are going to head into next season with the hopes of contending or with the expectations of simply rebuilding for 2010. I recall some sentiment that may have filtered down from Shapiro that alot of this is going to be decided by the abilities of Victor Martinez and Travis Hafner to come back from their injuries without too much damage to their ability to hit. I'm going to go ahead and assume that both of these players come back to the point that Shapiro thinks we can contend in 2009.
So on with the current set of outfielders. The given is center field and I will not waste anymore than this sentence on this position as he is the best hitter on our club this year. Now here are the other outfielders currently on our 25-man roster with links to there THT stat pages, and followed by their (age), OPS+,split OPS+ (for consideration in platooning) and contract status:
Shin-Shoo Choo RF/LF (25), 115 OPS+, 121 sOPS+ vs. RHP. '09: Pre-Arb
David Dellucci LF (34), 93 OPS+, 100 sOPS+ vs. RHP. '09:$4M
Franklin Gutierrez RF/CF/LF (25), 70 OPS+, 92 sOPS+ vs. LHP. '09: Pre-Arb
Ben Francisco LF/RF(26), 109 OPS+, 102 sOPS+ vs LHP. '09: Pre-Arb
A few points regarding defense. Gutierrez is regarded as the best defensive outfielder of the bunch and that includes Sizemore. Choo's arm is good enough if not above avg. for right field and same may be said for Gutierrez. Dellucci and Francisco are adequate defense players for LF but neither has a strong enough arm to be a regular in RF (although that doesn't mean they couldn't play there). Dellucci is going to be in the last year of his three year deal, and the money owed isn't too much in the grand scheme of things. He is now no better in a platoon than Michaels was (i.e a .776 OPS vs. RHP compared to Michaels' .800 OPS vs LHP in 2007) and that simply isn't acceptable for a contending team. Gutierrez looks like he isn't going to cut it as far as filling any prominent role in the outfield next season. Depending on roster construction he may be able to stick around as a non-platooning reserve outfielder spelling Sizemore in center (although Sizemore plays alot, I mean he rarely misses a game) and providing late inning defensive help. Gutierrez has had one month where he's shown any sign of being able to stick in the majors, and that's been August (.936 OPS). He will need to have a similar September to improve his projections for next season. Out of this group I think we can smush out a workable platoon for right field with Choo being the primary player and either Francisco or Gutierrez filling in against left-handed pitchers. Dellucci will need to be traded away although I consider that he is less valuable than Michaels was so its not going to be easy. This leaves a hole in LF.
There's two ways I can see this going at this point. Francisco can man LF at a competent level both defensively and offensively (expect an OPS+ around 100 to 110, although don't rule out a sophomore slump), but I don't see us competing with mediocre production out of both our corner outfield positions (considering the questions around the corner infield and DH position as well) So we would need to upgrade the RF position with a right-handed bat. So this brings me to the upcoming free agent class for outfielder:
LF: Pat Burrell (31); Moises Alou (41); Cliff Floyd (35) - Team option worth $3M for ‘09, or a $250K buyout; Raul Ibanez (35); Garret Anderson (35) - Team option worth $14M for ‘09, or a $3M buyout; Brad Wilkerson (30); Manny Ramirez (35); Adam Dunn (28)
RF: Rocco Baldelli (26); Milton Bradley (29); Brian Giles (36) - Team option worth $9M for ‘09, or a $3M buyout; Juan Rivera (29); Jacque Jones (32); Wily Mo Pena (25) - Team option worth $5M or Player option worth $2M for ‘09; Vlad Guerrero (31) - Option worth $15M in ‘09, or a $3M buyout; Bobby Abreu (33)
Parring this down a bit by taking out the team options that I think will be picked up and Alou is likely to retire, leaves us with:
Burrell, Ibanez, Wilkerson, Ramirez (maybe), Dunn, Baldelli, Bradley, Giles, Rivera, Jones, Pena (maybe), Abreu.
Non of these guys look very strong defensively. A guy like Abreu may resign with NY since NY can keep him if they want (you know, that having all the money thing). The typical Shapiro (i.e. small market) guys look to be Rivera, Pena, and maybe Ibanez. Giles is a weird guy. He seems to love living in SD, but since they placed him on waivers and were willing to deal him to BOS and are rebuilding, keeping him doesn't make much sense other than appeasing the fan base. If he is a FA I see him sticking on the West Coast with slight chance that he considers a return to CLE for a year or two and retiring. Its hard to see where Dunn goes (unless Ariz offers him an extension) because I'm not sure he is valued by some teams in the league that see his low avg., plodding pace, and high strike-outs (I can tell you that he's not signing with Toronto this offseason) and miss out on the other true outcomes (BBs and HRs). But probably going to cash in (as his former teammate Bronson Arroyo has alleged).
Finally, the minor leagues. I simply don't see anyone at Buffalo currently that would be any better than any of the players already currently on the 25-man roster. Maybe a way to old for his level (28 yr old) Todd Linden RF (.870 OPS) could fill in in case of an injury on the big league club, but is that really any better than what Ben Francisco did three years younger at AAA last season, and he's barely adequate. So that leaves Laporta down in AA, but by all accounts he will likely start the year off in Buffalo and put in time at AAA. Continued success in Buffalo in the early months could lead to a call up mid-season and could answer our needs that way, but if this happens I am assuming that the Indians are out of contention by this point (having not solved the outfield corner positions in the offseason).
So in summation, I find it hard to believe Shapiro will not sign a free agent outfielder or trade for an outfielder before the 2009 season starts if he plans on contending for the division. I'd like to see what others think, including whether or not you think that they would consider jumping Laporta up to the bigs early in 2009 or even giving him a shot to win a spot coming out of spring training. Also, what do you think about Gutierrez, Choo, and Francisco, do any of these guys stick going into next season?
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Future Shock - Carlos Santana
A quick little write up on the catching prospect we received in the Blake trade who has been tearing it up since the trade:
"He's been even better since the trade, slugging .367/.441/.600 in 15 games for High-A Kinston in a much tougher offensive environment."
Its pay content, but since the Santana blurb is the lead on the page you can read all about him even if you don't have a BP account. What is cut off is a little info about Beau Mills, in short he's impressing scouts with his bat, but his defense even at first remains problematic due to poor footwork. But hey still learning a new position, right?....
21 days ago
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Eastern League All-Star Game: Five Minutes with Wes Hodges
A short interview by David Laurila from Baseball Prospectus, with Akron's Wes Hodges who's .315/.389/.474 line has got the 23 year old AA thirdbaseman on the path towards being one of the better prospects for the Indians.
about 1 month ago
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Breaking down the draft: Picks 27-35
Alex Eisenberg over at THT has been breaking down the recent draft and has finally reached the Indians pick, Lonnie Chisenhall. There's a nice comparison of Lonnie's swing development, and few encouraging assessments (i.e. he has improved his ability to wait back in the zone before swinging).
about 1 month ago
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BP top 100 update part 1....
Its pay material so the link won't give you much. But Miller drops a bit but remains in the top 60, while Hodges is bumped up a bit just within the top 80, and noted as a good bet by scouts to hit .300 in the bigs.
2 months ago
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Martinez to miss 6-8 weeks.
So if anything Shoppach will get a nice chance to show what he can do with regular playing time. And hopefully it includes more running around the bases with a Babe Ruth homerun trot with a that goofy smile on his face.
2 months ago
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Reining in Expectations for Marte
I think the majority here would support the idea that Andy Marte should be receiving more plate appearances than he has thus far and some would argue should be given the third base job outright (with Blake moving around in a super utility role since all of the planets have aligned and Bizarro Blake is knocking in RISP likes its going out of style). Some have dissented and stated that Marte doesn't deserve the shot because of not showing anything that would be considered "forcing his way into the lineup" this year or in his time in the Indians organization in general. I don't want to get into this argument again as I think it was covered well in this article Jay wrote back on May 14th of this year. What I want to talk about is what we should expect from Marte assuming he will be given more plate appearances going forward (although this isn't necessarily going to happen with Wedge in charge and the offense struggling as it has).
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Victor/Victoria
Over at some yahoo fantasy baseball article , Brad Evans surmises that Victor Martinez has stopped swinging for the fences and has simply settled on being a singles hitter. He backs it up with some convincing evidence, and what all of us have seen with our own eyes as well. Victor's LD% is sitting at 25.3% for the season, which is roughly 5% higher than his avg. for the last three seasons, and substantially above league avg. Its nice and all that Vic has learned how to put good wood on the ball as often, as line drives result in base hits more often than any other type of batted ball, but this has come with a cost in power.
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Watching Cleveland Indians Baseball: Like giving yourself testicular torsion
What a lineup today, heck what a lineup for the season thus far! In the past few days, we've managed to assert ourselves as the worst hitting team in the AL and the third worst hitting team in both leagues in regards to team EQA (.243). The juggernaut that is the Kansas City Royals, have finally pasted us up (.244).
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Choo starting Rehab
It says that Choo's rehab assignment can last up to 20 days, so assuming the max twenty, we're looking at a June 1st decision timeline on where Choo fits in. Looking at Franklin Gutierrez's split vs. RHP so far (.615 OPS), Choo's bat can fit nicely in RF spelling Gutierrez on days against tough righties. Based on the limited use of some bullpen arms this year, I wonder if the Indians will go with an eleven man staff, and carry the extra fielder giving them more time to decide what to do with Marte and Choo.
3 months ago
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